Big Screens

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:46 am

I see the club has tweeted about the end panels of the stands been moved so folk can see the big screens.

The bloke behind me will be happy, then again he will complain about the wind and rain or the angle of the screen.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:49 am

Don't like sound of that, I would rather be warm/dry than getting a better view of the big screen. I see it as a perk of sitting in an upper tier.

Can't please everyone, I know.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:05 pm

Be interesting to see how it all fits together appearance wise if and when the new building is finally finished

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:06 pm

jedi_master wrote:Don't like sound of that, I would rather be warm/dry than getting a better view of the big screen. I see it as a perk of sitting in an upper tier.

Can't please everyone, I know.

They have to remove them or people in the new disabled corner won't be able to see all the pitch, club have previously said that's the reason, not so people can see the screen. I'm with you though, preferring to keep warm and dry and I've no interest in looking at the screen.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:17 pm

Could they not just replace the panels with new see through ones then everyone is happy.

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:18 pm

Many more games like Boxing day and I'd gladly sit behind the big screen..

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:19 pm

karatekid wrote:Could they not just replace the panels with new see through ones then everyone is happy.

I wouldn’t be happy - the glare when looking over from the CFS will be horrible for the 2 games a season we have sunshine.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:23 pm

Anti reflection material similar to that on high rise buildings would do the trick.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:26 pm

Sounds ridiculous but may not be as bad as it sounds

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:28 pm

karatekid wrote:Could they not just replace the panels with new see through ones then everyone is happy.

Sounds logical. Also note the structural beams will have to stay to hold the roof up - which will make it look a little half finished..

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:34 pm

Vision is everything when stuck in a corner as its hard enough to see the otherside of the pitch but surely it only needs taking down so far as the roof of the new build finishes half way up the top tier
Olympiacos was very impaired vision in that corner looking through perspex then in front of that the netting that came down full height of the stand
Then theres always the corner view at QPR

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:They have to remove them or people in the new disabled corner won't be able to see all the pitch, club have previously said that's the reason, not so people can see the screen. I'm with you though, preferring to keep warm and dry and I've no interest in looking at the screen.

I'll withdraw this comment, they are removing them higher up. I'm thankful I don't sit anywhere near them.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:42 pm

Every time I seem to glance up for some relevant info all I seem to get nine times out of ten are poxy adverts, so not bothered about them now.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:43 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I'll withdraw this comment, they are removing them higher up. I'm thankful I don't sit anywhere near them.

Depends how far they move them back, but won't the screen itself offer a degree of protection from the elements? It does go all the way across. Plus I don't think the wind tends to come in from that direction anyway.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:58 pm

martin_p wrote:It does go all the way across.Depends how far they move them back, but won't the screen itself offer a degree of protection from the elements?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:59 pm

ClaretTony wrote:

Ok, most of the way across

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:00 pm

Its illustrated on the plans, so it will look a bit like the image below I'd imagine

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MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:08 pm

FYI

snail12345 · Post by **snail12345** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:19 pm

"SQUARE PEG, ROUND HOLE" springs to mind. You would hope the gaps will be filled following the screen erection to finish it off correctly.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:46 pm

snail12345 wrote:"SQUARE PEG, ROUND HOLE" springs to mind. You would hope the gaps will be filled following the screen erection to finish it off correctly.

All depends on cost. If it's purely to look nice and to ogfer the fans a bit more protection it'll be a no go.

However if it can make money as an advertising point as it'll be seen a lot with people looking that way, then they may go for it.

We know fans a way down on the list of priorities, especially where making or saving money is concerned.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:49 pm

MACCA wrote:All depends on cost. If it's purely to look nice and to ogfer the fans a bit more protection it'll be a no go.

However if it can make money as an advertising point as it'll be seen a lot with people looking that way, then they may go for it.

We know fans a way down on the list of priorities, especially where making or saving money is concerned.

Yes, absolutely no fans will benefit from the building of the new disables facilities. And the way the club have fleeced us by consistently putting up season ticket and programme prices is nothing short of a disgrace.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:51 pm

martin_p wrote:Yes, absolutely no fans will benefit from the building of the new disables facilities. And the way the club have fleeced us by consistently putting up season ticket and programme prices is nothing short of a disgrace.

Yes but look at the price of a twix.

The same twix that is available in 100s of shops and a lot cheaper, but rather than get one elsewhere some would prefer to moan and go without.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:55 pm

karatekid wrote:Could they not just replace the panels with new see through ones then everyone is happy.

They'd need some pretty big windscreen wipers for these panels to keep them see-through, in the unlikely event of a wet day!

thomaspaine · Post by **thomaspaine** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:57 pm

Moaners will always moan - its in their DNA. Let's leave the redevelopment to the experts--it looks good to me.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:12 pm

Seems strange they dont just angle the screen forward a bit tbh

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:13 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Seems strange they dont just angle the screen forward a bit tbh

How would that help?

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:15 pm

martin_p wrote:Yes, absolutely no fans will benefit from the building of the new disables facilities. And the way the club have fleeced us by consistently putting up season ticket and programme prices is nothing short of a disgrace.

My season ticket price has not gone up nor has programme prices for quite a few years !!!!!

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:15 pm

Less panels in the way. it could be suspended about 3m in front of the profile of the stand at the same height.

The big factor really is where they stick the other screen. If they are going to have it on top of the Bob Lord then its a moot point really

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:16 pm

Bosscat wrote:My season ticket price has not gone up nor has programme prices for quite a few years !!!!!

Yes I know, that was my point. Sorry, sarcasm doesn’t translate well on a messageboard.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:21 pm

thomaspaine wrote:Let's leave the redevelopment to the experts--it looks good to me.

If they weren't experts when they started, they certainly will be by the time they finish in 2031.

But in principle I do agree. Telly, no telly, positioning of telly.. whatever they do you can 100% guarantee it'll get moaned about.

Who goes to football to look at some big adverts anyway?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:23 pm

martin_p wrote:Yes, absolutely no fans will benefit from the building of the new disables facilities. And the way the club have fleeced us by consistently putting up season ticket and programme prices is nothing short of a disgrace.

Yes they will, hense why the premier league have made it compulsory.
We are only a little bit behind the deadline, but that can't be helped, they have come across some unforseen problems .

My season ticket hasn't gone up for ages, however I don't know about programmes as I haven't bought one for years.

Other than that, cool story bro

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:28 pm

MACCA wrote:Yes they will, hense why the premier league have made it compulsory.
We are only a little bit behind the deadline, but that can't be helped, they have come across some unforseen problems .

My season ticket hasn't gone up for ages, however I don't know about programmes as I haven't bought one for years.

Other than that, cool story bro

Ah, so now you have examples of the club doing something to benefit fans. Good, you’ve learnt something.

longside72 · Post by **longside72** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:37 pm

Just put screens behind the 'tv screen' from jhu to jimmy mac stand, will keep wind/rain out and noise/atmosphere in .

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:43 pm

jedi_master wrote:Don't like sound of that, I would rather be warm/dry than getting a better view of the big screen. I see it as a perk of sitting in an upper tier.

Can't please everyone, I know.

I had heard they were issuing Bob Lord Stylee travel rugs to supporters who feel cold. I also hear,but as yet not confirmed that all seats in JHU are to be modified and made to swivel as many fans are suffering from cricks in their necks with turning their heads to look at the screen.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:45 pm

longside72 wrote:Just put screens behind the 'tv screen' from jhu to jimmy mac stand, will keep wind/rain out and noise/atmosphere in .

Exactly.

It’s not rocket science

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:48 pm

longside72 wrote:Just put screens behind the 'tv screen' from jhu to jimmy mac stand, will keep wind/rain out and noise/atmosphere in .

Something like they’ve done at The Hawthorns would look great

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:51 pm

martin_p wrote:Ah, so now you have examples of the club doing something to benefit fans. Good, you’ve learnt something.

Oh yes, I forgot if something doesn't change its a benefit to the fans.
So the none increase in season ticket is doing the fans a benefit, so what is the price hikes in 90% of every other area of BFC, the new found charges and money making excercises called?

A big thanks to the theives in the area that didn't choose to rob my home, they are doing something to benefit me after all.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:56 pm

MACCA wrote:Oh yes, I forgot if something doesn't change its a benefit to the fans.
So the none increase in season ticket is doing the fans a benefit, so what is the price hikes in 90% of every other area of BFC, the new found charges and money making excercises called?

A big thanks to the theives in the area that didn't choose to rob my home, they are doing something to benefit me after all.

You really don't like the club, do you?

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:56 pm

How is not putting season ticket prices up not doing something for the fans ?

Have a look at the interest some clubs charge for those who can't pay for their ticket in 1 lump sum compared to our no fee, would you class that as doing something for the fans ?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:07 pm

dsr wrote:You really don't like the club, do you?

In a Simon Cowell voice, I don't like it, I love it.

It's the decision makers/powers that be, that I don't have much time for.
I think they are alienating more fans away than they are introducing/keeping them these days.

Some people think they make all the right calls

Some think they are as much good things as bad

Some think they get quite a bit wrong and could do a lot better with regards to the treatment of the club's supporters.

Yes I am in the latter category, If that means I don't like the club in your eyes, then fair enough.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:14 pm

Can't we get ones which hang from the top of the stands?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:14 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:How is not putting season ticket prices up not doing something for the fans ?

Have a look at the interest some clubs charge for those who can't pay for their ticket in 1 lump sum compared to our no fee, would you class that as doing something for the fans ?

Keep up, i said it is a benefit to the fans.
I think its great that they dont charge as much as Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and probably 90% of the other premier league teams.

The season ticket price is a good go to for how the club does a lot for our fans, but taking away that great gesture of not putting them up year after year like the rest, there's very little else they do IMO.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:19 pm

MACCA wrote:It's the decision makers/powers that be, that I don't have much time for.
I think they are alienating more fans away than they are introducing/keeping them these days.

Right, remind me what the attendance was against Fulham again?

It was almost a full house. But I remember the days, before 2009 when the police had to keep fans from encroaching onto the field and kids climbing the floodlights just to get a glimpse of the mighty John Spicer.

You think its full these days, you couldn't move back then. Thats before the board alienated the supporters though.

(Edited for you MACCA)

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:21 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:Right, remind me what the attendance was against Fulham again? It was almost a full house. But I remember the days, before 2009 when the police had to keep fans from encroaching onto the field and kids climbing the floodlights just to get a glimpse of the mighty John Spicer. You think it was full this days, you couldn't move back then.

Can we have that in proppa Engerland speak please

Edit - or is it a joke/sarcasm just with really bad grammar?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:22 pm

MACCA wrote:Oh yes, I forgot if something doesn't so what is the price hikes in 90% of every other area of BFC, the new found charges and money making excercises called?

A big thanks to the theives in the area that didn't choose to rob my home, they are doing something to benefit me after all.

All that bile is really going to start to mess with your insides. The only cost you have to pay (that BFC have control of) is the entrance fee, anything else is optional. If you think the cost of a twix or a pint is too high then don’t pay it.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:25 pm

MACCA wrote:Keep up, i said it is a benefit to the fans.
I think its great that they dont charge as much as Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and probably 90% of the other premier league teams.

The season ticket price is a good go to for how the club does a lot for our fans, but taking away that great gesture of not putting them up year after year like the rest, there's very little else they do IMO.

So the only gesture that you approve of is keeping season ticket prices down; and by doing so, you liken them to thieves. How do you describe the bits you don't approve of?

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:26 pm

Surely we should be looking to box the entire corner in aonthat the screen is within the stadium, and the weather is kept out?

Also, wouldn’t it be easier to just move the screen around a bit?

Lastly, the floor of the upper tier of the disable section will prevent anybody below row 12-13 of the upper Longside from block 6-9 being able to see the clock anyway.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:28 pm

martin_p wrote:All that bile is really going to start to mess with your insides. The only cost you have to pay (that BFC have control of) is the entrance fee, anything else is optional. If you think the cost of a twix or a pint is too high then don’t pay it.

Well you're wrong as I have the same option of attending, just the same as I have whether or not I buy a twix or a pint ( I sometimes get a bovril and/or a bottle of pop for the boy, and if super desperate I get a pie, but that's very rare )
I'm aware of the choices people have, I'm just saying I think the club could be a lot better with fans

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:29 pm

Claretforever wrote:Surely we should be looking to box the entire corner in aonthat the screen is within the stadium, and the weather is kept out?

Also, wouldn’t it be easier to just move the screen around a bit?

Lastly, the floor of the upper tier of the disable section will prevent anybody below row 12-13 of the upper Longside from block 6-9 being able to see the clock anyway.

There is another screen going up, I'm not 100% sure where yet though.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:29 pm

That corner is about two thirds less exposed than it was, don’t know what people are worrying about.