Transfer Deadline Day

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:07 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Who says they haven't? They might want £17m, we say 'No thanks, how about £12m?'

And who's to say the price they say they want is what they'll take. Basic negotiation here people...
Well, if they want £17 million then there's little point in offering £12m is there?

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:08 pm

Would you be happy or annoyed if Adams came out and asked for the transfer via a request?

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote:That will not be permitted, to do with their FFP situation, I believe.
I'm not even sure that they could buy a replacement :?:
Think that IS the problem, we will have to make an offer that negates it if we are not wanting to loan him back. Sure it would have been sorted had BC not had the embargo. I'd hope that seeing as we seem to be putting sa lot into this that a buy loan deal is on the table should time run out on the straight transfer, but we could do with him in... if we can

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by CombatClaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:10 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Have we ruled out "no deal" yet?
Maybe if we don't like the deal we're being offered we need to get "Brady" involved?
Sadly it's not analagous as when any normal negotiation fails you return to the status quo.
We could crash out of the Premier League and be forced to deal on WBA terms.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Stevie Morgan » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:11 pm

Nixon saying our bid not at 12.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:12 pm

WE have not finished yet one way or the other with Brum.

Just confirmed by SPN from the training ground

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:12 pm

Garry Monk can’t believe his luck. Club sets easily matchable valuation for star striker, and by pure good fortune it happens to be Burnley Football Club who have the task of bidding.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:14 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Sadly it's not analagous as when any normal negotiation fails you return to the status quo.
We could crash out of the Premier League and be forced to deal on WBA terms.
Yes and we know that trying to negotiate WBA terms has been a disaster for us these past few windows,

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:16 pm

We’re still in for him, the guy on SSN at the training ground confirmed it.

Could be a late one.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Pearcey » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:17 pm

Anyone else thinking we could get gazumped if Brum accept an offer?

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:17 pm

jedi_master wrote:We’re still in for him, the guy on SSN at the training ground confirmed it.

Could be a late one.
Let us pray

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:17 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:In Dyche We Trust is the football equivalent of a cult's mantra..
We're Burnley, we're in the Premier league, we're five games unbeaten............we almost won at Old Trafford this week!
Where have you been the last 50yrs? .........Might be best if you try to enjoy these times! Or **** off and support someone else.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:18 pm

Be **** funny if we get him.

I do wonder if the massive wobblers thrown by almost everyone will be immortalised in a "classic thread"?

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:18 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:We're Burnley, we're in the Premier league, we're five games unbeaten............we almost won at Old Trafford this week!
Where have you been the last 50yrs? .........Might be best if you try to enjoy these times! Or **** off and support someone else.
HOUSE!

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:19 pm

Nixon says we’ve walked away. At £10m.

Profit making Premier League club walks away £2m short on deadline day out of fear of being ripped off. Don’t rate Dyche’s transfer policy highly at all, but sooner Garlick leaves, the better.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:19 pm

Final bid for Adams was 10 million, rejected and we've walked away. Goodnight all.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:20 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:We're Burnley, we're in the Premier league, we're five games unbeaten............we almost won at Old Trafford this week!
Where have you been the last 50yrs? .........Might be best if you try to enjoy these times! Or **** off and support someone else.
We won the league 60 years ago.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by burnleymik » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:20 pm

**Duplicate**

I would imagine with the Adams bid over that is probably our business wrapped up. Incredibly disappointing.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:23 pm

Poor.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Steddyman » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:24 pm

Even if we offered £12 million now, given how long it is taking to get Crouchy through his medical, there is no way we could get Che up here for a medical and to sign in how long is left. We are done.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:26 pm

Well that isn't correct at all

But I'd be surprised if we go back in now to be honest.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by CombatClaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:26 pm

"Walked away. For now. Probably for good today"

A glimmer of hope.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Firthy » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:27 pm

burnleymik wrote:**Duplicate**

I would imagine with the Adams bid over that is probably our business wrapped up. Incredibly disappointing.
It was over before that. We were never going to match the asking price.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:27 pm

CombatClaret wrote:"Walked away. For now. Probably for good today"

A glimmer of hope.
I think that means we've walked away in this window but may go back in the summer.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by burnleymik » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:30 pm

Firthy wrote:It was over before that. We were never going to match the asking price.
True, but we didn't seem that far apart (if 12mill was the asking price as touted).

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:31 pm

burnleymik wrote:True, but we didn't seem that far apart (if 12mill was the asking price as touted).
This was a transfer we could afford and the wages with it then we walk away . I really dont understand our transfer policy sometimes
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:33 pm

Just seems incredibly short sighted, pedantic, overly cautious and unrealistic to offer £10m for a player the club want £12m for (which seems a very fair price considering their embargo).

It’s absurd to make four bids below asking price then walk away because (shock, horror) we haven’t offered what they asked for 10 hours prior. I understand negotiation, but in Birmingham’s transfer position they were always going to stick to their guns.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Spijed » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:34 pm

According to Nicko Southampton want £10 mil for Austin but no takers.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Long Time Lurker » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:38 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Final bid for Adams was 10 million, rejected and we've walked away. Goodnight all.
£7m for Sam and walking away at £10m for Che

Accepting a low value for one and expecting to pay a low value for another. Something is seriously wrong there.

Getting a reasonable amount for Sam would have enabled us to pay more for Che.

Bad business on both ends, although why we are ******* about when we have enough cash to up the bid to try and salvage something from this potential cluster **** is beyond me.

If Birmingham can't make any loan deals and they are resisting because of that, which is understandable, then we have to ask why we once again put all of our eggs in the basket of a player who wasn't going to move and why we left it until the very last minute to make our play.

Obviously we don't know the full ins and outs of Birminghams FFP restrictions, but the recruitment team should have known them, because that is what they are paid to do. In the case of any doubts going in earlier would have left us time to pursue alternatives. And it isn't like waiting until the very last minute is doing us any favors in terms of prices.

Different window same mistakes :|

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by DCWat » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:39 pm

SGr wrote:Nixon says we’ve walked away. At £10m.

Profit making Premier League club walks away £2m short on deadline day out of fear of being ripped off. Don’t rate Dyche’s transfer policy highly at all, but sooner Garlick leaves, the better.
Disagree with the transfer policy or with walking away over £2 million but wanting rid of Garlick is just silly.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:43 pm

I hope what Nixon is reporting is not true but there are a number of fans who seem to be taking his word as gospel....the way he is reporting this I can only assume he on the same conference call as Garlick and the Brum owner

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by DomBFC1882 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:44 pm

Why wont we pay 12 mil for Adams who has lots of potential but 15 mil on Vyds and bench him?

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:45 pm

TVC15 wrote:I hope what Nixon is reporting is not true but there are a number of fans who seem to be taking his word as gospel....the way he is reporting this I can only assume he on the same conference call as Garlick and the Brum owner
He knows more than our own journalists.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Ilkley claret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:47 pm

We have offered a cash plus Crouch deal !

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by CombatClaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:49 pm

We we're about £2mil short of JayRod too if I remember.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:50 pm

It sounds like the offer was rising to 12 million . Maybe if we just pay it all up front we will get him

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by ClaretAL » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:52 pm

SSN says we have had a fourth bid in excess of £12M turned down

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Longsider » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:56 pm

ClaretAL wrote:SSN says we have had a fourth bid in excess of £12M turned down
It's not happening.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Pearcey » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:56 pm

It’s clear Birmingham don’t want to sell. That’s pretty standard during the January window. Still, it’s incredibly disappointing.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:57 pm

Our “transfer policy” is an absolute joke. Still, I’m sure the Chairman’s Lounge will get another sprucing up.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:58 pm

DCWat wrote:Disagree with the transfer policy or with walking away over £2 million but wanting rid of Garlick is just silly.
Can’t see him changing his ways. Transfer policy means very little when he’s going to spend entire windows making silly bids then not landing the targets.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by claretspice » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:59 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:He knows more than our own journalists.
He does, but because it suits him to spin a story, he simplifies negotiations into a serious of chess moves with dramatic effect. As anyone who has ever negotiated any sort of deal knows, it's never quite as static or simple as he suggests. To use a simple aspect - almost no deal is straightforward £10 million cash. There are debates about what amount is guaranteed, and whether that is all payable up front or in instalments, how much is in "add-ons" and if so what the conditions are for payment, and so on. All of which takes ongoing dialogue.

None of us actually know what Burnley have been told by Brum, or vice versa, or what negotiations have taken place. Everyone is basing their opinions on half truths and half-stories from journalists.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:59 pm

Pearcey wrote:It’s clear Birmingham don’t want to sell. That’s pretty standard during the January window. Still, it’s incredibly disappointing.
Don’t want to sell but have made it fairly clear they would for the right price. Which they’ve been kind enough to tell us.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Pearcey » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:00 pm

SGr wrote:Don’t want to sell but have made it fairly clear they would for the right price. Which they’ve been kind enough to tell us.
Have they?

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:01 pm

Pearcey wrote:Have they?
£12m.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Pearcey » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:02 pm

A former agent called Dave Jenkins has tweeted that Adams is going nowhere.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by gawthorpe_view » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:02 pm

Check out @BurnleyOfficial’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/BurnleyOfficial/sta ... 88773?s=09" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by Pearcey » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:03 pm

SGr wrote:£12m.
Birmingham have actually announced that then? I thought it was just speculation from Journalists.

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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:03 pm

Wow - so many people on that conference call...Nixon, SGr...etc
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:05 pm

TVC15 wrote:Wow - so many people on that conference call...Nixon, SGr...etc
You’ve no idea how high this goes :lol:

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