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Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:51 pm

If he walks i might just laugh out a spleen.

The cultish following from the Leeds lot has been frankly nauseating, maverick genius or not.
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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Dyched » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:55 pm

He was only visiting the world renowned Derby Cathedral

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by conyoviejo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:56 pm

Its true ,my spy just told me he was going to resign tonight..lol

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:57 pm

#Bielxit
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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Zom Zom » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:57 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Its true ,my spy just told me he was going to resign tonight..lol
It may be about the New keeper they are about to sign. Casillas from Real Madrid.
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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by claptrappers_union » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:58 pm

Marcelo Bielsa is 'set to resign' as Leeds United manager... oh dear

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by LeadBelly » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:05 pm

Probably an incoming addition to the squad; GK likeliest.
He's got Leeds a big following in Argentina (and some other bits of S America) - in addition to him getting them up the top of the league heading towards "where they belong".

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:05 pm

Surely not... He has history though didn't he walk out on Lazio suddenly?

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:25 pm

The last time that Marcelo Bielsa held an emergency press conference, he quit Marseille...

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by DomBFC1882 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:25 pm

Praying he quits it would be hilarious

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:29 pm

I suspect it is the goalkeeper but really would be funny if he walked.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:31 pm

The guardian are reporting hes set to resign

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by CombatClaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:32 pm

Club might just be forcing him into an official but insincere apology.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Billy_Bumface » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:34 pm

He’s announcing the Stoke team for Saturday.

Unashamedly stolen from Twitter.
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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:40 pm

Perfect role for Dyche with Biesla coming here.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:51 pm

He's going to announce that Leeds are in fact the true champions of Europe, regardless of Brexit.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:53 pm

Unfounded, according to this.

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/leeds-unite ... lsa-215817" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Would be bloody funny if he did walk though.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:54 pm

Billy_Bumface wrote:He’s announcing the Stoke team for Saturday.

Unashamedly stolen from Twitter.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:54 pm

Going back to Corrie to manage Rovers Return.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:00 pm

I'm not a Leeds fan, who is, but I hope he sticks 2 fingers up at the EFL and Derby. A pack of hypocritical *****.
Where he comes from it's normal practice, they didn't even try to deny it, why would they.
It's been going on in football for decades, only we being upright, honest English men, do it in disguise of walking the dog. I've never known anything get so blown out of proportion in ages, and it really pisses me off. All the problems in the modern day game, and they want to make an issue of this.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Billy Balfour » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:03 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:Where he comes from it's normal practice, .
Oh well. That's alright then.
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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Claretincraven » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:25 pm

Press conference under way.
He has admitted to spying on training sessions of every Club they have played so far this season.
This might end up messy.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Billy Balfour » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:30 pm

He's getting their dirt out in public all in one go, instead of the drip-drip effect. Sometimes it not the actual scandal that screws you over - it's the cover up.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:40 pm

Claretincraven wrote:Press conference under way.
He has admitted to spying on training sessions of every Club they have played so far this season.
This might end up messy.
Haha good effort.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:41 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:He's getting their dirt out in public all in one go, instead of the drip-drip effect. Sometimes it not the actual scandal that screws you over - it's the cover up.
Watergate style :D

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:41 pm

Fair play to him. Who cares. Any advantage you can get. It goes on. At least he hasnt denied it.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Billy Balfour » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:48 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:At least he hasnt denied it.
He's learnt the lessons of history.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:54 pm

Personally think its fantastic. The attention to detail he has gone to is why Leeds after 20 years in decline are on the way up. Not through big money like fulham and wolves. But more like us a very good manager who leaves no stone unturned.
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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Winstonswhite » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:58 pm

It is the biggest storm in a teacup I’ve heard in a long time. What’s wrong with finding out how an oppositions team trains, tactics etc etc. Managers should know everything about who they are about to play.

To be completely honest I’d go as far to say I’d be ****** off if Dyche didn’t know which of the other teams players are circumcised
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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Socrates » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:04 pm

It’s way, way, way better than that.

Lampard got ****** off with a guy at a fence.

Bielsa has been talking for 30 minutes plus about what he’s found out from watching over 300 hours of Derby footage. What formations they play and how often they play them, why they change formation, their set pieces, literally every single tactic ever.

Nobody ever needs to scout them again. The whole world can access that information now.

Don’t mess with Bielsa. What a guy.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:06 pm

He knows more about Frank Lampards Derby than Frank Lampard.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by LeadBelly » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:07 pm

Sun Tzu, he say: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Socrates » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:08 pm

I really like Lampard but I can imagine him crying at this, just utterly bewildered at what is happening to him and frustrated at being unable to stop it.

Pep called him the most thorough manager in the world. I think we’re seeing that.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:16 pm

LeadBelly wrote:Sun Tzu, he say: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
The art of war. Brilliant.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:17 pm

Socrates wrote:I really like Lampard but I can imagine him crying at this, just utterly bewildered at what is happening to him and frustrated at being unable to stop it.

Pep called him the most thorough manager in the world. I think we’re seeing that.
Ditto. And i hope he becomes a good manager. This could actually be an excellent early lesson for him.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by conyoviejo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:21 pm

WOW,what a manager.. He knows the ins and outs of a fart from the opposition.. Top man..

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by bfccrazy » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:02 pm

conyoviejo wrote:WOW,what a manager.. He knows the ins and outs of a fart from the opposition.. Top man..
Apparently at his interview for the Leeds job they asked him to what he knew of the Chanpionship.

“Pick any club...”
..... ‘Burton’

He then got out a dossier which broke down what formation Burton played every game last season :lol:
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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:44 pm

Don't see what all the fuss is about tbh. One thing for sure it ensures the Leeds crowd will be even more behind Bielsa and the team now. Can't see them screwing it up this year unfortunately!

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by SGr » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:52 pm

Top top class from Bielsa. Managed to make being caught spying on training sessions look insignificant whilst simulaneously exposing Lampard massively.

Derby push for the EFL to take action against Leeds, so Bielsa’s response is basically to hand everyone (including their rivals) a complete dossier on their tactics and set up for free. Sensational.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:19 pm

Absolutely fantastic, I think I like this chap.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by agreenwood » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:51 am

Clearly a talented manager, but you could argue his greatest talent has been creating a reputation as being a “genius” despite having a managerial record that is probably bettered by a large number of coaches most of the world will never talk about.

If Wiki is accurate he’s has 6 jobs in the last ten years and, outside of Argentinian domestic football, has never won a thing.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:02 am

agreenwood wrote:Clearly a talented manager, but you could argue his greatest talent has been creating a reputation as being a “genius” despite having a managerial record that is probably bettered by a large number of coaches most of the world will never talk about.

If Wiki is accurate he’s has 6 jobs in the last ten years and, outside of Argentinian domestic football, has never won a thing.
That doesn't matter to the Leeds fans who think that he is yet another Messiah! We are Leeds, we are top of the League is all that matters to them at the moment but they still have 21 matches to play so anything is possible. Nothing is ever guaranteed in the Championship, although they should make the play-offs if they do not get automatic promotion and they can play some good stuff when it all comes together.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:22 am

Stan Collymore says they should be relegated to the conference league.. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by agreenwood » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:31 am

He’s clearly able to get his players to do great things. In that respect he’s an elite coach.

On the flip-side, successes appear short-lived and limited to an appealing style of play, rather than honours.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by NottsClaret » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:41 am

I've only seen Leeds a couple of times this year, despite the wall to wall coverage of them. Got to say the football they played was pretty amazing, really trusts the youngsters too. Fair do's to him.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:10 am

SGr wrote:Top top class from Bielsa. Managed to make being caught spying on training sessions look insignificant whilst simulaneously exposing Lampard massively.

Derby push for the EFL to take action against Leeds, so Bielsa’s response is basically to hand everyone (including their rivals) a complete dossier on their tactics and set up for free. Sensational.
Not only that but he has basically told every other team in the league that he knows everything about them. He may well have won the psychological battle with all of them in one go.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:23 am

Got to admit, he's one deeply impressive football manager.

I can see why Leeds fans have taken him in as their Messiah (version 234.89 but still)

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:51 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:Not only that but he has basically told every other team in the league that he knows everything about them. He may well have won the psychological battle with all of them in one go.
Absolutely agree

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by Spijed » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:55 am

Be interesting how he goes about spying in the Prem where the bigger clubs have much tighter security.

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Re: Bielsa Presser at 5pm

Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:04 pm

I remember when he was Chile manager (I follow their national side) he was an absolute nut. I wanted him as England boss I think I even put it on here before Southgate. He would stay up all night watching video after video and his knowledge really is second to none. It's no surprise he is doing so well. The downside is he is unpredictable so may not stay long but then again it wouldn't be Bielsa.

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