Incoming players this january (2018/19)

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:18 am

Bit too late for that one, LTL.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:19 am

jdrobbo wrote:We have to buy Premier League ready players, but also need to think about the future and getting the average age of the squad down.

Josh Maja at Sunderland is 20, come through their youth team, is very strong and has scored quite a decent return of goals. They want him to sign a new contract this window, as his contract is up in the summer. If he doesn’t sign, this would be a great investment for the future.

Cheeky bid for Maja and loan him back...

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:31 am

funnliy enough they only want 1.5 million for him - no idea if he is any good though !

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:10 am

There would be a tribunal fee set for him if we didn't meet their asking price so I would be surprised if they only wanted £1.5million given Danny Ings' fee and the escalation of "values" in the leagues these days

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:41 am

DCWat wrote:Bit too late for that one, LTL.

Oops, off target by a few of hours.

Note to self: Check player situation before posting to avoid looking like a banana.

£7m was an okay price for him, providing that Stoke switch things around and start playing him to best effect.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:47 am

Vegas Claret wrote:funnliy enough they only want 1.5 million for him - no idea if he is any good though !

Given that’s only a bit more than we paid for Legzdins that’s a no brainer if we think he has anything about him.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:57 am

Vegas Claret wrote:funnliy enough they only want 1.5 million for him - no idea if he is any good though !

His contract situation means they are in real danger of losing him for next to nothing in a tribunal.

If he goes to a foreign club they get next to nothing.

If he goes to a foreign club, that is owned by the same person that owns an English club, they get next to nothing and the English club can transfer him between clubs at a later date. Its a sneaky, under handed and entirely reprehensible thing to do, but it has happened before.

George Hirst is an example of a player that could possinbly fall into that category.

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/spor ... st-1708563" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I posted about him in the Non League thread, with some video snippets.

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... 50#p906050" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:02 am

We have 2 very good young strikers in the U23 squad already

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:05 am

Can see us picking up disgruntled ex-Premier league players from the likes of Stoke and Swansea

If not then someone like Adam Reach at Wednesday?

Would love us to go `left field` and pick up a gem from Europe.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:13 am

ClaretAL wrote:We have 2 very good young strikers in the U23 squad already

Three would provide us with a healthy amount of competition

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:10 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:If we are looking at right full backs in this window then Ryan Woods might be a good shout. He is obviously a defensive midfielder, which we could use, but I think he could make a good right back after a period of adjustment. I can't see us picking him up on the cheap though.

As already pointed out, he signed for Stoke permanently the other day.

Not sure why you would target a championship central midfielder to come and play Premier League football at right back.....

Didn't you also suggest Tammy Abraham might come as a reserve winger too??

You do realise this isn't a game of Championship Manager don't you?

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:31 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:As already pointed out, he signed for Stoke permanently the other day.

Not sure why you would target a championship central midfielder to come and play Premier League football at right back.....

Didn't you also suggest Tammy Abraham might come as a reserve winger too??

You do realise this isn't a game of Championship Manager don't you?

RE: Tammy Abraham

I did indeed, based on the fact that we already have a full compliment of strikers. Most of them with proven Premier League credentials. Had we paid a generous fee to bring him in then his best chance of securing any first team game time would have been on the right wing.

In the hypothetical scenario of us signing him who would you have dropped to give him a first team slot?

RE: Ryan Woods

"He is obviously a defensive midfielder, which we could use"

The right back potential was a secondary consideration, because we already have Bardsley and Lowton. After today we can also add Tarks to those two.

RE: Jakubs Tash

If you are going to take a pop at me, pick your moment, set your feet, put your body behind the punch and be accurate.

A poorly timed glancing blow achieves nothing and serves little purpose.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:50 pm

I would say that we only have 3 out and out strikers

So yes we could accommodate Tammy Abraham who would offer us something different from the other 3 strikers

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:01 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:RE: Tammy Abraham

I did indeed, based on the fact that we already have a full compliment of strikers. Most of them with proven Premier League credentials. Had we paid a generous fee to bring him in then his best chance of securing any first team game time would have been on the right wing.

In the hypothetical scenario of us signing him who would you have dropped to give him a first team slot?

RE: Ryan Woods

"He is obviously a defensive midfielder, which we could use"

The right back potential was a secondary consideration, because we already have Bardsley and Lowton. After today we can also add Tarks to those two.

RE: Jakubs Tash

If you are going to take a pop at me, pick your moment, set your feet, put your body behind the punch and be accurate.

A poorly timed glancing blow achieves nothing and serves little purpose.

Haha!! Crikey, don't take it so personally....

If we need a winger then we should sign a winger. If we need a right back then I would like us to sign a right back. Crazy suggestions, I know, but I prefer round pegs in round holes and all that.

If you're going to suggest signings at least try and make them credible.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:28 pm

Tarkowski had a good game today. Easily the best player on the pitch. He's no full back though. Fortunately the opposition were as shot shy as us. Playing him at full back against better teams than them would be absolute desperation on our part.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:06 pm

I think we should go all out and sign Shelvey from Newcastle very underated footballer.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:09 pm

Steve1956 wrote:I think we should go all out and sign Shelvey from Newcastle very underated footballer.

I rate him. He's very effective if you play most of your football down the wings, because he's very good at swinging the ball out and spreading play - with JBG and McNeil, I think he'd be a very good addition - however, I just can't see us getting a player like him. There would be other clubs ahead of us if he was to move.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:13 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I rate him. He's very effective if you play most of your football down the wings, because he's very good at swinging the ball out and spreading play - with JBG and McNeil, I think he'd be a very good addition - however, I just can't see us getting a player like him. There would be other clubs ahead of us if he was to move.

A cheeky bid wouldn't go amiss

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:15 pm

Steve1956 wrote:I think we should go all out and sign Shelvey from Newcastle very underated footballer.

Personally I doubt he's a Dyche type of player.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:19 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Personally I doubt he's a Dyche type of player.

I don't get that Bill,he's good enough to give us a whole new way of playing Dyche is always on about evolving,I think we should sign players like Shelvey and try and step up...I think the Dyche Type and Dyche Fit have been made up by someone on this forum and they don't really exist at the club

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:22 pm

I would give a big thumbs up for Shelvey. But he ain't going to go to Burnley. He would be far too much in demand. Very much wishful thinking.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:23 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I would give a big thumbs up for Shelvey. But he ain't going to go to Burnley. He would be far too much in demand. Very much wishful thinking.

Same as Abraham then Frank....Forum Bullshit eh?.....Back to Rodriguez then!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:24 pm

Steve1956 wrote:I don't get that Bill,he's good enough to give us a whole new way of playing Dyche is always on about evolving,I think we should sign players like Shelvey and try and step up...I think the Dyche Type and Dyche Fit have been made up by someone on this forum and they don't really exist at the club

Very possibly, but he does tend to walk/jog in games.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:27 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Very possibly, but he does tend to walk/jog in games.

I love how he sprays 35 yard passes out to the wingers,he dosent need to run,and I once saw him go face to face with Alec Ferguson which was a joy to behold,Shelvey won that one,great player great character

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:37 pm

Steve1956 wrote:I love how he sprays 35 yard passes out to the wingers,he dosent need to run,and I once saw him go face to face with Alec Ferguson which was a joy to behold,Shelvey won that one,great player great character

As an upgrade on Stephen Defour I could see him in our squad, but SD seems to prefer the higher work-rates of the likes of Cork and Westwood at present.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:55 pm

Shelvey would be an immense signing, and I feel he would not think twice about leaving Newcastle. If we got him he could be as influential as Joey B when we got promoted. His passing is absolutely first class and he would compliment Cork and Westwood. Gives us an added dimension and would send out a great signal to our fans and anyone else we were trying to get to join our club

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:33 pm

I’d be surprised if Dyche were to go after Shelvey. Great player on his day, but too inconsistent and has a tendency to switch off from defensive duties.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:39 pm

Chances of signing Shelvey are zero for several reasons but not least because of his likely salary.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:43 pm

taio wrote:Chances of signing Shelvey are zero for several reasons but not least because of his likely salary.

Never say never Taio.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:52 pm

Raffa said we are well a head of Newcastle in terms of wages

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:05 pm

Longside4evr wrote:Raffa said we are well a head of Newcastle in terms of wages

Shelvey £80k a week.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:31 pm

taio wrote:Shelvey £80k a week.

Did he tell you that personally...where do people pluck other people's salariesfrom ?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:37 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Did he tell you that personally...where do people pluck other people's salariesfrom ?

No. It should be pretty obvious. To back up my view I googled it. Plenty of consistent reports.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:34 am

taio wrote:No. It should be pretty obvious. To back up my view I googled it. Plenty of consistent reports.

Ah right,just as I thought then you havnt a clue how much Shelvey earns.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:45 am

Steve1956 wrote:Ah right,just as I thought then you havnt a clue how much Shelvey earns.

In the absence of knowing for certain, I think multiple reports coupled with a bit of common sense is a decent guide. Are you suggesting he's paid at a level Burnley would consider paying and not in the region of £70k - £80k a week?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:49 am

He's certainly on a lot more than we pay, and though his range of passing is brilliant I don't see how SD will be able to get a tune out of him on a consistent basis when Rafa hasn't managed to.

GrahamBranchsPerm · Post by **GrahamBranchsPerm** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:55 am

His gross income is c£400k a month. I know this as looked at a business case for insuring players against injury up until 40. The premium was driven by wage, age, length of cover, past injuries etc.

So I do think he's out of our range, and that Rafa is incorrect regarding wages. Agree he would be a great signing BTW.

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jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:20 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:08 pm
We have to buy Premier League ready players, but also need to think about the future and getting the average age of the squad down.

Josh Maja at Sunderland is 20, come through their youth team, is very strong and has scored quite a decent return of goals. They want him to sign a new contract this window, as his contract is up in the summer. If he doesn’t sign, this would be a great investment for the future.

Just over two years on...

Starting to look a real player now! Excellent for Fulham tonight.

Two goals v Everton

bennitor · Post by **bennitor** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:47 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:20 pm
Just over two years on...

Starting to look a real player now! Excellent for Fulham tonight.

Two goals v Everton

For some reason I remembered this post from two years ago. When I went onto BBC sport and saw who had scored I immediately thought that I bet jdrobbo will have gone and found the old post and bumped it. Thanks for randomly proving me right!

DomBFC1882 · Post by **DomBFC1882** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:49 pm

The most hilarious thing about this thread is it says SD wanted a winger which 2 years on we still haven't got

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:53 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:49 pm
The most hilarious thing about this thread is it says SD wanted a winger which 2 years on we still haven't got

Don’t worry. We’ll sign him in about 5 years time.

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:53 pm

2 in 17 before tonight

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:55 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:53 pm
Don’t worry. We’ll sign him in about 5 years time.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:57 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:20 pm
Just over two years on...

Starting to look a real player now! Excellent for Fulham tonight.

Two goals v Everton

LTL also tipped Tete, now starting RB for Fulham.

Fair play to him.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:00 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:57 pm
LTL also tipped Tete, now starting RB for Fulham.

Fair play to him.

Scouting team sign him on

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:17 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:00 pm
Scouting team sign him on

Makes you wonder how one of our fans seems able to do it. Fulham signed Tete for €3m in summer!

Garnerssoap · Post by **Garnerssoap** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:04 am

Just think if we’d splashed out on josh and tete we too could be in the bottom 3.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:53 am

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... os-santos/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... n-23494202

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:02 am

Garnerssoap wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:04 am
Just think if we’d splashed out on josh and tete we too could be in the bottom 3.

steve1264b · Post by **steve1264b** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:39 am

Is there anyone who thinks Lennon will be in charge of Celtics recruitment for next season?

Maja got 11 in 48 in a ligue that lower down is not a high standard.

As for signing a new goalie, if he is better than we have got I've no problem with it, makes sense to me.