Should we loan out Pope

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:43 pm

Great pity about Nick's injury at the start of the season otherwise he would have certainly been our first choice keeper
However, given the upturn in results, coinciding with Heaton back between the posts, it's highly unlikely he will get many chances for the remainder of this season
For me, he is our future No 1, but would like to see him get plenty of game time now to prove fitness and maintain form of last year
Other Prem clubs a definite no, but it seems Leeds are still wanting another keeper with Forster (Southampton) being the latest one linked so surely they could be interested
Offering Vydra (who they wanted to sign this summer) as part of a loan package would free up some monies and we could go for Okazaki as our 4th front man
I get SD's comments about wanting all three at the club but fear Pope would get unsettled if not getting any games (it's only months since he was part of a World Cup squad)
His value would go down if not playing but go up if starting games - even if with Leeds

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:44 pm

"Should we loan out Pope"

No. He's currently our second choice keeper.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:46 pm

No. Loan out Joe Hart

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:47 pm

Didn't see him on the bench Sat

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:48 pm

Not sure teams would want Hart as much as Pope

Just want to see him getting game time

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:49 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Didn't see him on the bench Sat

Morale management.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:53 pm

Have I read that correctly? You’re suggesting offering Vydra and Pope on loan to Leeds to bring in Okazaki?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:56 pm

Think Pope going out on loan and playing somewhere would be a good idea. Hart can stay as our number 2, then we can reassess things in the summer.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:59 pm

Loan Pope out and keep Hart? You are ferkin bonkers!!

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:02 pm

Pope has had a serious injury and needs some game time, he's not going to get that sitting on our bench is he?

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:06 pm

We should sell Pope

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:09 pm

Id sell Pope as im sure we could get a real fee off a team like Spurs.

Heaton has proved he's back to his best but has displayed a Beast like attitude to being #2. In contrast Hart isnt quite the keeper he was he but has shown what a great guy he is and what a real positive influence within the group he can be and is a more than adequate back up

If we cant get a good deal for Pope this Window then put him in the shop window by loaning him out and cash in big time in the summer

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:10 pm

Loan Hart out to a MLS Club from March to October, and reassess in late Summer. If Pope, Hart or Tom are to leave, we'd get better money in the Summer window and Lindergard is more than acceptable as a No.2 for a few months, even in case of injury ....

Sell McNeil for £46m in the summer to fund the Cricket Field stand redevelopment .... job done !!

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:18 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Id sell Pope as im sure we could get a real fee off a team like Spurs.

Heaton has proved he's back to his best but has displayed a Beast like attitude to being #2. In contrast Hart isnt quite the keeper he was he but has shown what a great guy he is and what a real positive influence within the group he can be and is a more than adequate back up

If we cant get a good deal for Pope this Window then put him in the shop window by loaning him out and cash in big time in the summer

“ has shown what a great guy he is and what a positive influence in the group he can be” ... not a quote you’d generally hear after the name Joe Hart. I genuinely have no idea if Heaton has been “ beastly “ as a no 2 but I can tell you that I know for a stonewall fact JH has an unbelievable ego and has to be the most unpopular teammate ( prior to Burnley ) you could ever imagine, his arrogance at Man City beggared belief,not to say he’s not had a great career though and still is a top notch keeper ... but “ great guy”....

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:19 pm

RCC is right.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:19 pm

If we could loan with a recall yes.

If we could sell for £25m plus no. Sell him.

Failing that keep him for next August and see what pans out.

He was fantastic last season. But it may well be a one off!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:20 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:“ has shown what a great guy he is and what a positive influence in the group he can be” ... not a quote you’d generally hear after the name Joe Hart. I genuinely have no idea if Heaton has been “ beastly “ as a no 2 but I can tell you that I know for a stonewall fact JH has an unbelievable ego and has to be the most unpopular teammate ( prior to Burnley ) you could ever imagine, his arrogance at Man City beggared belief,not to say he’s not had a great career though and still is a top notch keeper ... but “ great guy”....

You obviously didnt see him post match saturday.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:23 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:If we could loan with a recall yes.

If we could sell for £25m plus no. Sell him.

Failing that keep him for next August and see what pans out.

He was fantastic last season. But it may well be a one off!

You'd sell him for £25 mil? In today's market that would be an absolute steal for the buying club. £50 million, maybe.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:25 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:You obviously didnt see him post match saturday.

Seen countless interviews with City players and the young England lads who all sing Harts praises for what a great influence he was on them. Just the other month John Stones was interviewed on Soccer AM and talked about how Hart takes the young players under his wing at City and England and that he still keeps a note Hart wrote for him when he left the club and that he was massive in helping him settle down after his tricky start

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:29 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:You obviously didnt see him post match saturday.

And you obviously didn’t read the post , I can only quote “ pre Burnley “ perhaps he’s a real team player as he’s found his level I’m not sure

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:38 pm

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Devils_Advocate wrote:Seen countless interviews with City players and the young England lads who all sing Harts praises for what a great influence he was on them. Just the other month John Stones was interviewed on Soccer AM and talked about how Hart takes the young players under his wing at City and England and that he still keeps a note Hart wrote for him when he left the club and that he was massive in helping him settle down after his tricky start

Big Joe has plenty of cheerleaders who will paint a wonderful “ uncle joe”picture ( not quite the Lewis Hamilton fan boy level but still ) and after a long career I’m sure there’s plenty of good stuff as well . People tore him apart in here on ability which was utter bullsh1te but I’m referring simply to his ego at Man City, I’d love to tell a couple of stories but it’s not the time or place . Here he is in Greece though with my son so it’s not all bad

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:39 pm

Loan out Hart keep Pope to further recover and keep Tom on his toes.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:39 pm

Loan out Hart keep Pope to further recover and keep Tom on his toes.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:40 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
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Big Joe has plenty of cheerleaders who will paint a wonderful “ uncle joe”picture ( not quite the Lewis Hamilton fan boy level but still ) and after a long career I’m sure there’s plenty of good stuff as well . People tore him apart in here on ability which was utter bullsh1te but I’m referring simply to his ego at Man City, I’d love to tell a couple of stories but it’s not the time or place . Here he is in Greece though with my son so it’s not all bad

Fair enough but at least we both agree that we should sell Pope which is what the threads really about

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:51 pm

Joe Hart - such a c**t that City named a training ground after him.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:54 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Great pity about Nick's injury at the start of the season otherwise he would have certainly been our first choice keeper
However, given the upturn in results, coinciding with Heaton back between the posts, it's highly unlikely he will get many chances for the remainder of this season
For me, he is our future No 1, but would like to see him get plenty of game time now to prove fitness and maintain form of last year
Other Prem clubs a definite no, but it seems Leeds are still wanting another keeper with Forster (Southampton) being the latest one linked so surely they could be interested
Offering Vydra (who they wanted to sign this summer) as part of a loan package would free up some monies and we could go for Okazaki as our 4th front man
I get SD's comments about wanting all three at the club but fear Pope would get unsettled if not getting any games (it's only months since he was part of a World Cup squad)
His value would go down if not playing but go up if starting games - even if with Leeds

Go & play knock a door run or summat if you're bored.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:55 pm

I’m sure the club want to know for certain that Pope is really fit and completely recovered from that nasty injury before they consider loaning him out.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:54 pm

FactualFrank wrote:You'd sell him for £25 mil? In today's market that would be an absolute steal for the buying club. £50 million, maybe.

25m for a 27 year old with 100 appearences to his name. Most league 2 and below is a steal.?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:06 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:And you obviously didn’t read the post , I can only quote “ pre Burnley “ perhaps he’s a real team player as he’s found his level I’m not sure

But he was, to quote - a great signing?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:12 pm

Pope will get his chance again this season.

We can ease him back in in our Europa League, League Cup and FA cup gam...oh, wait.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:13 pm

Heaton has earner the right to the shirt, based on circumstances. He has been outstanding. However, for me, Nick Pope is the club’s best keeper. We need him going forward and his time will come, but as I say: for now, the shirt quite rightly is the skip’s!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:19 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:25m for a 27 year old with 100 appearences to his name. Most league 2 and below is a steal.?

He's 26.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:32 pm

FactualFrank wrote:He's 26.

Bargain.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:51 pm

Game time? Like he got today for an example? Or perhaps he should go to somewhere like Swindon because that would be such a test?

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:57 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:But he was, to quote - a great signing?

He was indeed it showed intent by bring in a top keeper when our own two were injured / not quite there .Id still sell Pope though as he’s an asset though not sure his price is near it’s peak after 1 ( albeit very good ) season

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:05 am

jrgbfc wrote:Pope has had a serious injury and needs some game time, he's not going to get that sitting on our bench is he?

No he gets it playing in the under23's like yesterday and the cup games....

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:31 pm

My best mate suggested loaning Pope our on the Turf last weekend. Most didn’t agree but with a clause to bring him back straight away if needed as mentioned above- it could work.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:35 pm

100 percent. A good deal for all.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:08 pm

Keep him hes our number 2 keeper pushing Heaton all the way. The other keepers need to fight it out for whos number 3 off current form.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:11 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:My best mate suggested loaning Pope our on the Turf last weekend. Most didn’t agree but with a clause to bring him back straight away if needed as mentioned above- it could work.

You can't recall players from loans between transfer windows.