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Glucosamine

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:26 am

Does anyone on here use it and do you think it helps? I’ve used for years and I’m not sure it does anything for my knees. I’m at the end of a batch and I don’t know if I’ll buy anymore.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:30 am

Does quite a bit for those who sell lots of it.
Rheumatol Int. 2012 Oct; 32(10): 2959–2967. This refers to a daily dose of 1.5g as being of benefit
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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Carport » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:35 am

I started taking it about a month ago for knackered knees. No improvement yet but I was told it can take up to two months. Got Glucosmaine and Chondroitin max strength from Holland and Barrett upon my daughters mother in laws recommendation. She’s pain free after taking it for a few months for her knees. I’ve been taking one a day.
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Re: Glucosamine

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:48 am

Not quite the same but our lab has been on it for a few years and he's still going approaching 15.

He used to be on a thing called Devils claw which definitely had a positive effect on him, only stopped as he became particular about eating if he knew his food had been soaked in it. It is available for humans and horses. Might be worth looking into.
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Re: Glucosamine

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:48 pm

Afternoon Pearcey. You've come to the right place. I've had a form of Rheumatoid Arthritis (very harsh with onset - in intensive care - but mild after the correct (strong) treatment (including chemotherapy) - to the degree of playing football again, going to the gym etc) since 1999 and I've read pretty much everything there is to read and tried 50+ supplements.

Glucosamine did nothing for the symptoms. Does it help with the joints and cartilage? I guess you would need scans to prove/disprove that, but I found no improvement in pain symptoms.

Now, do you have stiffness in your knees? If you do, Fish Oil from Holland & Barrett 100% helps for that. Give it a few days and you'll find that goes away.

For pain, try organic carrot juice. It's not exactly cheap, and you don't have too much due to the (natural) sugar content, but a small glass every morning helped for me. It also has the added benefit of improving skin, energy, mood etc.

That's my 2 pence worth. Things such as Ginger & Turmeric I've not found helped either. There's a drug called Etoricoxib (also known as Arcoxia) that I've used now and again which helps, but it's strong - equiv to about 1200mg Ibuprofen but is a Cox-2 so works differently.

There's only a handful of supplements I've tried which I can categorically say helps. With one (non-knee pain related), even the blood results shows it helps, yet it's not done enough medical trials in order for docs to prescribe it. But Fish Oil is worth a try. I wouldn't bother with the Glucosamine.
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Re: Glucosamine

Post by beddie » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:26 pm

I've been taking it for over 20 years. Had one knee replacement. Does it do any good ? I don't know, I've been taking it for that long I'm worried if I stop I'll seize up. I asked my surgeon for his views, he said tests have proved there have been benefits to some people. I get mine from "Natures Best", they do a good selection at decent prices.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by dougcollins » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:34 pm

I've taken it for 20+ years. Obviously, I don't know how bad I would be if I hadn't taken it, but I believe it has kept me from stronger anti-arthritic drugs. I suffer from Osteo, apparently it is not so effective for Rheumatoid.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by piston broke » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:37 pm

On a pre-retirement course we were all advised To go on it. I’m not a fan of drugs but gave it a go. It lasted 2 weeks, I came out spotty and binned them. 15 years later still as active as ever and no problem with any joints.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:40 pm

piston broke wrote:On a pre-retirement course we were all advised To go on it. I’m not a fan of drugs but gave it a go. It lasted 2 weeks, I came out spotty and binned them. 15 years later still as active as ever and no problem with any joints.
That's because you keep well oiled.
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Re: Glucosamine

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:43 pm

It’s a good product but you really need to take 1500mg daily and a ratio of perhaps 400mg chondrotin with it . It won’t do much for rheumatoid though unless it’s with MSM and some sort of natural antimflammatory ,its more an oesteo product . Getting people to take it long enough and the proper dose is always the tough thing. It aids the cushioning and fluid around the cartilage . I’ve took it in liquid form for years and it’s kept my knees tip top ( I’m 52 and still practice Muay Thai and play football ) I stopped for about 3 months last yr and could feel slight stiffness and took longer to recover etc . Rugby league players have been taking it for years . It’s no wonder product but it’s safe and relatively cheap ( what price your health ? )

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:45 pm

Not as much as a proper anti-inflammatory diet will with a lot of omega 3s and little sugar and other foods that trigger auto-immune responses...

May help a little though

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:08 pm

I am blessed with psoriatic arthritis, similar to rheumatoid arthritis. I tried glucosamine and found it useless, all it did was give me stomach pains.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:00 pm

Thanks all. I knew I’d get some good info on here. I’ve been taking it for years but my knees have been poor for 20 years. I’m only 45 now! Will be having my 4th op soon.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:44 pm

Cod liver oil and Glucosamine will certainly help joints, mine stop clicking when I take them within a day or two (I'm 37, not a fossil).

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by holdyourfire » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:50 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:I am blessed with psoriatic arthritis, similar to rheumatoid arthritis. I tried glucosamine and found it useless, all it did was give me stomach pains.
Hi CM i also suffer with P/A just wondering what you take to manage it.I am on sulfasalozine 4 tablets a day.Sometimes have to take Arcoxia if my joints are giving me jip?

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Post by bfcjg » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:14 pm

Two and a half years ago I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my knee and was just prescribed strong painkillers/anti inflamatories. After two months I thought sod this and went on various websites including arthritis research. Since then i have taken 5 loxin a supplement proven to stop the degeneration of cartilage and MSN glucosamine and chrondroitin daily the last three being anti inflammatory and the components of cartilage which will regenerate but extremely slowly. In the last two and a bit years I haven't taken any of my prescribed painkillers and only occasionally have needed the occasional ibuprofen if I have twisted my knee whilst walking etc. An exercise bike is a real aid as well as it helps lubricate the knee.
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Researchers also indicate within two years or so cartilage injections will be a real alternative to joint replacement operations.
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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Stalbansclaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:18 pm

Some inspirational comments there bfcjg ...I have also been diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my knees..the result of playing football for about 50 years ....and have started taking the same Holland and Barrett glucosamine and chondroitin tablets referred to a couple of times in this thread. I also cycle so seems I am on the right path based on your experience. Good stuff.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:52 pm

Had secondary osteoarthritis of knees for just over a year (or that's when it showed up on x-ray).

No known benefits to taking Glucosamine.

Better off Swimming or Cycling and losing weight if you have excess weight.

Avoid running or any heavy impact exercise.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:55 pm

holdyourfire wrote:Hi CM i also suffer with P/A just wondering what you take to manage it.I am on sulfasalozine 4 tablets a day.Sometimes have to take Arcoxia if my joints are giving me jip?
How many of us on here have PsA.

Now on etanercept, so PsA is great but the years of excess synovial fluid have done the damage.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:04 pm

I am a keen cyclist so that is a bonus.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by claretfern » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:05 pm

Maybe an obvious point in that because glucosamine is is a type of sugar, avoid if you're a diabetic.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by IanMcL » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:31 pm

piston broke wrote:On a pre-retirement course we were all advised To go on it. I’m not a fan of drugs but gave it a go. It lasted 2 weeks, I came out spotty and binned them. 15 years later still as active as ever and no problem with any joints.
Hope the spots cleared up ok! :D

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Post by basil6345789 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:53 pm

Synvisc injections (knee) are highly recommended. They helped me. NHS used to provide them but no more. Cost about £150.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by piston broke » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:04 pm

IanMcL wrote:Hope the spots cleared up ok! :D
Thankfully yes but at there worst I joined them up and made Bertie Bee.
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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Dougall » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:43 am

AlargeClaret wrote:It’s a good product but you really need to take 1500mg daily and a ratio of perhaps 400mg chondrotin with it . It won’t do much for rheumatoid though unless it’s with MSM and some sort of natural antimflammatory ,its more an oesteo product . Getting people to take it long enough and the proper dose is always the tough thing. It aids the cushioning and fluid around the cartilage . I’ve took it in liquid form for years and it’s kept my knees tip top ( I’m 52 and still practice Muay Thai and play football ) I stopped for about 3 months last yr and could feel slight stiffness and took longer to recover etc . Rugby league players have been taking it for years . It’s no wonder product but it’s safe and relatively cheap ( what price your health ? )
I used to take it in liquid form but I can't get the stuff any more (used to buy it from Boots!)
Having assessed the effects as critically as I could, I'm convinced that it worked well for me (recommended it to a pal and he said it did nothing for him - but he opted for low dose capsules rather than the 1500mg combined with chondroitin that my own research led me to!)
Where do you buy yours from, ALarge?

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:22 pm

I buy from iherb ( huge US online site) I use the 1lt NOW brand , though I get a few other bits too and the shipping is pretty cheap ( DHL 2-3 days usually )
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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:52 pm

holdyourfire wrote:Hi CM i also suffer with P/A just wondering what you take to manage it.I am on sulfasalozine 4 tablets a day.Sometimes have to take Arcoxia if my joints are giving me jip?
Hi hyf

I used to take sulfasalidine but have been on methotrexate and this has been brilliant. Still get the occasional stiffness and pains but the PsA is now well under control. Also try to keep active (cycling, walking, gardening...). Good luck,

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:03 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:Hi hyf

I used to take sulfasalidine but have been on methotrexate and this has been brilliant. Still get the occasional stiffness and pains but the PsA is now well under control. Also try to keep active (cycling, walking, gardening...). Good luck,
I'm on Sulfasalazine too. I also take 27.5mg of Methotrexate per week. A high dose, but it does the trick.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by holdyourfire » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:27 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'm on Sulfasalazine too. I also take 27.5mg of Methotrexate per week. A high dose, but it does the trick.
Hi ff my rheumatologist has never offered me methotrexate, does it work alongside sulf,if so maybe i should be asking her for this,because its giving me jip at the moment.(winter)

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Post by basil6345789 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:48 pm

Methotrexate is seriously strong - so much so that you have to have monthly blood tests to monitor internal organs.

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Post by basil6345789 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:30 pm

Methotrexate is seriously strong - so much so that you have to have monthly blood tests to monitor internal organs.

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by IanMcL » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:58 pm

piston broke wrote:Thankfully yes but at there worst I joined them up and made Bertie Bee.
Like being a youth again!

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Re: Glucosamine

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:09 pm

Methotrexate worked well for me for years but at a fairly low dose. Stopped working about 5 years ago.

Since then was on leflunomide (caused peripheral neuropathy)
Tacrolimus (worked OK in fits and starts)
Now on Etanercept which is great, but costs the NHS a lot of money. So a big thank you to all you tax payers.

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