Advice re 4K TV and live football

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Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:19 pm

Don't know whether this topic has been covered but I am new to 4K TV and have found that the current yellow/ red football that is in use has a "ghosted" appearance with some views. Does not happen with close-up images of the action.

Anyone else experienced this ?

If so, is there a TV setting that will stop it happening.

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by Claret Till I Die » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:25 pm

Is it the same make as the 4k watch ?
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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:17 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:Don't know whether this topic has been covered but I am new to 4K TV and have found that the current yellow/ red football that is in use has a "ghosted" appearance with some views. Does not happen with close-up images of the action.

Anyone else experienced this ?

If so, is there a TV setting that will stop it happening.

Genuine issue! Happens all the time on UHD, it’s really annoying

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by Ric_C » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:30 pm

Try going into display settings and change the levels for smooth motion or similar and try and switch between off and max

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:56 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:Genuine issue! Happens all the time on UHD, it’s really annoying
Thanks... I thought I was investing in something that would enhance watching games. Like you say, really annoying!

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:57 pm

Ric_C wrote:Try going into display settings and change the levels for smooth motion or similar and try and switch between off and max
Thanks. I'll try that

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by piston broke » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:59 pm

Ric_C wrote:Try going into display settings and change the levels for smooth motion or similar and try and switch between off and max
Read an article about this. Modern tvs are setup for movies and not sport. Strangely the different makes all have their own names for it and different methods of correcting it.

OP. Google motion smoothing and your model tv.
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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:01 pm

piston broke wrote:Read an article about this. Modern tvs are setup for movies and not sport. Strangely the different makes all have their own names for it and different methods of correcting it.
Thanks. Do you know what the issue is called??

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by piston broke » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:02 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:Thanks. Do you know what the issue is called??
I’ve just editted previous post, RCC.
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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by criminalclaret » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:12 am

Make sure you turn it off when your watching normal TV shows.

It produces the "soap opera" mode which I can not stand, actually makes me feel a bit sick.


See article below - dismiss the Tom Cruise bit but it's a good example of the process

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:59 am

Perhaps this issue, and especially how to deal with it, should be made common knowledge.

Some folk will simply put up with it when it does spoil the enjoyment of a game.

Perhaps I live "too sheltered" an existence! ;)

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by criminalclaret » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:51 am

Not to go to technical into this, 4K is still very early infancy. Mid compressed 4K still has a huge data rate which is too hard to distribute over means of a packed terrestrial or satellite transponder. Hence the packages BT and Sky offer it's actually over fibre broadband.

4K will get better over the years to come, Amazon and Netflix original shows are demanding they be shot in 4K because it helps with their sales and future proofs their platform. They are improving the compression and codecs every 6 months.

So when everyone has a 4K TV set and watching 4K
shot feeds, then nobody will get motion blur. Hopefully for sports this won't be too far off the distant future and IPTV distributed feeds are getting better all the time.

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:13 am

I presume this is similar to the problem with my new tv.
Everything I watch, not just sport, but tv series, films looks as if the background is painted, of filmed in front of a false background. I've seen the same films previously, so I know it's not the film, it's the tv, and I hate it. Only problem is I haven't a clue how to change it back or turn whatever causes it off.

Any advice would be appreciated, but I'll look at this motion feature in case it's that.

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by aggi » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:06 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I presume this is similar to the problem with my new tv.
Everything I watch, not just sport, but tv series, films looks as if the background is painted, of filmed in front of a false background. I've seen the same films previously, so I know it's not the film, it's the tv, and I hate it. Only problem is I haven't a clue how to change it back or turn whatever causes it off.

Any advice would be appreciated, but I'll look at this motion feature in case it's that.
I generally start by going through the picture settings and turning off all the picture "aids". Anything with "dynamic", "adaptive", "smoothing", "motion", "clear", "vivid" or that kind of thing in the name I'd turn to off and see how that looks.

If that's fine I'd stick with that, otherwise I'd try turning them back on one by one to see what they look like but generally I don't like the effects they have.

I'd normally also take the brightness down a bit. A lot of the default settings are to make the TV look good in a showroom, not in your house.
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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by piston broke » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:36 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I presume this is similar to the problem with my new tv.
Everything I watch, not just sport, but tv series, films looks as if the background is painted, of filmed in front of a false background. I've seen the same films previously, so I know it's not the film, it's the tv, and I hate it. Only problem is I haven't a clue how to change it back or turn whatever causes it off.

Any advice would be appreciated, but I'll look at this motion feature in case it's that.
Watch the video at post10, Colburn.

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by DCWat » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:44 pm

Vivid mode on my new TV is terrible. Far too bright and false looking. A lot of TV’s can be calibrated professionally but plenty guides on lone.

I’ve been really impressed so far when comparing football in HD to UHD.

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Re: Advice re 4K TV and live football

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:59 pm

piston broke wrote:Watch the video at post10, Colburn.
Cheers piston.
I'm stuck at work, but will check it out when I get home.

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