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Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:39 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
IndigoLake wrote:Dyche on Crouch: "We know he's a good character"
I wonder if he’ll get Steven Reid’s spot in the changing rooms.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:40 pm
by summitclaret
Holtyclaret wrote:He’s a bloody stop gap until the summer. Stop whinging, it’ll be fun and we’re no worse off. Winge away at the end of summer UTC
And if wood and/or ash get injured. Who plays 90 mins?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:41 pm
by DCWat
Tinribs wrote:Because Vokes wanted to leave so do you hold on to aunhappy players who’s value will keep going down ?
Crouch takes Vokes place on the bench and I’d rather have crouch in a 15 minute cameo than Vokes
Why? What if we need Crouch for more than cameos?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:42 pm
by IndigoLake
Bordeauxclaret wrote:I wonder if he’ll get Steven Reid’s spot in the changing rooms.
My sources tell me that he does and that it's the one next to Walters.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:43 pm
by summitclaret
Ffs. We get a other 100m plus if we stay up. Why take the risk and why pander to multi millionaires even as likeable as Sam.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:44 pm
by jrgbfc
Crouch is British, experienced and a good sort for the dressing room. Seem to the main criteria for Dyche when it comes to new signings unfortunately.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:44 pm
by BennyD
I remember reading the same sort of sh!t when we signed Joey Barton. Give the man a chance before you start pounding him.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:45 pm
by SalisburyClaret
I’d like to welcome the 3rd highest England goal scorer to the club
He’ll be a big hit with the fans - just ignore the ageists and heightists

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:45 pm
by piston broke
Vokes has had so little playing time recently has he fell out with SD?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:45 pm
by summitclaret
jrgbfc wrote:Crouch is British, experienced and a good sort for the dressing room. Seem to the main criteria for Dyche when it comes to new signings unfortunately.
Peter kay would be good for the dressing room.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:46 pm
by willsclarets
if one of Barnes or Wood get injured, which they might very well not...

We'll play Vydra off Wood/Barnes, or we'll play 451, or we'll start with Crouch.

By the way, why is everyone so sure that Crouch can't play 70+ minutes. Or a whole game even?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:47 pm
by Rick_Muller
summitclaret wrote:Peter kay would be good for the dressing room.
I thought he was dead...? (dying...?) ;)

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:48 pm
by DCWat
How many times has he done so in the Championship, this season?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:48 pm
by boatshed bill
willsclarets wrote: By the way, why is everyone so sure that Crouch can't play 70+ minutes. Or a whole game even?
Averaging about 20 mins per game in the Championship

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:48 pm
by claptrappers_union
willsclarets wrote:if one of Barnes or Wood get injured, which they might very well not...

We'll play Vydra off Wood/Barnes, or we'll play 451, or we'll start with Crouch.

By the way, why is everyone so sure that Crouch can't play 70+ minutes. Or a whole game even?
Because they make something up in their heads, and what they make up annoys them, so they want it to be true

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:49 pm
by willsclarets
boatshed bill wrote:Averaging about 20 mins per game in the Championship
Doesn't mean he's not able to play longer.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:50 pm
by NL Claret
It's been a difficult time for some UTC posters having been on an unbeaten PL run of 5 games including a point against the form side. At last the signing of Peter Crouch has got them out of the woodwork, passwords reset and now the opportunity to get stuck into the club and Dyche.

Normal service resumed.

Will Crouch be more hated than Hart? Tough call.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:50 pm
by Conroy92
All these people banging on about 10 million being good money for Vokes. Its 2019, January transfer window,he's only 29 and in his last 2 championship seasons has had an excellent return. He is a top championship player and should be commanding a bigger fee, look at Ross McCormack, went to Fulham for 11 million 5 years ago, back to the championship. 10 million is low for Vokes. 12-15 in this market is a fairer price and would go halfway to a first team striker rather than a bench warmer.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:51 pm
by vinrogue
We could pay £30/40 million for a striker but the wages a £30/40 million striker would demand would just screw the club, Stoke. Swansea and West Brom eventually gave in and started to sign players who commanded huge wages and look where that eventually got them. I wouldn't want to have the responsibility of the players wage and transfer budget, it's not a game where if you are wrong you can just reboot. Bought Morata £70 million sold him for £45million months later, bought Fred for £52 million didn't fit in so he isn't playing, bought nobody but rebuilt the stadium borrowed Wembley and got 29,000 on v Watford main striker injured still not bought anybody and still in the Champions League......swapped our current talented bench warmer for another talented bench warmer and got a shed load of Wonga happy days ;)

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:51 pm
by occ-claret
I know it won't excite everyone but a deal to the summer with his experience is good business. He'll know he won't start games but could provide vital headers in the last mins of the game. I enjoyed vokes spell at the club and he has been a vital player but crouch will win more headers.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:58 pm
by dsr
The last two years' leading scorers in the Championship[ went for about £15m each. They were both younger, with more development potential. I wouldn't expect Vokes aged 29 to match their price.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:59 pm
by Grimsby Claret
Big Sam a crowd favourite, At 39 and playing as a striker Peter crouch cant expect to ever start a game for us.
Super Sub we can only hope.
I would have been happy to see Vydra go for 9 million plus Crouch

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:00 pm
by Vino blanco
Just seen Dyche interview on SSN. He says he knows all about Crouch's minutes spent on the pitch and the number of runs he has made this season. He then goes on to compare him to Michael Duff as a Burnley player. Well, that fills me with confidence in our recruitment strategy.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:02 pm
by dpinsussex
Let's not forget Graham Alexander was 38 years and 6 months when he last scored for Burnley in the premier league.
Don't recall much whingeing about him :)

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:02 pm
by scouseclaret
Tall Paul wrote:Maybe they haven't done it for the money, they've probably done it because they didn't want to stand in Vokes' way when he wants to go and play first team football for Stoke.

Really? I dare say Che Adams would like to move to a Premier League club, but Birmingham are telling him he can’t. We keep getting told how difficult it is to do deals in January, but apparently not if we’re selling it’s not.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:03 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Duff played up front against Reading once.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:03 pm
by scouseclaret
... and I love this quote:

"I've never been too bothered about people's age, we had Michael Duff, a fantastic servant to this club, and also for myself, at 37, in the Premier League, so that's not an issue.”

Peter Crouch is 38, by which time even Duffer had called it a day!

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:04 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
We must have a lot of faith in neither Wood or Barnes not picking up an injury or suspension before the season is out!

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:04 pm
by Reckoner
Sam wanted to play, and he deserves it. Really disappointed to see him go but I think this Crouch is a decent option in the circumstances.

Lets face it the majority of you cry and moan because you like to cry and moan. Doesn't matter what is happening at any given time.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:06 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Reckoner wrote:Sam wanted to play, and he deserves it. Really disappointed to see him go but I think this Crouch is a decent option in the circumstances.

Lets face it the majority of you cry and moan because you like to cry and moan. Doesn't matter what is happening at any given time.
Yet at every other club it is the club that say you arent going anywhere....except us that see pound signs.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:06 pm
by dpinsussex
scouseclaret wrote:... and I love this quote:

"I've never been too bothered about people's age, we had Michael Duff, a fantastic servant to this club, and also for myself, at 37, in the Premier League, so that's not an issue.”

Peter Crouch is 38, by which time even Duffer had called it a day!
Graham Alexander hadn't though.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:07 pm
by jrgbfc
At least it means we have no option but to sign a striker this summer. Just about the only positive I can find!

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:11 pm
by jojomk1
The SSN reporter at the training ground also said Dyche can remember playing against him :oops:

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:14 pm
by DCWat
jrgbfc wrote:At least it means we have no option but to sign a striker this summer. Just about the only positive I can find!
Don’t bloody bank on it :D

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:16 pm
by Tall Paul
scouseclaret wrote:Really? I dare say Che Adams would like to move to a Premier League club, but Birmingham are telling him he can’t. We keep getting told how difficult it is to do deals in January, but apparently not if we’re selling it’s not.
Completely different situations.

Adams is their best player and a first team regular.

Vokes has given us 8 years' service, is no longer first choice and we have been able to replace him.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:16 pm
by Reckoner
Cleveleys_claret wrote:Yet at every other club it is the club that say you arent going anywhere....except us that see pound signs.
Insinuating that the club / board are just acting for their own personal financial gain just weakens any argument you might make about the detriment to the team from Vokes leaving. I think Vokes has been a great player but he has also been bitterly disappointed at not playing. We'll never know the full story about any of the transfer discussions (in or out) and on the face of things you may disagree with some decisions by the club / board. But they deserve trust and respect for everything they have achieved recently, not childish insinuations.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:17 pm
by willsclarets
Age is but a number. He's never relied on pace, has a good touch and dangerous in the box. Welcome to Burnley Crouchy, can't wait to see you wear claret and blue. The more I think about this signing the better it gets #legendinthemaking

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:18 pm
by jrgbfc
DCWat wrote:Don’t bloody bank on it :D
Suppose we could always offer Walters a 12 month contract extension once he proves his fitness. Be like a new signing :lol:

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:20 pm
by DCWat
willsclarets wrote:Age is but a number. He's never relied on pace, has a good touch and dangerous in the box. Welcome to Burnley Crouchy, can't wait to see you wear claret and blue. The more I think about this signing the better it gets #legendinthemaking
In what way has it got better, the more you have thought about it? Not a criticism, just curious as to your thinking.

I like Crouch, decent, vastly underrated player and always comes across as a likeable bloke but I’m struggling to see much sense in this signing and feel it’s an unnecessary risk.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:20 pm
by bobinho
Panic not folks...

I have just checked the sticky for January transfer dealings. Still says Burnley 0.

Phew...

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:22 pm
by Cubanclaret
Always felt he was a little underrated actually. Welcome to the club Peter.
That said, disappointing we haven’t pushed the boat out for Adams. He has a good run to the end of the season and he’ll probably end up at Wolves or Leeds or somewhere. IF (and it is an ‘if’ as none of us really knows) Nixon was right that £12m would have done it, I think its one we might regret in future months.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:25 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Reckoner wrote:Insinuating that the club / board are just acting for their own personal financial gain just weakens any argument you might make about the detriment to the team from Vokes leaving. I think Vokes has been a great player but he has also been bitterly disappointed at not playing. We'll never know the full story about any of the transfer discussions (in or out) and on the face of things you may disagree with some decisions by the club / board. But they deserve trust and respect for everything they have achieved recently, not childish insinuations.
What else would you call it? We have sold a player at the first opportunity. Every board room in the land must laugh when dealing with us.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:26 pm
by kentonclaret
Posters rub their hands with glee at the "extra funds" coming from the Vokes/Crouch deal but fear not it won't be frittered away on Che Adams. Far too young and promising and Birmingham want a premium for their star player.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:27 pm
by willsclarets
Nothing more than I just like the thought of Peter Crouch playing for Burnley, it's got that cult hero potential which is more interesting than your average signing. And I just don't subscribe to the catastrophe this is supposed to be. I accepted the fact that we were unlikely to do business in January, and that our new recruitment strategy would be implemented in the summer in all likelihood. We're playing well, and I think we have enough to stay up. Four strikers is enough including Crouch in my opinion.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:28 pm
by bobinho
If this is real, and I hope it isn’t, I mean I REALLY hope it isn’t, then I would have to question what we are really after here.

This is utterly bizarre.

Please someone tell me CFC started this...

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:30 pm
by summitclaret
Any bets he fails the medical like Clucus. Be just like us the let sam go the minute before.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:31 pm
by SGr
bobinho wrote:If this is real, and I hope it isn’t, I mean I REALLY hope it isn’t, then I would have to question what we are really after here.

This is utterly bizarre.

Please someone tell me CFC started this...
“Youth” and “Technical ability” get further and further away from the transfer requirements every window :(

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:31 pm
by boatshed bill
willsclarets wrote:Doesn't mean he's not able to play longer.
It says exactly what it says, assuming nothing.
Here's another PC stat: he's only completed one 90minute game this season.

The funny thing is that whilst I'm not over the moon I can see why this is happening, it gives Sam Vokes (who has been a fantastic servant) the move he wants, and we get a bench-warmer in.
I just think we need a striker to compete with Barnes or Wood for a starting place; in SD's own words, competition for the shirt lifts performances

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:31 pm
by Tall Paul
Cleveleys_claret wrote:What else would you call it? We have sold a player at the first opportunity. Every board room in the land must laugh when dealing with us.
How do you know it was the first opportunity?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:33 pm
by Reckoner
This isn't the first opportunity. Its the first time we've had an offer since Sam has fallen down the pecking order, and more importantly at a time when Sam wanted to leave. Previously he hasn't.

Somebody was on here the other day suggesting our transfer business was frugal because the directors like the free sandwiches and to have regular decorating in the lounges. I'd put your argument in that sort of basket.