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Gutted, but...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:07 pm

Absolutely devastated with that. Especially a late goal to make it 2-2 from 2-0 two years in a row.

BUT, and despite results of those around is – in context it’s a huge result! A point we realistically didn’t expect to get.

Our front two both work well and score again.
Heaton STILL unbeaten and has another excellent game.
Cardiff lose – probably the most important result of those below us.
We probably now only need 10 or 11 points which are certainly achievable.
We send out a message that we are back (in the league).

Saturday is HUGE. Beat them and we aren’t far off. The late goal may fire us up even more.

Devastated not to win. But it shows there is nowhere we should fear going in this league.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tim_noone » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:11 pm

Wayne kers!! Cost me a few quid. Fergie time..

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tim_noone » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:12 pm

Wayne kers!! Cost me a few quid. Fergie time..

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tim_noone » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:13 pm

Wayne kers!! Cost me a few quid. Fergie time..

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Rileybobs » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:20 pm

Makes one wonder whether the decision to field a weakened team at weekend paid off.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Dyched » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:20 pm

tim_noone wrote:Wayne kers!! Cost me a few quid. Fergie time..


We heard you the first time

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby whiffa » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:21 pm

Hendrick should never have grabbed him, just gave him the option to go down like he'd been shot.
Unlucky with the rebound for their second.
Heaton was immense.
A good point in the end, but somehow it feels like a defeat.
On to the next one.
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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Dyched » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:25 pm

Played well. Tarks/Heaton superb. Only downside are the subs yet again. McNeil was knackered at 50 mins. We desperately needed fresh legs up top in the last 10 mins.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby BurnleyFC » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:26 pm

Gutted too, but considering everybody is supposed to be “Dyche fit,” we don’t half concede a lot of goals at the end of games.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tim_noone » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:26 pm

Dyched wrote:We heard you the first time

My mob was bouncing off the walls...sorry!
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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:27 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Makes one wonder whether the decision to field a weakened team at weekend paid off.

Not really. How did the so called unbeatable Man City do with their rested FIRST eleven?

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby piston broke » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:28 pm

Still ticked off with moving Taylor more central and playing Hendrick at FB.
If we needed more cover centrally get Gibson on and leave your recognised FB against Young.
They just fed him until we cracked.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby jurek » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:28 pm

Gutted too!
Was watching the telly when a friend phoned to let us know we were 1-0
up and then checked later and we were 2-0 up!

Couldn't quite believe it but thought we'd got a win and then....
Didn't expect a repeat of last season so late on too.

But I suppose a point is more than I was expecting and just hope we can do the
business on Saturday against Southampton.

Still think Cardiff and Fulham will come with a push.
Cardiff sounded unlucky to lose at Arsenal and Fulham thumped in 4 against
Brighton after going 2-0 down.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tim_noone » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:29 pm

CRESTFALLEN!
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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby RingoMcCartney » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:30 pm

I'd have took a point with both hands at 8 o'clock , so gutted but nobody gave us a snow ball in hells chance. It's a great point and the unbeaten run goes on.

Heatons save, when he hadn't realised it was offside was out of this bloody world. He had no right to get to it. But fair play to Tom!
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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Ric_C » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:30 pm

Funny game football. Currently feeling sick, with the gnawing feeling that we’ve blown another chance to win at Old Trafford.

BUT Cardiff are effectively 2 wins away from us now. Every point is vital.

Keep playing as we are and we’ll be fine.
5 unbeaten in the league

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:30 pm

tim_noone wrote:CRESTFALLEN!

You can say that again.


And again!

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby SGr » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:31 pm

Whilst all this is going on, RingoMcBrexit is still ranting on the amendment thread. Lol.
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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Rileybobs » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:31 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Not really. How did the so called unbeatable Man City do with their rested FIRST eleven?


Considering how the team tired in the last 15 minutes is it not conceivable that a more exerting game on Saturday with our key players getting more game time could have led to a much more leggy performance today?

Dyche’s decision has been vindicated, clearly, if you don’t want to admit it then that makes you look a bit silly.

And who said Man City were unbeatable?
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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tim_noone » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:33 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Considering how the team tired in the last 15 minutes is it not conceivable that a more exerting game on Saturday with our key players getting more game time could have led to a much more leggy performance today?

Dyche’s decision has been vindicated, clearly, if you don’t want to admit it then that makes you look a bit silly.

And who said Man City were unbeatable?

Practically everybody :roll:

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Steve1956 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:34 pm

A point not one of us thought we would get...well played boys

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Rileybobs » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:35 pm

tim_noone wrote:Practically everybody :roll:


I’d love to see a quote from somebody claiming that. It would be a pretty daft thing to claim as they had already lost 3 league games before tonight.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tim_noone » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:35 pm

Steve1956 wrote:A point not one of us thought we would get...well played boys

Erm... Sorry Steve I had us at 10/1 to win.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Steve1956 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:36 pm

tim_noone wrote:Erm... Sorry Steve I had us at 10/1 to win.

Well played Timmy...hard cheese fella :lol:

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Bosscat » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:37 pm

Come on you Clarets...

Yes am gutted we couldn't hang on but proud of our battlers.....
Jeff shouldn't have had his arm on Lindegards shoulder to give the penalty but hey ho ...

Proud to be a Premier League Claret

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby CombatClaret » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:38 pm

Given the game it will always feel like 2 points lost rather than one gained.
But it's a point not many predicted and shows we can still go toe to toe with the big boys and get the odd point on the way.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tim_noone » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:38 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I’d love to see a quote from somebody claiming that. It would be a pretty daft thing to claim as they had already lost 3 league games before tonight.

Cricketfield for starters. :?

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:45 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Considering how the team tired in the last 15 minutes is it not conceivable that a more exerting game on Saturday with our key players getting more game time could have led to a much more leggy performance today?

Dyche’s decision has been vindicated, clearly, if you don’t want to admit it then that makes you look a bit silly.

And who said Man City were unbeatable?

But 500m man city also rested players - and lost against a struggling newcastle.

Had City won at a canter you may have a point. But they didnt. They lost. And they rested players. And they have far better players than us.

We got the exact same result last season in the exact same way having played Spurs 3 days earlier with the exact same side (except Wood was replaced by Barnes).

If you don’t want to admit that rotating was clearly irrelevant AND that we could have taken Saturday more seriously then that makes you look a bit silly. ;)
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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby bfccrazy » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:47 pm

Dyched wrote:Played well. Tarks/Heaton superb. Only downside are the subs yet again. McNeil was knackered at 50 mins. We desperately needed fresh legs up top in the last 10 mins.


Looked goosed but with some games where a team is just defending a hell of a lot I think a substitution can go against a team.

Takes a few minutes to ge into the flow of a game where you’re being hammered and fresh players sometimes have a mistake in them.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:47 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
And who said Man City were unbeatable?


Some chap called Rileybobs for a start!
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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby DomBFC1882 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:47 pm

So proud tonight. Gutted for the lads but they have no need to be. They made themselves and the town proud. UTC!!!

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby bfccrazy » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:49 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Some chap called Rileybobs for a start!


Brilliant :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Rileybobs » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:49 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:But 500m man city also rested players - and lost against a struggling newcastle.

Had City won at a canter you may have a point. But they didnt. They lost. And they rested players. And they have far better players than us.

We got the exact same result last season in the exact same way having played Spurs 3 days earlier with the exact same side (except Wood was replaced by Barnes).

If you don’t want to admit that rotating was clearly irrelevant AND that we could have taken Saturday more seriously then that makes you look a bit silly. ;)


Maybe City would have been a bit fresher tonight had they rested more players against us. In any case I don’t really care about Manchester City. I’m talking about Burnley and our small squad which has been heavily impacted by injuries. I think it’s clear that by resting a few of our key players we were able to compete better today.

Edit - worth noting that Solskjaer was saying this week that he would never sacrifice a Cup game for league points. Could it be that their efforts at weekend contributed to their dropped points tonight. The case is building.
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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Rileybobs » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:52 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Some chap called Rileybobs for a start!


You look a bit daft quoting a post where I definitely don’t say that Man City are unbeatable before claiming that I do. In fact you look like a liar but we already know that from your other posts.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby bfcjg » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:54 pm

You have to consider the quality and fitness of the opposition ,anyway enough about the ref.Man U are not bad and lets face it they are one of the elite clubs in the world so not a bad point.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tiger76 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:57 pm

As long as we bag 3 points on Saturday this is a vital point towards survival,credit to Utd a month ago we would have seen that game out,but Ole has instilled spirit in them.Shame about Newcastle and Fulham's results but we can only take care of our business,11/15 now with some winnable games around the corner,Barnes and Wood forming a great partnership again,just hope these late goals by Tottenham.Man U,and the dodgy offside call at Watford don't cost us dear in May.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:59 pm

Rileybobs wrote:You look a bit daft quoting a post where I definitely don’t say that Man City are unbeatable before claiming that I do. In fact you look like a liar but we already know that from your other posts.

So what part of 'we would have lost that game no matter what' says that we could have beat them? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Dyched » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:59 pm

bfccrazy wrote:Looked goosed but with some games where a team is just defending a hell of a lot I think a substitution can go against a team.

Takes a few minutes to ge into the flow of a game where you’re being hammered and fresh players sometimes have a mistake in them.


Yeah I get that. Just thought Vydra up top would have given their defence a little less time on the ball once we belted it back to them.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Rileybobs » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:01 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:So what part of 'we would have lost that game no matter what' says that we could have beat them? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


What part of ‘we would have lost that game no matter what team we played’ is in any way saying they’re unbeatable? I can’t believe I’m actually having to argue this.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Foulthrow » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:04 pm

Tonight was the kind of night that sends you down. 4 points lost in injury time in the last two games. Our rivals pulling off “miracle” wins. Not looking good. Which is a real shame given how well we’ve played recently.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:04 pm

Rileybobs wrote:What part of ‘we would have lost that game no matter what team we played’ is in any way saying they’re unbeatable? I can’t believe I’m actually having to argue this.


Just give up. You said we wouldnt beat them no matter what. :lol:

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Spijed » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:06 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Tonight was the kind of night that sends you down. 4 points lost in injury time in the last two games. Our rivals pulling off “miracle” wins. Not looking good. Which is a real shame given how well we’ve played recently.


Nah

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Rileybobs » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:07 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Just give up. You said we wouldnt beat them no matter what. :lol:


I will give up because it’s like arguing with a child. My claim that we wouldn’t have beaten them had we played a stronger team is not me saying they are unbeatable. They are clearly not unbeatable. Barcelona aren’t unbeatable but we wouldn’t beat them at the Camp Nou no matter which 11 of our players we put our.

Hopefully you can comprehend that the two claims are different, and not even subtly.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:09 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I will give up because it’s like arguing with a child. My claim that we wouldn’t have beaten them had we played a stronger team is not me saying they are unbeatable. They are clearly not unbeatable. Barcelona aren’t unbeatable but we wouldn’t beat them at the Camp Nou no matter which 11 of our players we put our.

Hopefully you can comprehend that the two claims are different, and not even subtly.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby bfccrazy » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:12 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I will give up because it’s like arguing with a child. My claim that we wouldn’t have beaten them had we played a stronger team is not me saying they are unbeatable. They are clearly not unbeatable. Barcelona aren’t unbeatable but we wouldn’t beat them at the Camp Nou no matter which 11 of our players we put our.

Hopefully you can comprehend that the two claims are different, and not even subtly.


Us playing any team against them and not being able to win - means you think they’re unbeatable for us .... no matter who we played against them.

The fact that Barca could beat them is irrelevant as we’re not Barca.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Paul Waine » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:15 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Edit - worth noting that Solskjaer was saying this week that he would never sacrifice a Cup game for league points. Could it be that their efforts at weekend contributed to their dropped points tonight. The case is building.


I believe Solskjaer was just brushing up his job application - comparing his approach with some other guy who may be interested in the job.

Tonight - the ups and downs of football - brilliant, ecstatic when it ends in a win - feels like a loss when we end with 1 point - feels just the same if we come away with nothing.

Pretty sure we'd all have taken 1 point at 8pm. That's how I'll get to sleep tonight. The point we won, rather than the points win nearly won.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby Rileybobs » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:18 pm

bfccrazy wrote:Us playing any team against them and not being able to win - means you think they’re unbeatable for us .... no matter who we played against them.

The fact that Barca could beat them is irrelevant as we’re not Barca.


Firstly, the claim was that I said Man City were unbeatable. Not ‘unbeatable for us’, stop moving the goal posts. I said that Man City would have beaten us no matter what team we put out, and based on the last few times we’ve been there, and been hammered, I’ll stand by that. There’s no evidence or statistics to prove that my prediction is wrong. The bookies offering 40-1 for us to win backs that up.

I used winning at the Camp Nou as another example of a team who aren’t unbeatable, but who we also wouldn’t beat.

It’s really not difficult to comprehend so I’m not going to waste any more of my time explaining a simple point which has been clearly laid out.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:18 am

Rileybobs wrote:Firstly, the claim was that I said Man City were unbeatable. Not ‘unbeatable for us’, stop moving the goal posts. I said that Man City would have beaten us no matter what team we put out, and based on the last few times we’ve been there, and been hammered, I’ll stand by that. There’s no evidence or statistics to prove that my prediction is wrong. The bookies offering 40-1 for us to win backs that up.

I used winning at the Camp Nou as another example of a team who aren’t unbeatable, but who we also wouldn’t beat.

It’s really not difficult to comprehend so I’m not going to waste any more of my time explaining a simple point which has been clearly laid out.

No matter how you word it, youre wrong.

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby tim_noone » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:24 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:No matter how you word it, youre wrong.

How you get people nibbling on your worm leaves me speechless :?

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Re: Gutted, but...

Postby BurnleyFC » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:14 am

There’s some fine examples of backtracking on this thread.

Bravo!
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