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Hendrick goal

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:38 pm

Why hasn't Jeff been credited with the first goal against Fulham? His shot was on target before it was deflected.

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:40 pm

Going in the top corner according to MOTD. I didn't mention it as there were about 17 threads about us winning without a shot on target. So I guess the question to be asked is, should that be included in the shots on target?

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:43 pm

Yes, and if it was a shot on target the person that led to a deflected goal, it's Jeffs!

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:01 pm

Probably because its more of a story for the media if we won with 2 own goals and no shots on target. I genuinely think that. No other reason why thats an own goal and shane longs isnt. Again Longs was a story because his last four goals have been under four different manager.

Its ******** if thats not Hendricks goal.
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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by wickdkewlclaret » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:37 pm

Think it was going post and in and the post isn’t classed as on target.

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by thatdberight » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:40 pm

Hard to tell where it was going before Sessegnon deflected it. Conspiracy theorists can sit down; it was the first of the two (so unless "the media" knew there'd be another...) and didn't our ground announcer say it was an o g.?

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:43 pm

thatdberight wrote:Hard to tell where it was going before Sessegnon deflected it.
It isn't. MOTD showed exactly where it was going, using technology. I think that's the point of the thread. We know where it was going.

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by TVC15 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:45 pm

Aye cos i’m sure our announcer had a perfect view from
120 yards through driving rain

It was on target according to the angle showed on MOTD. They all agreed it was going in....not sure why it has not been credited to Hendrick unless they had a different angle none of us have seen.
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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by turfytopper » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:46 pm

I am surprised Kane hasnt claimed it.
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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:49 pm

thatdberight wrote:Hard to tell where it was going before Sessegnon deflected it. Conspiracy theorists can sit down; it was the first of the two (so unless "the media" knew there'd be another...) and didn't our ground announcer say it was an o g.?
Sessegnon? It was Bryan lol

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:50 pm

wickdkewlclaret wrote:Think it was going post and in and the post isn’t classed as on target.
No but and in is!

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:50 pm

turfytopper wrote:I am surprised Kane hasnt claimed it.
:lol:

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by bfcmartin » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:51 pm

The goal that Long scored for Southampton against Leicester was never going in until Schmeichel palmed it into his own net I can't believe it hasn't been put down as an own goal

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by thatdberight » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:52 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Going in the top corner according to MOTD.
Then they must have been on crack. I'll catch it on catch up and see what they thought - I haven't seen their analysis.

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by thatdberight » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:54 pm

Bosscat wrote:Sessegnon? It was Bryan lol
Doesn't it come off the sole of Sessegnon's boot first, just after Jeff hits it? If not, I take it back, it's possible to say where it would have ended up and I think it's on the post / just inside the post - probably the latter given the spin which I assumed was from the first, small deflection as I didn't see how Jeff's contact imparted it.
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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by TVC15 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:55 pm

Bosscat wrote:Sessegnon? It was Bryan lol
Easy mistake to mix them up to be fair !

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:57 pm

I thought it was going slightly wide. Not convinced by people saying it was swerving in. If Jeff wants the goal he might have to pay for Hawk eye to prove it was going in.

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:58 pm

thatdberight wrote:Hard to tell where it was going before Sessegnon deflected it. Conspiracy theorists can sit down; it was the first of the two (so unless "the media" knew there'd be another...) and didn't our ground announcer say it was an o g.?
Conspiracy theorists would have said that there was another shooter!
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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by claretgimmer » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:18 pm

The dubious goals panel seem quick enough to take goals off players so why are they not as quick to credit JH with what appears to be his goal.
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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by thatdberight » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:38 pm

Bosscat wrote:Sessegnon? It was Bryan lol
TVC15 wrote:Easy mistake to mix them up to be fair !
I could well be wrong but at least I have some company if so:
https://www.skysports.com/football/burn ... ham/390968" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"A driven cross from Jeff Hendrick ricocheted off Ryan Sessegnon before deflecting off the unfortunate Bryan"

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by bfcmik » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:06 pm

Clarets Player has the goal cam which seems to show the shot was not going in but that Tarky would have been ideally placed to tap it in if it had not been deflected

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:45 pm

TVC15 wrote:Easy mistake to mix them up to be fair !
Like Cairney and Cisse

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:52 pm

Thanks for all your contributions.

I know it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things (Whatever that means) but I still feel that it was Jeff's goal.
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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by Dazzler » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:58 pm

bfcmik wrote:Tarky would have been ideally placed to tap it in if it had not been deflected
Nah,he'd have blazed it over the bar :D

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Post by colne-claret » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:05 pm

Dazzler wrote:Nah,he'd have blazed it over the bar :D
Give over. One of top scorers this season :lol:

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:30 am

Slightly off topic but what brought about Jeff's "purple patch" on Saturday?

For 20-30 minutes in the first half, he could hardly put a foot wrong.

Was the Fulham defence that bad? Did his team-mates make space for him? or Did Jeff just seize the game by the throat?

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by claretspice » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:43 am

RalphCoatesComb wrote:Slightly off topic but what brought about Jeff's "purple patch" on Saturday?

For 20-30 minutes in the first half, he could hardly put a foot wrong.

Was the Fulham defence that bad? Did his team-mates make space for him? or Did Jeff just seize the game by the throat?
Firstly, he's a good player. A couple of things worked out well for him early on and he looked to get confidence from it.

Secondly, I really think the role he played on Saturday suited him. He's at his best driving onto the ball from deeper - and both goals in their own way were examples of this. When he's played as our most advanced of a midfield 3, he's not always had chance to do that because he's had his back to goal more than suits him, and when he's playing in the middle of a 2 he's a bit more constrained by the need to keep shape. But our wide midfielders have always had licence to come inside and drive through the middle and that seemed to unshackle him a bit on Saturday.

The final ingredient was that Fulham were woeful and offered up space both on the outside of the centre backs and between the lines, but even allowing for that I think he's given Dyche a real option in that wide role as a sort of "Arfield plus" option, and with that and the emergence of McNeil, I wonder if a wide player is still Dyche's main priority in the window.
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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:53 am

CoolClaret wrote:Conspiracy theorists would have said that there was another shooter!
Do we have a grassy knoll in t'Turf?

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by piston broke » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:58 am

RalphCoatesComb wrote:Slightly off topic but what brought about Jeff's "purple patch" on Saturday?

For 20-30 minutes in the first half, he could hardly put a foot wrong.

Was the Fulham defence that bad? Did his team-mates make space for him? or Did Jeff just seize the game by the throat?
I’ve shouted for him to be tried on the right many a time on here. He’s played there successfully for Ireland. He mentioned it himself after the game. I was pleased to see he wasn’t chalk on heels though. Some of his runs down the middle were excellent, including the build up to the winner.
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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by houseboy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:00 am

wickdkewlclaret wrote:Think it was going post and in and the post isn’t classed as on target.
Sorry mate but if it goes in (without being touched by another player) logic says it's on target. How can it be anything else.

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by Spijed » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:54 am

Strange how goals are awarded.

Shane Long's shot/cross was going wide until Schmeichel palms it in.
Harry Kane lies through his teeth ( trying to get the golden boot) and they award a goal to him when he was nowhere near touching it.

Jeff Hendrick has a shot on goal, but isn't allowed to claim it!

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:10 am

It clearly should be Hendrick’s goal, but he has fallen foul to Sky thirst for a different news item.
1. A win without a shot on target.
2. Two own goals.
Much more interesting for Sky’s constant spouting of statistics and more fodder for their ‘experts’ to analyse.

Sorry Jeff - you’ll have to do better than that !!

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:14 am

wickdkewlclaret wrote:Think it was going post and in and the post isn’t classed as on target.
If it hits the post and goes in, it's on target. If it hits the underside of the crossbar and goes in, it's on target. So basically, it depends on what part of the post/crossbar it hits. If it's at an angle that would take the ball into the goal, it's on target. But regardless, it was missing the post and going directly into the top corner.

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by thatdberight » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:25 am

FactualFrank wrote:If it hits the post and goes in, it's on target. If it hits the underside of the crossbar and goes in, it's on target. So basically, it depends on what part of the post/crossbar it hits. If it's at an angle that would take the ball into the goal, it's on target. But regardless, it was missing the post and going directly into the top corner.
How on earth would that shot ever go in the top corner?

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by tim_noone » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:40 am

If the goals were maybe a foot high?

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:03 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:It clearly should be Hendrick’s goal, but he has fallen foul to Sky thirst for a different news item.
1. A win without a shot on target.
2. Two own goals.
Much more interesting for Sky’s constant spouting of statistics and more fodder for their ‘experts’ to analyse.

Sorry Jeff - you’ll have to do better than that !!
spot on

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:06 pm

thatdberight wrote:How on earth would that shot ever go in the top corner?
Only going off what MOTD showed. It would have to be on Earth though :)

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Re: Hendrick goal

Post by dougcollins » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:27 pm

You've just followed their extrapolated arrow to the nth degree.

A bit of common shows it heading for side netting just inside the post, somewhere near ground level.

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