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Gillette

Post by Test User » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:40 pm

Oh boy. The trigger-kittens are really upset at their latest advert.

https://twitter.com/Gillette/status/1084850521196900352" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Let's have a look at a few of the comments from the brain-donors of Gab.com

NorthJersey908 T_D writes: "**** #Gillette. Corporations should have no public political stance and should STFU about social issues. They are NOT "influencers of culture" they make ******* razor blades."

Prometheus Unhinged thinks that this is a "**** you" to their customers: "No wonder they feel so free to say "**** you" to their customers."

Dave Nickerson knows who's really behind this attack on men (((spoiler, it's the jews))): "Hmmm, everyone’s talking about that new Gillette ad that attacks ‘toxic masculinity’ & portrays white men as sexist pigs & non-white men as heroes. I wonder who’s behind this? Oh look, a Jewish-founded ad agency, committed to diversity, run by a Harvard graduate named Reiner."

John Rivers with an entirely normal and not at all unhinged take: "Hi, we're Gillette, we hate men and want White People to die. Buy our razors, you rapist white trash ****. Thx!"
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Re: Gillette

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:42 pm

Boycott them

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Re: Gillette

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:42 pm

Your Turtle alarm is running a bit slow im afraid
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Re: Gillette

Post by Millertime v1.7 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:44 pm

Lads, do try to keep up
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Been on this since early afternoon

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Re: Gillette

Post by andyh » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:37 am

It is an ad. It has got people talking so it’s done it’s Jon. But I felt it was racist. Too many scene of bad white guys and good nonwhite guys. If you switched the ethnicity around I think there would be uproar mainly from the people defending the ad now.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:58 am

andyh wrote:It is an ad. It has got people talking so it’s done it’s Jon. But I felt it was racist. Too many scene of bad white guys and good nonwhite guys. If you switched the ethnicity around I think there would be uproar mainly from the people defending the ad now.
It's pretty pathetic that people are trying ti distract from the obviously good message the ad is intending with this bullshit, but one of the first spoken lines by people in the advert is a black guy saying "boys will be boys".

The ad wasn't racist, and anyone who thinks it is is bending over backwards to criticise an anti-sexism, anti-sexual harassment, anti-sexual assault video that has nothing to do with race. I can only imagine why people would do that.
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Re: Gillette

Post by MACCA » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:11 am

I heard the term "manhunt" used yesterday several times.

People everywhere presuming the sex of someone without even knowing the facts.

It really is time we rid of all this sexism in our media.

#equalrights
#womenmatter

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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:13 am

MACCA wrote:I heard the term "manhunt" used yesterday several times.

People everywhere presuming the sex of someone without even knowing the facts.

It really is time we rid of all this sexism in our media.

#equalrights
#womenmatter
"Manhunt" isn't gender specific.

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Re: Gillette

Post by thatdberight » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:14 am

It made me want to barf.

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Re: Gillette

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:38 am

So many #BroFlakes

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Re: Gillette

Post by MACCA » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:45 am

Test User wrote:"Manhunt" isn't gender specific.
Still not right

It upsets me.

I think everything and everything should be equal.
There's no room for any discrimination in this world.

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Re: Gillette

Post by andyh » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:49 am

Test User wrote:It's pretty pathetic that people are trying ti distract from the obviously good message the ad is intending with this bullshit, but one of the first spoken lines by people in the advert is a black guy saying "boys will be boys".

The ad wasn't racist, and anyone who thinks it is is bending over backwards to criticise an anti-sexism, anti-sexual harassment, anti-sexual assault video that has nothing to do with race. I can only imagine why people would do that.
I found it racist.

I used to work with the police and their rule was if someone thought something was racist it was treated as such.

Should all ads be given the "it isn't what the advertiser meant" treatment? I've also sat in advertising meetings and that ad will have been examined 100s of times and the content disected. It will have been a decision to go ahead even though it is very lobsided in terms of race and positive and negative imagery. They may not have set out with that as a goal but it will have been pointed out before it went public.

Racism cuts both ways, intention is not really part of the discussion.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:50 am

I saw it and thought "Nice marketing idea"

And then I realised it would set off a lot of people and thought

"Absolutely brilliant marketing idea"

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Re: Gillette

Post by andyh » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:56 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:I saw it and thought "Nice marketing idea"

And then I realised it would set off a lot of people and thought

"Absolutely brilliant marketing idea"
I agree it was effective marketing... doesn't stop it being racist though.

My test is always switch it around and would it be a problem. (That is why baa baa black sheep isn't racist.)

I'd be saying it was racist if they switched the ethnic origin of the actors in the ad. So to me it is racist.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:09 am

I have to admit that I haven't looked at it closely enough to draw that sort of conclusion but then again I rarely see stuff that people tell me is racist against whites.

I don't know what that makes me, but I have to admit being pretty comfortable with it.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:18 am

Cant afford their razors now use Cornerstone an American site far cheaper good products

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Re: Gillette

Post by Blackrod » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:26 am

‘The best men can be’ what about women and trans ? It’s presuming only men use razors. Sexist.

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Re: Gillette

Post by IndigoLake » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 am

Toxic, sexist feminazi garbage. I wonder who it was directed by?

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Re: Gillette

Post by martin_p » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:43 am

Not seen the add, but looking at the posters it’s winding up I like it already!

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Re: Gillette

Post by JohnMcGreal » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:01 am

It certainly 'triggered' a good number of 'snowflakes'.

With the razor advert and the vegan sausage roll from Greggs, it's been a tough start to 2019 for the precious ones.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:06 am

Remember it's a continuation of and only slight alteration of "The Best a Man Can Get"

Didn't offend me at all.

Thought there was a fair range of skin colour, although a shame there was no white skin on display - albinos sadly lacking. More men portrayed in a good light than bad and those being told off from a range of demographics.

I agree companies selling products shouldn't get involved in social issues as they're just cynically profiteering off of it, a bit like Vodafone Australia trying to comment on Australian cricket with Steve Smith and "Everyone makes mistakes" cashing in on mental health issues.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Lord Beamish » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:10 am

I guess Gillette is not for sensitive skin after all....
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Re: Gillette

Post by piston broke » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:28 am

If women are equal why is it such a nono to physically hit one. Some people just want twatting.
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Re: Gillette

Post by TVC15 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:14 am

piston broke wrote:If women are equal why is it such a nono to physically hit one. Some people just want twatting.
I know I should not laugh reading that but I could not help it....i’m off to church to say 5 Hail Marys
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Re: Gillette

Post by Shore claret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:28 am

piston broke wrote:If women are equal why is it such a nono to physically hit one. Some people just want twatting.
well done, just spat my drink out laughing at that.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:05 am

MACCA wrote:Still not right

It upsets me.

I think everything and everything should be equal.
There's no room for any discrimination in this world.
Then be upset. No one cares.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:06 am

piston broke wrote:If women are equal why is it such a nono to physically hit one. Some people just want twatting.
You can hit a woman if you want just as much as you can hit a man. What makes you think you can't?

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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:08 am

andyh wrote:I found it racist.

I used to work with the police and their rule was if someone thought something was racist it was treated as such.

Should all ads be given the "it isn't what the advertiser meant" treatment? I've also sat in advertising meetings and that ad will have been examined 100s of times and the content disected. It will have been a decision to go ahead even though it is very lobsided in terms of race and positive and negative imagery. They may not have set out with that as a goal but it will have been pointed out before it went public.

Racism cuts both ways, intention is not really part of the discussion.

Ok. But it wasn't racist, so carry on being triggered by nothing.

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Re: Gillette

Post by MACCA » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:39 am

Test User wrote:Then be upset. No one cares.
Sexist

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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:45 am

MACCA wrote:Sexist

Ah yes.

The anti-racists are the real racists so it makes sense that the anti-sexists are the real sexists.

You people are ******* hilarious :lol:

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Re: Gillette

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:25 pm

Test User wrote:Ok. But it wasn't racist, so carry on being triggered by nothing.

Other way around and you would be bleating racism and you know it.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:34 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:Other way around and you would be bleating racism and you know it.
Otherwayaroundism - When one person claims that if the situation was revered then anyone who disagrees with them would act differently, but that they themselves wouldn't.
See also: Strawman.

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Re: Gillette

Post by andyh » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:26 pm

Test User wrote:Ok. But it wasn't racist, so carry on being triggered by nothing.
I'm not "triggered" by anything.

You started a thread with a video link I'd not previously seen. (Maybe you were triggered by the responses you'd seen)

I thought it was racist.

I'm not crying about it. I think it is good advertising. However I still think it is racist.
That is an opinion not a rant. I don't want it banned. I'm not suggesting boycotting products.

I do think the weird thing is that some people who are defending it would decry it if it was reversed.
There is a new breed of racist, one that only sees things one way. True non-racists are not anti-white they are pro diversity.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Falcon » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:27 pm

Perhaps they just don't think it's racist
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Re: Gillette

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:28 pm

I still don't see it as racist.

I'm not surprised at those that are over doing it a tad though!

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Re: Gillette

Post by martin_p » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:34 pm

andyh wrote:I'm not "triggered" by anything.

You started a thread with a video link I'd not previously seen. (Maybe you were triggered by the responses you'd seen)

I thought it was racist.

I'm not crying about it. I think it is good advertising. However I still think it is racist.
That is an opinion not a rant. I don't want it banned. I'm not suggesting boycotting products.

I do think the weird thing is that some people who are defending it would decry it if it was reversed.
There is a new breed of racist, one that only sees things one way. True non-racists are not anti-white they are pro diversity.
But both the 'toxic' males and 'non toxic' males are different races. So how is it racist?

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Re: Gillette

Post by andyh » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:38 pm

Look again at the amount of each. The number of toxic white males far exceeds the non white males. The number of positive non white males exceeds the white males.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:38 pm

Just got round to watching this and I've got to be honest I was expecting a lot more weighting towards white man=evil, non-white man=good.

I just quickly tallied it up as I was watching;
Scenes showing white men behaving badly = 5
Scenes showing non-white men behaving badly = 4
Scenes showing white men behaving well = 2
Scenes showing non-white men behaving well = 4

Are the easily-offended looking for something that isn't there?
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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:38 pm

andyh wrote: I do think the weird thing is that some people who are defending it would decry it if it was reversed.
There is a new breed of racist, one that only sees things one way. True non-racists are not anti-white they are pro diversity.

If you are turning this non-racist message against toxic masculinity into an anti-white message of racism then you're definitely triggered as ****.


"True non-racists are not anti-white they are pro diversity."

There is nothing anti-white about Gillette's advert. It's hilarious that you think there is.
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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:40 pm

andyh wrote:Look again at the amount of each. The number of toxic white males far exceeds the non white males. The number of positive non white males exceeds the white males.
You're literally tallying the numbers, are you? :lol:

What are the numbers? You've counted so please post the numbers that prove that the advert, and not you, is racist.
And remember to count them properly. White = 1 and Black = 0.6

That joke mocking racists will be called racist. Watch.

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Re: Gillette

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:43 pm

Trump swears by Gillette

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Re: Gillette

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:45 pm

Course he does.

He lends his to Melania with the vain hope that she will use it "down there" so he can sniff it.

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Re: Gillette

Post by MACCA » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:47 pm

Test User wrote:Ah yes.

The anti-racists are the real racists so it makes sense that the anti-sexists are the real sexists.

You people are ******* hilarious :lol:
And now a potty mouth too.

Bully..

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Re: Gillette

Post by andyh » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:47 pm

Test User wrote:You're literally tallying the numbers, are you? :lol:

What are the numbers? You've counted so please post the numbers that prove that the advert, and not you, is racist.
And remember to count them properly. White = 1 and Black = 0.6

That joke mocking racists will be called racist. Watch.
You are right. My opinion is simply wrong. I know I found it racist but you are the arbiter on such things so I will correct my view.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Billy Balfour » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:50 pm

Oh nose. An advert is threatening MY MIGHTY MANLINESS.

Blimey, though. Don't some precious people get upset about next to nothing. Same kind of folks who bang on about vegan sausage rolls, even when they can still buy the regular pork ones.
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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:51 pm

andyh wrote:You are right. My opinion is simply wrong. I know I found it racist but you are the arbiter on such things so I will correct my view.
Yes. Your opinion is simply wrong. Someone else literally counted for you and proved that your opinion is bullshit.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Falcon » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:55 pm

Gillette: Don't be a dickhead
Dickheads: How dare you?

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Re: Gillette

Post by martin_p » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:56 pm

andyh wrote:You are right. My opinion is simply wrong. I know I found it racist but you are the arbiter on such things so I will correct my view.
But your view is based on nothing more than some (very) slighly different numbers. If it was presenting a consistently negative view of one race and positive view of another you'd have a point, but it doesn't.

And for clarity, if the number's were reversed I'd still have no problem with it, and more tellingly, neither would you.

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Re: Gillette

Post by andyh » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:56 pm

Test User wrote:Yes. Your opinion is simply wrong. Someone else literally counted for you and proved that your opinion is bullshit.
I like you. If we were in a pub you are just the sort of person I'd love to spend the night chatting with.

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Re: Gillette

Post by Test User » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:59 pm

andyh wrote:I like you. If we were in a pub you are just the sort of person I'd love to spend the night chatting with.
We'd give each other alcohol poisoning.

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