YetQuickenthetempo wrote:It amounted to no goals you're right, but we couldn't get the ball off them for large periods which was embarrasing at times.
Even City haven't dominated us that much at home.
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He played for Boca Juniors.
That's enough for me, had me reflecting on my visit there in 2007. Incredible place.
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That's enough for me, had me reflecting on my visit there in 2007. Incredible place.
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From what I have read about Medel he would fill the hole left by Barton it seems. The only risk is that he is South American and it's still a mans game there and, as you say, he could spend a deal of time suspended.gandhisflipflop wrote:Great post houseboy. I do keep regular contact with a friend who lives in Buenos Aires and is an independiente supporter. It's great to hear about what's going on in the football world over there and he regularly asks about Burnley. I prefer foreign football to the premier league at times apart from Burnley of course. As has been said about medel he does love a tackle and a slight negative is he is prone to picking up bookings but for 9m euros if we can get 2 or 3 good years out of him it will be money well spent. He will also bring out the best in defour in a midfield 3 imo as it will allow defour to concentrate on getting further forward.
Has your mate ever mentioned the Racing/Independiente derbies? If you ever look at pics of the grounds they are so close they could watch one anothers games. It's a shame that away support is banned there now but I suppose they brought it on themselves.
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SD will think about now as the priority, the future is secondary. Survival this season comes first, so a 31yr old who is fully fit and can do the business is OK.beddie wrote:It concerns me that we are looking at players of his age. I expected us to be only bringing in younger players, might cost more for younger quality but that's the way we should be re building imo.
Who can blame him, just a few bad results and people want him out. Young players take time, and the ones that don't are too expensive
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Seems a nailed on transfer if CT has an article about him! Otherwise, the rumour thread would suffice. Usually, hot rumours get deleted, so the fact that CT has posted himself, must mean it's all about his wooden leg getting through the medical, without us suspecting a limp!
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And rightly sogtclaret wrote:SD will think about now as the priority, the future is secondary. Survival this season comes first, so a 31yr old who is fully fit and can do the business is OK.
Who can blame him, just a few bad results and people want him out. Young players take time, and the ones that don't are too expensive
We need to focus on the here and now while building a strategy for the future.
McNeil is a nice surpise. And one we and maybe even the club didnt see having such an impact so soon. So he MAY negate the need for another winger.
Medel and a quick striker would be a fantastic window.
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Just spoke to a Cardiff fan I know and he says no need to worry about his age as he just sits in front of the back four and does most of his work there.
OK God get him signed without braking the bank OK
OK God get him signed without braking the bank OK
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We should sign him just for being a South American who is somehow called Gary
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Suggestions we’ve offered £6m but Besiktas want £8m.
Here’s hoping that we get a price agreed quickly if this is truly who Dyche wants and that we get personal terms agreed quickly.
Here’s hoping that we get a price agreed quickly if this is truly who Dyche wants and that we get personal terms agreed quickly.
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I'm not sure I believe you there Paul. Are you suggesting that the BFC recruitment team have come in with a low ball offer?BurnleyPaul wrote:Suggestions we’ve offered £6m but Besiktas want £8m.
Here’s hoping that we get a price agreed quickly if this is truly who Dyche wants and that we get personal terms agreed quickly.
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If we’ve offered 6 when they want 8, I think that’s a pretty reasonable opening offer.
Get him for 7 perhaps.
Get him for 7 perhaps.
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£6m if true, wouldn’t be ‘low ball’
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I knew someone would come on and post complete b0ll0cks - it's featured in both Turkish and Chilean media.IanMcL wrote:Seems a nailed on transfer if CT has an article about him! Otherwise, the rumour thread would suffice. Usually, hot rumours get deleted, so the fact that CT has posted himself, must mean it's all about his wooden leg getting through the medical, without us suspecting a limp!
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I know....I can believe it either! Who’d have thought that...Steddyman wrote:I'm not sure I believe you there Paul. Are you suggesting that the BFC recruitment team have come in with a low ball offer?
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It's a big meh from me I'm afraid.
Uninspiring to say the least.
The times I've seen him play he certainly didn't impress me - seems very slow & not a playmaker
Westwood is miles better than him
Uninspiring to say the least.
The times I've seen him play he certainly didn't impress me - seems very slow & not a playmaker
Westwood is miles better than him
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You’d have to say their careers say otherwise, really.Belgianclaret wrote:It's a big meh from me I'm afraid.
Uninspiring to say the least.
The times I've seen him play he certainly didn't impress me - seems very slow & not a playmaker
Westwood is miles better than him
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Ooooooooook...Belgianclaret wrote:It's a big meh from me I'm afraid.
Uninspiring to say the least.
The times I've seen him play he certainly didn't impress me - seems very slow & not a playmaker
Westwood is miles better than him
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I'm just setting up flight-tracker ready for the private jet from Istanbull to Manchester .... only to watch it divert to London City Airport, when West Ham agree to pay his wife's clothing allowance of £20,000 a month and we offer £500 of Primark vouchers !!
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Would be no surprise to see Defour end up in Turkey, a well paid graveyard for decent European players. Not sure we’d swap a creative midfielder for a defensive one though ? Though Defour has been little more than an injured show pony for us . Quality player of course but it shows most of his career has been in the lesser Euro leagues .
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houseboy wrote:From what I have read about Medel he would fill the hole left by Barton it seems. The only risk is that he is South American and it's still a mans game there and, as you say, he could spend a deal of time suspended.
Has your mate ever mentioned the Racing/Independiente derbies? If you ever look at pics of the grounds they are so close they could watch one anothers games. It's a shame that away support is banned there now but I suppose they brought it on themselves.
Yes he hates racing club with a passion and the derby is just as mad as the superclassico. As for filling the Barton void, I'd say he more defensively minded than Barton if that's possible. I think he could be the glue between defence and midfield, thus allowing our midfield to.support the attack more if deployed in a midfield 3. Medal, Westwood, cork/Hendrick with a front 3 of Barnes McNeil and JBG would be perfect away from home especially.
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Hmmm, tricky one this.
Does the idea of signing up an aging plodder immediately appeal to me? No
Is he the type of player that will boost our central midfield? Not really
Will we be paying to witness his decline as a footballer? Possibly
The most worrying aspect is that his name has been doing the rounds for a couple of weeks now, mainly in tandem with West Ham. This gives me the impression that we didn't enter this window with a long list of viable targets.
It could be that we have failed to bring in the players on our list or we have simply sat back, looked at who the other clubs are chasing and then decided to go for one of them. I'm reluctant to believe that we had this bloke on our list before the window opened, which wouldn't paint a pretty picture of our recruitment strategy moving forwards.
I think South West Clarets mate is bob on. He fits into the mould of a player like Pirlo, but with more bite and nowhere near the ball playing skill. The type of player who will sit in front of the back four as an added protective barrier and ping a few passes here and there.
I can't see him doing a better job in our central midfield than the players we already have. Not only does he lack the pace that could give us a forward boost, and the all round game to be a real step up, he is also lacking the developed understanding that our existing players have with each other. Using him as a replacement for Cork or Westwood would be a downgrade, especially when things are finally beginning to click for us again.
In terms of increasing our attacking intent/momentum and boosting the number of chances for our strikers, which could lead to more goals, I just can't see him adding much.
However
If we are going to play a 4-1-4-1 against the stronger clubs in the league, with him sitting in front of the back four and moving between defence and midfield, he could work very well for us. Looking at our last run of matches, before the season ends, this formation and this strategy could increase our chance of taking points from those games which might make the difference between staying up and going down.
If that is the thinking behind the move then I could probably get behind it for £6-£8m. Adding in his wages and the competing interest from West Ham ( if any of this is true ) he could be an expensive short term protection plan, but one we might benefit from.
Ideally, I would like someone younger for that role, I've mentioned Sergi Samper, Daley Sinkgraven and Alan Browne previously, but if Medel is the only player we have on the table he will be better than nothing. If we are looking to push the boat out to £10m+ a lot of other options would become available.
My biggest worries are that he will ask for a long contract, which could be detrimental to us over the longer term and West Ham are supposedly interested. If their interest is genuine we have no chance of matching them in terms of wages and their current league standing makes them more attractive.
This could leave us well and truly up **** creek if we have to decided to place all our eggs in a Medel shaped basket. Our only part in the proceedings could simply be as a patsy to get a better contract for Medel and a better price for his club.
Overall
Not a player I would have targeted at the outset of the window, not a player I am particularly excited about, a player that could do a limited role specific job for us in the short term, his ability to play in defence gives us a bit more squad depth and he is possibly better than nothing.
I think we should be aiming our sites a bit higher than him, with a view to the future, but if CT is posting articles I suspect this one is well on the way to being a done deal.
Does the idea of signing up an aging plodder immediately appeal to me? No
Is he the type of player that will boost our central midfield? Not really
Will we be paying to witness his decline as a footballer? Possibly
The most worrying aspect is that his name has been doing the rounds for a couple of weeks now, mainly in tandem with West Ham. This gives me the impression that we didn't enter this window with a long list of viable targets.
It could be that we have failed to bring in the players on our list or we have simply sat back, looked at who the other clubs are chasing and then decided to go for one of them. I'm reluctant to believe that we had this bloke on our list before the window opened, which wouldn't paint a pretty picture of our recruitment strategy moving forwards.
I think South West Clarets mate is bob on. He fits into the mould of a player like Pirlo, but with more bite and nowhere near the ball playing skill. The type of player who will sit in front of the back four as an added protective barrier and ping a few passes here and there.
I can't see him doing a better job in our central midfield than the players we already have. Not only does he lack the pace that could give us a forward boost, and the all round game to be a real step up, he is also lacking the developed understanding that our existing players have with each other. Using him as a replacement for Cork or Westwood would be a downgrade, especially when things are finally beginning to click for us again.
In terms of increasing our attacking intent/momentum and boosting the number of chances for our strikers, which could lead to more goals, I just can't see him adding much.
However
If we are going to play a 4-1-4-1 against the stronger clubs in the league, with him sitting in front of the back four and moving between defence and midfield, he could work very well for us. Looking at our last run of matches, before the season ends, this formation and this strategy could increase our chance of taking points from those games which might make the difference between staying up and going down.
If that is the thinking behind the move then I could probably get behind it for £6-£8m. Adding in his wages and the competing interest from West Ham ( if any of this is true ) he could be an expensive short term protection plan, but one we might benefit from.
Ideally, I would like someone younger for that role, I've mentioned Sergi Samper, Daley Sinkgraven and Alan Browne previously, but if Medel is the only player we have on the table he will be better than nothing. If we are looking to push the boat out to £10m+ a lot of other options would become available.
My biggest worries are that he will ask for a long contract, which could be detrimental to us over the longer term and West Ham are supposedly interested. If their interest is genuine we have no chance of matching them in terms of wages and their current league standing makes them more attractive.
This could leave us well and truly up **** creek if we have to decided to place all our eggs in a Medel shaped basket. Our only part in the proceedings could simply be as a patsy to get a better contract for Medel and a better price for his club.
Overall
Not a player I would have targeted at the outset of the window, not a player I am particularly excited about, a player that could do a limited role specific job for us in the short term, his ability to play in defence gives us a bit more squad depth and he is possibly better than nothing.
I think we should be aiming our sites a bit higher than him, with a view to the future, but if CT is posting articles I suspect this one is well on the way to being a done deal.
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How long does it take you to write the essays out ? Always good to readLong Time Lurker wrote:Hmmm, tricky one this.
Does the idea of signing up an aging plodder immediately appeal to me? No
Is he the type of player that will boost our central midfield? Not really
Will we be paying to witness his decline as a footballer? Possibly
The most worrying aspect is that his name has been doing the rounds for a couple of weeks now, mainly in tandem with West Ham. This gives me the impression that we didn't enter this window with a long list of viable targets.
It could be that we have failed to bring in the players on our list or we have simply sat back, looked at who the other clubs are chasing and then decided to go for one of them. I'm reluctant to believe that we had this bloke on our list before the window opened, which wouldn't paint a pretty picture of our recruitment strategy moving forwards.
I think South West Clarets mate is bob on. He fits into the mould of a player like Pirlo, but with more bite and nowhere near the ball playing skill. The type of player who will sit in front of the back four as an added protective barrier and ping a few passes here and there.
I can't see him doing a better job in our central midfield than the players we already have. Not only does he lack the pace that could give us a forward boost, and the all round game to be a real step up, he is also lacking the developed understanding that our existing players have with each other. Using him as a replacement for Cork or Westwood would be a downgrade, especially when things are finally beginning to click for us again.
In terms of increasing our attacking intent/momentum and boosting the number of chances for our strikers, which could lead to more goals, I just can't see him adding much.
However
If we are going to play a 4-1-4-1 against the stronger clubs in the league, with him sitting in front of the back four and moving between defence and midfield, he could work very well for us. Looking at our last run of matches, before the season ends, this formation and this strategy could increase our chance of taking points from those games which might make the difference between staying up and going down.
If that is the thinking behind the move then I could probably get behind it for £6-£8m. Adding in his wages and the competing interest from West Ham ( if any of this is true ) he could be an expensive short term protection plan, but one we might benefit from.
Ideally, I would like someone younger for that role, I've mentioned Sergi Samper, Daley Sinkgraven and Alan Browne previously, but if Medel is the only player we have on the table he will be better than nothing. If we are looking to push the boat out to £10m+ a lot of other options would become available.
My biggest worries are that he will ask for a long contract, which could be detrimental to us over the longer term and West Ham are supposedly interested. If their interest is genuine we have no chance of matching them in terms of wages and their current league standing makes them more attractive.
This could leave us well and truly up **** creek if we have to decided to place all our eggs in a Medel shaped basket. Our only part in the proceedings could simply be as a patsy to get a better contract for Medel and a better price for his club.
Overall
Not a player I would have targeted at the outset of the window, not a player I am particularly excited about, a player that could do a limited role specific job for us in the short term, his ability to play in defence gives us a bit more squad depth and he is possibly better than nothing.
I think we should be aiming our sites a bit higher than him, with a view to the future, but if CT is posting articles I suspect this one is well on the way to being a done deal.
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He is more tenacious than Pirlo. A more 'in your face' type of player. A player in the Pirlo mould is wide of the mark imo.
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Maybe Jedi, Westwood will only get better though if you ask me - Medel seems to have the best behind himjedi_master wrote:You’d have to say their careers say otherwise, really.
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I'd rather us go for Elneney from Arsenal
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Not too convinced about him either Vegas - IMO we need someone who can play higher up the pitchVegas Claret wrote:I'd rather us go for Elneney from Arsenal
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Depends on the mediumReecey1987 wrote:How long does it take you to write the essays out ? Always good to read
Writing a post like that out by hand would take me hours and it would be a page filled with a mass of scribbles, cross outs and sentences/directional arrows all over over the place. Despite years of "I won't be beat" work to improve, being dyslexic isn't easy, even though my own case isn't the most severe form. Although I wouldn't trade my difference to change it, being dyslexic comes with benefits as well as drawbacks.
Tappety tapping out a post is a lot quicker, because I'm a fairly fast touch typer and my posts are generally off the cuff streams of conscious thought - with the ability to tidy them up being a lot easier on a computer.
Granted they are very rambly, which I apologise for, but every now and then I hope they have a few interesting bits and bobs in them that can play a part in the general discussions.
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no need to apologise i enjoy reading your postsLong Time Lurker wrote:Depends on the medium
Writing a post like that out by hand would take me hours and it would be a page filled with a mass of scribbles, cross outs and sentences/directional arrows all over over the place. Despite years of "I won't be beat" work to improve, being dyslexic isn't easy, even though my own case isn't the most severe form. Although I wouldn't trade my difference to change it, being dyslexic comes with benefits as well as drawbacks.
Tappety tapping out a post is a lot quicker, because I'm a fairly fast touch typer and my posts are generally off the cuff streams of conscious thought - with the ability to tidy them up being a lot easier on a computer.
Granted they are very rambly, which I apologise for, but every now and then I hope they have a few interesting bits and bobs in them that can play a part in the general discussions.
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I have a cunning plan as we can’t reach agreement on a fee how About we offer Defour in exchange for Medel ?
Good or what
As we all know Defour is fit now
Good or what
As we all know Defour is fit now
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Not another midget in midfield please, would rather have Wanyama or Billing..
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Belgianclaret wrote:Not too convinced about him either Vegas - IMO we need someone who can play higher up the pitch
26 v 31 year old, both defensive midfielders, one with far more PL experience
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Who's this the 26 year old player?Vegas Claret wrote:26 v 31 year old, both defensive midfielders, one with far more PL experience
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Ah yes but all the rumours appear somewhere! This is the rumour you chose to single out, for whatever reason. Had not realised you believe Chile and Turkey media above all others!ClaretTony wrote:I knew someone would come on and post complete b0ll0cks - it's featured in both Turkish and Chilean media.
Perhaps you just fancied Medeling!
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As much as i like westwood they arent anywhere near the same level. Medel is a major upgrade.Belgianclaret wrote:It's a big meh from me I'm afraid.
Uninspiring to say the least.
The times I've seen him play he certainly didn't impress me - seems very slow & not a playmaker
Westwood is miles better than him
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I was just mentioning Elneney wants leave Arsenal, 26 and on 55K a weekDazzler wrote:Who's this the 26 year old player?
- nobody has linked him, I'd just prefer him to Medel that's all given his age
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I was intrigued by the notion of signing him on the strength of how fit his missus is...… and for our convenience for all future signings I've found this remarkable site http://wagsapp.net/
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Our midfield would sound like a prize in the whittling Olympics.....Cork Medel
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Maybe it means we're after David Silva as well?CharlieinNewMexico wrote:Our midfield would sound like a prize in the whittling Olympics.....Cork Medel
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Mind you, signing Moses would be no good as God told him to come forth!Grimsdale wrote:Maybe it means we're after David Silva as well?
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Sounds like a plan. I would welcome anyone with the midfield 'fight' that we do seem to be missing, a real leader like Barton.gandhisflipflop wrote:Yes he hates racing club with a passion and the derby is just as mad as the superclassico. As for filling the Barton void, I'd say he more defensively minded than Barton if that's possible. I think he could be the glue between defence and midfield, thus allowing our midfield to.support the attack more if deployed in a midfield 3. Medal, Westwood, cork/Hendrick with a front 3 of Barnes McNeil and JBG would be perfect away from home especially.
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So Defour for Medel it is then.
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If only it was that easySouth West Claret. wrote:So Defour for Medel it is then.
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How old was Joey when he played for us! Why do we always have to sign a player and automatically think hmmmm what will his resale value be. We needdd to do that years ago we don't really need to do it now. It's now about mproving the first team and squad although not really the best window fo do it in. Hes like a Barton sort of player so it's a yes from me.
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If you don't try you may never know.Reecey1987 wrote:If only it was that easy
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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets linked with Medel
Not just Joey Barton was supposedly past his best - Grezza was too and he didn’t do too badly for us either!
Both of them played a defensive role which didn’t tax them physically unduly but were both fine players who held us together.
My one concern about Medel is that Barton was a leader within the dressing room and so was Grezza. Is Medel the same or do his foreign roots preclude that ? We appear to badly need an outfield player to weld the side together on and off the field. That is why our change of keeper has made a difference already but another good leader in the field of play is what we need to continue our climb up the table.
Both of them played a defensive role which didn’t tax them physically unduly but were both fine players who held us together.
My one concern about Medel is that Barton was a leader within the dressing room and so was Grezza. Is Medel the same or do his foreign roots preclude that ? We appear to badly need an outfield player to weld the side together on and off the field. That is why our change of keeper has made a difference already but another good leader in the field of play is what we need to continue our climb up the table.
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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets linked with Medel
South West Claret. wrote:So Defour for Medel it is then.
Why? They are 2 completely different types of player.
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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets linked with Medel
I don’t have to spell it out surely.gandhisflipflop wrote:Why? They are 2 completely different types of player.
Re: ARTICLE: Clarets linked with Medel
Just splash out on Fellaini on loan. Sorted
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South West Claret. wrote:I don’t have to spell it out surely.
I'm afraid you do. So why?
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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets linked with Medel
Because Defour has turned out to be the proverbial sick note most would agree, if we can off load him for this Medel fella it would look a good deal for Burnley on paper.