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Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:35 pm
by jrgbfc
boatshed bill wrote:It says exactly what it says, assuming nothing.
Here's another PC stat: he's only completed one 90minute game this season.

The funny thing is that whilst I'm not over the moon I can see why this is happening, it gives Sam Vokes (who has been a fantastic servant) the move he wants, and we get a bench-warmer in.
I just think we need a striker to compete with Barnes or Wood for a starting place; in SD's own words, competition for the shirt lifts performances
But Barnes and Wood will know full well that Crouch and Vydra aren't serious competition for the shirt. Vydra is massively out of favour and Crouch will take over the role of our token 83rd minute substitute.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:35 pm
by joey13
BennyD wrote:I remember reading the same sort of sh!t when we signed Joey Barton. Give the man a chance before you start pounding him.
Completely different to Barton , this signing is a bloody disgrace

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:38 pm
by willsclarets
joey13 wrote:Completely different to Barton , this signing is a bloody disgrace
A disgrace? Really? I'm amazed at how upset people are at this.

I'm going to open a pop-up counselling service in town after every transfer window, i'll make a killing.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:38 pm
by Vino blanco
I was happy when we signed Barton. I think signing Crouch is an embarrassment I hope I'm proved wrong, but I don't think I will be.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:40 pm
by joey13
willsclarets wrote:A disgrace? Really? I'm amazed at how upset people are at this.

I'm going to open a pop-up counselling service in town after every transfer window, i'll make a killing.
Yes a bloody disgrace

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:42 pm
by kentonclaret
In his press conference Dyche said they had all of the stats on Peter Crouch, minutes played and distances covered etc.

And they still went ahead and bloody signed him. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:43 pm
by TVC15
If we get Evans over the line then our dealings today are far from a disgrace.
If we don’t again nowhere near a disgrace but an extremely strange decision which I could only put down to being very confident we were going to get Evans.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:44 pm
by Tall Paul
Who's Evans?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:46 pm
by boatshed bill
jrgbfc wrote:But Barnes and Wood will know full well that Crouch and Vydra aren't serious competition for the shirt. Vydra is massively out of favour and Crouch will take over the role of our token 83rd minute substitute.
Exactly.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:51 pm
by Claretmatt4
Tall Paul wrote:Who's Evans?
Roy?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:52 pm
by kentonclaret
Just bizarre that Dyche mentions stats for minutes spent on pitch and distance covered for a player that has played a series of 10 minute substitute cameo appearances. Dyche also mentioned good fitness levels of Crouch even though 38 years old.

Get the Che Adams deal done although Birmingham board insist he will not be sold during this window.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:08 pm
by Healeywoodclaret
Never rated him. I'd much rather have kept Sam Vokes but I suspect Sam wanted to go for more regular football. Crouch is past it.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:10 pm
by Longsider
I took the plunge and had a look on the Stoke Forum. Fully expected to see us being ridiculed. Mixed feelings on getting Sam. They want young quick centre forward and feel Sam is a backward step. Losing Crouch I think this quote sums it up well. They can't see how he fits with us.



I am not sure how he fits in at Burnley? I don't get it? But he would be okay in a forward line with out and out pace, except for Crouchy

With a couple of speedsters up top ( ie not stoke) Crouchy would be a threat, because if you have to drop deep and you let in him into your penalty Box, he is hard to stop, especially in the air.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:15 pm
by claretabroad
I like this move. It's a short term signing that has quite a few positives. Our overall transfer strategy hasn't been particularly good over the last year but bringing in an experienced premier league player until the end of the season is one of our better moves.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:21 pm
by alwaysaclaret
jrgbfc wrote:At least it means we have no option but to sign a striker this summer. Just about the only positive I can find!
For god sake don't hold your breath, I'm not, chances are we'll go and sign a keeper.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:21 pm
by Spijed
Tall Paul wrote:Who's Evans?
Why didn't they ask Evans?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:38 pm
by boyyanno
I wonder if all those people that defended the club's transfer dealings will come out and admit they were wrong?

Having a further window like the last two will see us relegated. It won't hit us this season but unless we spend some serious money in the summer it will catch up with us next year no doubt. An ageing squad going backwards is very worrying.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:41 pm
by jrgbfc
Make no mistake if we do manage to stay up this season the summer is absolutely massive for us. We simply can't afford another complete balls up, and the same old tired excuses won't wash.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:43 pm
by Hibsclaret
jrgbfc wrote:Make no mistake if we do manage to stay up this season the summer is absolutely massive for us. We simply can't afford another complete balls up, and the same old tired excuses won't wash.
Cos it will have been such a balls up getting to Europe and then staying up again...

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:44 pm
by John Gayles Shoulder
joey13 wrote:Completely different to Barton , this signing is a bloody disgrace
Grow up ffs :lol: :lol:

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:46 pm
by jojomk1
claretabroad wrote:I like this move. It's a short term signing that has quite a few positives. Our overall transfer strategy hasn't been particularly good over the last year but bringing in an experienced premier league player until the end of the season is one of our better moves.
Just like Walters was two years ago ?

Lets try and get Joey back from Fleetwood to really get the clapping going

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:53 pm
by Belial
John Gayles Shoulder wrote:Grow up ffs :lol: :lol:
I think I'd rather have John Gayle back :)

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:53 pm
by ecc
A joke. And not a good one.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:55 pm
by boyyanno
Hibsclaret wrote:Cos it will have been such a balls up getting to Europe and then staying up again...
People like you don't get it at all. The point is you sign players not only for the present, but the future. Our squad is ageing and the quality is spread thin.

We've just added a striker to our list that we will need in Summer because Crouch won't be here beyond then. That's on top of the players we will want to replace or improve in the squad and the ones we haven't replaced before then.

People seem to forget that Dyche himself wanted more bodies, he's said it in his interviews. Despite that you trot out the well we finished in Europe last year as a "trump" card.

Just admit that the recruitment in the last two windows has been cack, it doesn't make you any less of a claret contrary to the belief on here.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:59 pm
by John Gayles Shoulder
boyyanno wrote:People like you don't get it at all. The point is you sign players not only for the present, but the future. Our squad is ageing and the quality is spread thin.

We've just added a striker to our list that we will need in Summer because Crouch won't be here beyond then. That's on top of the players we will want to replace or improve in the squad and the ones we haven't replaced before then.

People seem to forget that Dyche himself wanted more bodies, he's said it in his interviews. Despite that you trot out the well we finished in Europe last year as a "trump" card.

Just admit that the recruitment in the last two windows has been cack, it doesn't make you any less of a claret contrary to the belief on here.
It doesn't make you more of a claret to go completely ott with a Trump style tantrum either

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:01 pm
by thatdberight
They promised us a big signing. This is not what I expected.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:01 pm
by gawthorpe_view
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Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:03 pm
by boyyanno
John Gayles Shoulder wrote:It doesn't make you more of a claret to go completely ott with a Trump style tantrum either
No tantrum you oddity. I was using a football messageboard as a way to express my opinion on football, silly me.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:03 pm
by brexit
Reckon Crouch will get or assist in 4 or 5 goals this season.
On in the last 15 in on with Wood, late equalisers or last minute draws. Good option to have on the bench.
I can see the logic but then again unlike 90&% of this board I am an optimist and don't play Football Manager.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:05 pm
by jojomk1
Not sure which is more of a joke

The video or the actual signing

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:06 pm
by diamondpocket
gawthorpe_view wrote:Check out @BurnleyOfficial’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/BurnleyOfficial/sta ... 88773?s=09" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
hahaha

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:06 pm
by Tinribs
joey13 wrote:Idiots ! If you think Crouch is a good signing that firmly puts you in the idiot camp
And your an idiot if you think signing Crouch on a 14 game contract for free is a bad signing

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:08 pm
by diamondpocket
what is the suggestion he is only here until the Summer? What were his contract details at Stoke? How long left on his contract?
I can't imagine he has accepted to come here only until the end of this season if he is still so fit and healthy to be playing at the top level of English footy.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:09 pm
by jojomk1
Tinribs wrote:And your an idiot if you think signing Crouch on a 14 game contract for free is a bad signing
He's picking up a decent wedge for doing nothing

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:09 pm
by joey13
Tinribs wrote:And your an idiot if you think signing Crouch on a 14 game contract for free is a bad signing
Doh ! Do you think he’s playing for nothing , guaranteed he’ll be getting more than Vokes , weakening the squad what an effing joke

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:09 pm
by IanMcL
Vegas Claret wrote:if we are paying 3 million for a 37 year old then we must have more money than I previously though
As we have to pay Wolves 25% of any profit, it would have been better if it was £7m and nothing. Not sure Crouch can 've valued at £3m, anyway. £3 perhaps.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:12 pm
by BennyD
What if he scores the goal that keeps us? Would it still be a bad signing?

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:12 pm
by expoultryboy
Sam wanted first team football and at his age it would be wrong to deny him this . We needed a player in for the next few months with plenty of experience who could assist in keeping us up and hopefully crouch fits the bill . What we really need is back up / competition in midfield to Westwood and cork ie a Drinkwater/ allen type of player .

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:16 pm
by jojomk1
One of the top earners at Stoke so won't be coming to us for less than already on

Say £30k per week, so around £450k till mid May (though most footballers contracts seem to run until the 1st June)

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:27 pm
by randomclaret2
I thinks its actually 30th June and 31st July if out of contract and not fixed up with a new club.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:39 pm
by John Gayles Shoulder
boyyanno wrote:No tantrum you oddity. I was using a football messageboard as a way to express my opinion on football, silly me.
Not necessarily you, but others are. If you can have a pop at people not stressing out over the last couple of transfer windows, then I can do the same for those having a meltdown over this. Some of the reactions to this move have been genuinely embarrassing. Actual grown adults using words like 'disgrace' in relation to a transfer that most objective pundits are calling a no-brainer for all parties involved

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:45 pm
by Bigvince
Not the signing we expected or one that many approve of, but when he pulls on that claret shirt, I’ll support him!
Welcome aboard Peter

P.s hope you’ll bring your Mrs to all th home games

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:51 pm
by Jakubclaret
As long as he can persuade his mate Charlie Adams to join us in the summer I’m not bothered.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:02 am
by THEWELLERNUT70
Let's have it right.

Despite sitting on circa 50 -70 million quid we have somehow actually managed to weaken the squad (again)

That's some feat

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:12 am
by dsr
jojomk1 wrote:One of the top earners at Stoke so won't be coming to us for less than already on

Say £30k per week, so around £450k till mid May (though most footballers contracts seem to run until the 1st June)
If that's true, he'll be one of the lower paid members of the first team squad.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:19 am
by Chester Perry
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Let's have it right.

Despite sitting on circa 50 -70 million quid we have somehow actually managed to weaken the squad (again)

That's some feat
I would be very interested to know where you will find that kind of money - our accounts in recent years have shown cash positions edging up to just over £20m and I wouldn't expect it to be higher than £25m when we see the next ones in March. It is amazing how many confuse book profits with cash position.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:20 am
by tiger76
boyyanno wrote:People like you don't get it at all. The point is you sign players not only for the present, but the future. Our squad is ageing and the quality is spread thin.

We've just added a striker to our list that we will need in Summer because Crouch won't be here beyond then. That's on top of the players we will want to replace or improve in the squad and the ones we haven't replaced before then.

People seem to forget that Dyche himself wanted more bodies, he's said it in his interviews. Despite that you trot out the well we finished in Europe last year as a "trump" card.

Just admit that the recruitment in the last two windows has been cack, it doesn't make you any less of a claret contrary to the belief on here.
Spot on we are in danger of doing a Stoke/WBA,an ageing squad which will require a major overhaul in the summer,this in itself carries risks as these new signings will have to gel quickly and hit the ground running,if we survive this time it's doubtful the promoted teams,whoever they maybe will be as useless as Huddersfield or Fulham.

Midfield is the priority area for me,Defour,Brady and JBG are too fragile to rely on game in game out,which means we'll flog Cork,Westwood,Hendrick and McNeil till they drop.

Also we need an impact player up top,Vydra hasn't yet hit the heights we expected,Crouch won't be here,ditto Wells and Walters,Wood and Barnes is our best pairing but they can't be relied on for the whole season.

All the above is dependent on PL status being secured,in the event of relegation it's a whole different ball game.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:27 am
by dsr
tiger76 wrote:Midfield is the priority area for me,Defour,Brady and JBG are too fragile to rely on game in game out,which means we'll flog Cork,Westwood,Hendrick and McNeil till they drop.
You can't flog someone until he drops in a 38 game season.

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:43 am
by THEWELLERNUT70
Chester Perry wrote:I would be very interested to know where you will find that kind of money - our accounts in recent years have shown cash positions edging up to just over £20m and I wouldn't expect it to be higher than £25m when we see the next ones in March. It is amazing how many confuse book profits with cash position.


Now come on chester are you happy with our dealings considering our current position?

I know for a fact one of our former superpowers aint happy with things at the moment!

Re: Peter Crouch

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:08 am
by Vegas Claret
he does sound well up for it, we shall see, I just wish him the best

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