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So if I am understanding this correctly, the Chairman has another £7M on top of all those £££££££££££££££ we have not spent in previous windows and accruing interest, and we have gained a 38 years old has been who was not fit enough to get in to a championship side so we sell them a tried and tested striker who still had 2.5 years to run on a contract with us and gave us depth an options from the bench?
Please dont tell me we were confident on the Adams deal going through and we just couldn't wait to get the £7M in the bank so we bolted early and now its a mess.
Absolute farcical from a club in supposedly the best league in the world, and to be boot preach about a university of football for learning???
Please dont tell me we were confident on the Adams deal going through and we just couldn't wait to get the £7M in the bank so we bolted early and now its a mess.
Absolute farcical from a club in supposedly the best league in the world, and to be boot preach about a university of football for learning???
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Crouch has the most headed goals in PL history, to suggest that Vokes is a better header of the ball is laughableTVC15 wrote:Possibly but Sam was a better header of a ball than Crouch ever was.
Technically Crouch was a better play than Sam a few years ago but he’s shown so little in recent times this feels like a massive (and unnecessary) risk
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Not disagreeing but it's not like a Marnie situation, we all saw that one coming a mile off... I could understand fans going into meltdown over not getting another CM that January, but it is hardly the same. Pater Crouch is the same alternative as Vokes. SD clearly see's Sam as a "change" rather than a starter.boatshed bill wrote:I can see that regarding Sam wanting to leave. But what if Wood gets injured? We could do with another 90 minute player, that's what we will be losing.
I'd like to see another couple happen but I don't really see a problem for us.
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Not forgetting the one and only fantastic Leon CortVegas Claret wrote:Walters
Crouch
Stoke must love us
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Just seen Sean Dyche whinging about the business model at the club on Sky. FFS give it a rest, the lickle ole Burnley mantra is an embarrassing load of old tosh. For a club to have made so much income over the last few years, spent much less than most teams, pay amongst the lowest wages it just doesn't wash anymore. We know we can't compete with the rich kids of the division but we are not looking to buy the players costing megabucks. Can someone explain how it is we were happy to pay £25m + for JayRod a few months ago yet are now once again pleading hard up. We seem happy enough to continually buy bench warmers who do nothing for us. There was allegedly quite a large transfer budget in the summer which we didn't spend so what has happened to it. Let me guess the transfer window in the summer will be really difficult and we just cannot buy players. Boring , repetitive and gut wrenching. I think more and more fans are becoming sick of hearing it.
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What has Dyche actually said?LaLigaClaret wrote:Just seen Sean Dyche whinging about the business model at the club on Sky. FFS give it a rest, the lickle ole Burnley mantra is an embarrassing load of old tosh. For a club to have made so much income over the last few years, spent much less than most teams, pay amongst the lowest wages it just doesn't wash anymore. We know we can't compete with the rich kids of the division but we are not looking to buy the players costing megabucks. Can someone explain how it is we were happy to pay £25m + for JayRod a few months ago yet are now once again pleading hard up. We seem happy enough to continually buy bench warmers who do nothing for us. There was allegedly quite a large transfer budget in the summer which we didn't spend so what has happened to it. Let me guess the transfer window in the summer will be really difficult and we just cannot buy players. Boring , repetitive and gut wrenching. I think more and more fans are becoming sick of hearing it.
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Yes !Tall Paul wrote:Even though Crouch has the record for the most headed goals in a PL season?
Tbf he has played a lot more games in the premier league and given who he was playing for he has had a lot more opportunities.
Just does not seem to get his feet off the ground that much.
Maybe Crouch was a better header of the ball than Sam a few years ago - i’ll admit I may be wrong on that. I wasn’t just referring to goals scored either.
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Most likely one of the oldest outfield players to play in the premiership nowTall Paul wrote:Even though Crouch has the record for the most headed goals in a PL season?
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Teddy Sheringham scored in his 40’s in the PL
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The only explanation for another **** window is that we are preparing the wage bill for the championship. Pushing the boat back in and mending the ranch fencing.
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Why would we be doing this? We aren’t going to go down playing the way we are so this doesn’t make sense. I could understand if we were cut adrift like Huddersfield.summitclaret wrote:The only explanation for another **** window is that we are preparing the wage bill for the championship. Pushing the boat back in and mending the ranch fencing.
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I don't know why but we certainly gave not bought the insurance. The biggest risks are in midfield, but Sam should not be going atm.
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I’m going to fall short the drama queen reaction but if Crouch is our only signing as seems likely that is extremely disappointing to say the least. As it happens I understand the transfer Vokes wants more game time and Crouch gives us a similar option off the bench. I would have expected another on top of this though, unless of course Vydra is deemed ready at last to step up for more minutes. I know it is difficult and would rather go with what we have rather than pay through the roof but i’m still disappointed. Hopefully Benson is deemed good enough for minutes off the bench as well can’t really think of any Strikers who looks ready though should we have a disaster and lose 1 or 2 to injury.
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If Barnes or Wood gets injured were doomed its as simple as that. Crouch might nick a goal or two but that's if he can last 90 minutes and that's not just good enough. He might be experienced and good in the air but he is even slower than Vokes. This is just too big a risk to take.
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I think maybe some of you are over reacting a little
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Hugely dissapointed
With 3 years on his contract and cash in the bank we didn't have an urgent need to sell Sam in this window. Asking him to stick around for another 6 months might have been a tough request giving his short game time, but we should have done it.
With the potential for increased competition for his signature in the summer window £7m is a joke and very poor business.
Stoke got a good player for a low price and shipped out an unwanted player along with his wages. Fantasic business by them which puts us to shame.
£9m to £10m for Sam, no Crouch and a better player coming in would have been understandable. Exposing us to risk while we are still in a vulnerable league position is madness.
The fact that Mike, Sean, Rigg and the entire recruitment team got around the table and decided this was a good deal at this particular moment in time raises serious questions.
I fear for the Summer window if this is what we consider to be astute business.
Crouch is undoubtedly a good egg, but if character and motivation are the most important factors we should have signed Timmy Mallet when we had the chance instead of going down this road. With him onboard at least we could have been sure that comedic value in the eyes of others was the primary objective of our transfer strategy.
With 3 years on his contract and cash in the bank we didn't have an urgent need to sell Sam in this window. Asking him to stick around for another 6 months might have been a tough request giving his short game time, but we should have done it.
With the potential for increased competition for his signature in the summer window £7m is a joke and very poor business.
Stoke got a good player for a low price and shipped out an unwanted player along with his wages. Fantasic business by them which puts us to shame.
£9m to £10m for Sam, no Crouch and a better player coming in would have been understandable. Exposing us to risk while we are still in a vulnerable league position is madness.
The fact that Mike, Sean, Rigg and the entire recruitment team got around the table and decided this was a good deal at this particular moment in time raises serious questions.
I fear for the Summer window if this is what we consider to be astute business.
Crouch is undoubtedly a good egg, but if character and motivation are the most important factors we should have signed Timmy Mallet when we had the chance instead of going down this road. With him onboard at least we could have been sure that comedic value in the eyes of others was the primary objective of our transfer strategy.
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Doomed. DOOMED I tell ye!
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How many years ago was that. He's managed one goal for Stoke this season and that's in the championship and he's now 38. How can this be seen as a good signing. Stoke have had our pants down again. Why didn't we just sell them Vokes and invest the money elsewhere or better still just keep Vokes till the summer.Tall Paul wrote:Even though Crouch has the record for the most headed goals in a PL season?
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Exactly what he has trotted out for the last God knows how many windows. Its the usual we have a certain business model here blah, blah, blah. Its well pat its sell by date and fewer people are believing it anymore.DCWat wrote:What has Dyche actually said?
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The idea that we couldn’t land Adams because Brum couldn’t sort a replacement just lends further credence to not waiting until the last couple of days to submit serious bids.
If we’re calling less than £10m for a team’s top scorer “serious” of course...
If we’re calling less than £10m for a team’s top scorer “serious” of course...
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Some people really need to give their heads a wobble on here. We are competitive, recent results show that with our form returning we should easily have enough already. I'm not saying a few in wouldn't be nice but the gloom and doom merchants could really do with standing on their doorsteps in the fresh air for an hour. As for calling Garlick. I've seen a few come and go... if you're so upset with him you'd have drowned yourself in the Calder with some of our previous chairmen.
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You didn't hear the news?Long Time Lurker wrote:we should have signed Timmy Mallet when we had the chance instead of going down this road. With him onboard at least we could have been sure that comedic value in the eyes of others was the primary objective of our transfer strategy.
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My post was in response to the poster who said that Vokes is a better header of the ball than Crouch ever was, so your post isn't relevant to mine.Firthy wrote:How many years ago was that. He's managed one goal for Stoke this season and that's in the championship and he's now 38. How can this be seen as a good signing. Stoke have had our pants down again. Why didn't we just sell them Vokes and invest the money elsewhere or better still just keep Vokes till the summer.
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Yes we’re competitive, so let’s improve by actually bringing in some quality. I remember the “we finished 7th last season” line from summer.elwaclaret wrote:Some people really need to give their heads a wobble on here. We are competitive, recent results show that with our form returning we should easily have enough already. I'm not saying a few in wouldn't be nice but the gloom and doom merchants could really do with standing on their doorsteps in the fresh air for an hour. As for calling Garlick. I've seen a few come and go... if you're so upset with him you'd have drowned yourself in the Calder with some of our previous chairmen.
And Garlick can be called because his transfer dealings are at some times laughable. Whataboutery isn’t going wash.
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Even by our standards taking 18 years to land a transfer target is going some...
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Forth bid rejected by Brum Burnley still talking to them.
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I logged back on just to like that.Culmclaret wrote:Even by our standards taking 18 years to land a transfer target is going some...
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12million last bid rejected.
But we're not seriously trying to sign him
But we're not seriously trying to sign him
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4th bid for che of 12 million turned down, going to be too late even if they accept a bid.
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Says who ?elwaclaret wrote:12million last bid rejected.
But we're not seriously trying to sign him
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That can't be true, Andy told us our business was finished earlier.elwaclaret wrote:Forth bid rejected by Brum Burnley still talking to them.
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SSN, and BurnleyReecey1987 wrote:Says who ?
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If Boden says we are done for the day, there's a good chance we still have a deal or two on the table
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Brinkmanship...tried, tested and failed.
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He was quoting DycheDamo wrote:If Boden says we are done for the day, there's a good chance we still have a deal or two on the table
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He also didn't say we were done for the day.
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Why can't we just pay what they want? Or at least get them to name their valuation so that we can say no thanks??Lowbankclaret wrote:4th bid for che of 12 million turned down, going to be too late even if they accept a bid.
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He said anything else unlikelyTall Paul wrote:He also didn't say we were done for the day.
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Hopefully theres still life left in itelwaclaret wrote:SSN, and Burnley
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Let's face it we've got more chance of signing Che Guevara
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Dust Steven Reid's cheerleader poms poms down.
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Who says they haven't? They might want £17m, we say 'No thanks, how about £12m?'boatshed bill wrote:get them to name their valuation so that we can say no thanks??
And who's to say the price they say they want is what they'll take. Basic negotiation here people...
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If Brum say that they are unable to loan him back or cannot get a replacement due to their embargo then it is likely their no stance means no unless we offer above their original valuation. I think Burnley know this so may be putting in bids they know won't succeed to try and appease the fans but I fear their attempts to do this will be seen through. If they succeed with a bid then good luck to them but where was plan B ?
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Nope!....Just sick of whiners like you!.............In Dyche we trust etc.LaLigaClaret wrote:Just seen Sean Dyche whinging about the business model at the club on Sky. FFS give it a rest, the lickle ole Burnley mantra is an embarrassing load of old tosh. For a club to have made so much income over the last few years, spent much less than most teams, pay amongst the lowest wages it just doesn't wash anymore. We know we can't compete with the rich kids of the division but we are not looking to buy the players costing megabucks. Can someone explain how it is we were happy to pay £25m + for JayRod a few months ago yet are now once again pleading hard up. We seem happy enough to continually buy bench warmers who do nothing for us. There was allegedly quite a large transfer budget in the summer which we didn't spend so what has happened to it. Let me guess the transfer window in the summer will be really difficult and we just cannot buy players. Boring , repetitive and gut wrenching. I think more and more fans are becoming sick of hearing it.
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In Dyche We Trust is the football equivalent of a cult's mantra..
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They won't be telling us. They might not even know themselves but there will be a tipping point.boatshed bill wrote:Why can't we just pay what they want? Or at least get them to name their valuation so that we can say no thanks??
For all we know we've bid 12m and they want him loaned back. We could be negotiating buying the 'loan back' option for an extra cash deal
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Because that's not true. We we're reported to be making a £25mil bid for JayRod AND Craig Dawson.LaLigaClaret wrote:Can someone explain how it is we were happy to pay £25m + for JayRod a few months ago yet are now once again pleading hard.
We had £16mil offer for JayRod rejected.
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Have we ruled out "no deal" yet?CombatClaret wrote:Who says they haven't? They might want £17m, we say 'No thanks, how about £12m?'
And who's to say the price they say they want is what they'll take. Basic negotiation here people...
Maybe if we don't like the deal we're being offered we need to get "Brady" involved?
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That will not be permitted, to do with their FFP situation, I believe.elwaclaret wrote:They won't be telling us. They might not even know themselves but there will be a tipping point.
For all we know we've bid 12m and they want him loaned back. We could be negotiating buying the 'loan back' option for an extra cash deal
I'm not even sure that they could buy a replacement
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I know what he said.Granny WeatherWax wrote:He said anything else unlikely