Mike Rigg
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I suspect the Adams deal is a Rigg one - didn't he say he was looking at a 22year old soon after he started - the Crouch one (which I am not happy with) sounds more like SD giving in to Vokes wanting more game time and repaying his loyalty over the years. Club should come first though
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Stayingup wrote:He needs time. This window is always dreadful too. He will come good with time.
Why do you think that we are trading Vokes for Crouch? Seperate transfers is what we are being told. Not connected except that the playere happen to be swapping clubs.
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So basing the appointment of someone on one deal - a bit like judging the performance of a player on one pass.Cleveleys_claret wrote:Yes I am....ONE potential deal. I know he hasnt been here long but surely he has a list of players he felt would help. I felt at the time that this role was much needed and felt Mike Rigg was the right man out of the candidates. I am just seeing it as a pointless role now as whilst MG is at the helm we are never going to take a risk. Well except the risk of being low on numbers in key areas and deciding to cross our fingers and hope we dont get an injury in that position.
I'm intrigued that you felt Rigg was the right man from the candidates. Who were the candidates? Nothing was ever made public so I assume you must know.
MG not taking a risk? Are you sure it's him and not the manager? I wouldn't be quite so sure.
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I was sat in on the interviews and we definitely promised Mike Rigg money to sign whoever he wants regardless of what the manager said.
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So Rigg has been working on a deal for Adams which included loaning him back to Birmingham which wouldn’t have been possible, brilliant
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According to CT recruitment is only part of the role of Mr Rigg
Given the panic buys during the last few days of the summer window you would have thought our existing recruitment team (from that time) would have learnt a lesson and began looking for potential Jan players from the 1st September - and that any discussions from 1st Sept onwards included the manager
I assume they met with Rigg on his appointment and briefed him on current situations they were looking at. They are all still in a job as far as I am aware so presume Rigg was happy with their work
My point is Rigg may only have been in the building a few months but the rest of them should have been able to pass on names other than Crouch
Given the panic buys during the last few days of the summer window you would have thought our existing recruitment team (from that time) would have learnt a lesson and began looking for potential Jan players from the 1st September - and that any discussions from 1st Sept onwards included the manager
I assume they met with Rigg on his appointment and briefed him on current situations they were looking at. They are all still in a job as far as I am aware so presume Rigg was happy with their work
My point is Rigg may only have been in the building a few months but the rest of them should have been able to pass on names other than Crouch
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Right to answer my own question nah questions he is our new head man on players being signed...thanks very much SWC for my answer oh really not at all any time
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He would do well on Pointless!
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Everything the clarets do is dominated by doing everything as cheaply as possible. The replacement for a decent PL striker with a free 38 year old signing that is not a regular in a championship side is as cheap as it comes. Why not save some more money and dispense with the services of Mike Rigg. If he hasn't been given any money to work with its hard to see what he can bring to the party.
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I would be interested to learn what you'd have posted when we signed Sam Vokes in the first place ?Claretpundit wrote:Everything the clarets do is dominated by doing everything as cheaply as possible. The replacement for a decent PL striker with a free 38 year old signing that is not a regular in a championship side is as cheap as it comes. Why not save some more money and dispense with the services of Mike Rigg. If he hasn't been given any money to work with its hard to see what he can bring to the party.
In the January window, Clubs under threat of potential relegation don't want to sell their better players ...
In the January window, Clubs pushing for European spots and play-off places don't want to sell their better players ..
In the January window, this leaves Clubs who are struggling financially, Clubs who want to offload a problem " Birds, booze or bookies " player, or Clubs, with their knowledge of a player, receiving an offer they consider above their valuation, and who'll snap your hand off !!
Let's get next Summer's window over with, before we even attempt to judge Mr Rigg !!
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Bedtime!
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To be fair to the bloke he seems to have a problem with the sometimes puzzling elements of FFP.joey13 wrote:So Rigg has been working on a deal for Adams which included loaning him back to Birmingham which wouldn’t have been possible, brilliant
In his relatively short employment term with Fulham his recruitment resulted in them experiencing the harsh impact of a transfer embargo for breaching the FFP rules.
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My bigger worry is the Summer window. He has a demonstrated history of shipping out a large number of players and then bringing in a large number of flaky transfers that are more to his liking, which unsettles the squad as a whole.
That is what he did at QPR and he did the same thing at Fulham. He seems to enjoy wholesale squad reconstructions with a penchant for old cloggers with experience.
After the job is done the unfortunate club have to toil with the reapers harvest and then they get rid of him as the first step towards reparing the damage. Off he goes back to the FA or another periphery football job and then he resurfaces after a year or two and repeats the process at another club.
I can only hope that Sean is strong enough, and his own position is secure enough, to keep Rigg in line over changes to our squad. Garlick is number one, but if Sean's position is weakened and Rigg assumes the number two mantle we could be in for a rocky ride, unless he has learned from his mistakes at both QPR and Fulham and he is now ready to embrace a "stronger together" approach with more than words.
If we get relegated we could be well and truly screwed.
This window was an important opportunity for us to strengthen our squad, ensure our chance of survival and reduce the workload for the Summer window. We have responded to it by weakening our squad, reducing our chance of survival and increasing the Summer workload.
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I would be amazed if Sean Dyche doesn't have the final say over anything Mike Rigg does. If Rigg wants to sell half a dozen first team members, and Dyche doesn't want him to, then they won't go.Long Time Lurker wrote:I can only hope that Sean is strong enough, and his own position is secure enough, to keep Rigg in line over changes to our squad. Garlick is number one, but if Sean's position is weakened and Rigg assumes the number two mantle we could be in for a rocky ride, unless he has learned from his mistakes at both QPR and Fulham and he is now ready to embrace a "stronger together" approach with more than words.
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You want to think again about that argument?Clarets4me wrote:In the January window, Clubs under threat of potential relegation don't want to sell their better players .....
If you’re unclear about where you’ve gone wrong just check the league table and see where we are, then think about the player we sold yesterday.
Nice Petard you’ve got there. Shame you’ve hoisted yourself by it.
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The odds for us to be relegated lengthened yesterday.Long Time Lurker wrote:This window was an important opportunity for us to strengthen our squad, ensure our chance of survival and reduce the workload for the Summer window. We have responded to it by weakening our squad, reducing our chance of survival and increasing the Summer workload.
Sam Vokes wasn't one of our better players.Socrates wrote:
You want to think again about that argument?
If you’re unclear about where you’ve gone wrong just check the league table and see where we are, then think about the player we sold yesterday.
Nice Petard you’ve got there. Shame you’ve hoisted yourself by it.
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If crouch fits the profile of what we are looking for, the profile is wrong. He might turn out to be inspired but that'll be luck not design.
I presume we got him as part of some government scrapped scheme when we traded in vokes.
I presume we got him as part of some government scrapped scheme when we traded in vokes.
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Maybe che adams was riggs target after all and dyche didnt think he was worth the 12 million who knows
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At the start of next season I'll still be watching and supporting Burnley regardless of Division, Manager, Chairman, Head of Recruitment and Players.
Just saying...
Just saying...
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12m was offered and rejected. Would 15m have done it? We won't knowReecey1987 wrote:Maybe che adams was riggs target after all and dyche didnt think he was worth the 12 million who knows
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We most likely structured it wrong or dyche didnt think he was worth going any higher if he was riggs targetZizkovClaret wrote:12m was offered and rejected. Would 15m have done it? We won't know
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Some of you probably think we should employ this bloke as head of recruitment
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Aye, alright then.Tall Paul wrote:Sam Vokes wasn't one of our better players.
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He'd have been starting games if he was.Socrates wrote:Aye, alright then.
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Absolute wham.Tall Paul wrote:He'd have been starting games if he was.
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Socrates wrote:Absolute wham.
Jesus.
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A detailed and well constructed argument there.Socrates wrote:Absolute wham.
It's not "wham" though (whatever that means). If he's one of our better players why isn't he starting?
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That's carrying self-belief to a new level.alpo wrote:If crouch fits the profile of what we are looking for, the profile is wrong. He might turn out to be inspired but that'll be luck not design.
I presume we got him as part of some government scrapped scheme when we traded in vokes.
Part 1, "I am right and Dyche is wrong", is ambitious enough. But part 2, "even if Crouch is a wonderful signing I am still right and Dyche is just lucky" -
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he has not earned his money to date.
Two signings.
One 38 year old
and
One wrong coloured robot!
Marvellous!
Two signings.
One 38 year old
and
One wrong coloured robot!
Marvellous!
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Dyche is a good manager and if he succeeds in turning round this season to escape the drop, he'll go up in my estimation. But he isn't always right and often there's no definitive proof either way.
As a club, we should be looking for better than crouch and take a chance on younger players rather than him. I can see the logic of like for like but it's not what you'd set out to do on 1st Jan. Prepared to be proved wrong but his recent record doesn't look great.1 goal in 23.
As a club, we should be looking for better than crouch and take a chance on younger players rather than him. I can see the logic of like for like but it's not what you'd set out to do on 1st Jan. Prepared to be proved wrong but his recent record doesn't look great.1 goal in 23.
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You could argue it was Dyche who put us in this mess by signing Hart and being too stubborn to change it for half a season when it clearly wasn't working?alpo wrote:Dyche is a good manager and if he succeeds in turning round this season to escape the drop, he'll go up in my estimation. But he isn't always right and often there's no definitive proof either way.
As a club, we should be looking for better than crouch and take a chance on younger players rather than him. I can see the logic of like for like but it's not what you'd set out to do on 1st Jan. Prepared to be proved wrong but his recent record doesn't look great.1 goal in 23.
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Dyche is a good manager and if he succeeds in turning round this season to escape the drop, he'll go up in my estimation. But he isn't always right and often there's no definitive proof either way.
As a club, we should be looking for better than crouch and take a chance on younger players rather than him. I can see the logic of like for like but it's not what you'd set out to do on 1st Jan. Prepared to be proved wrong but his recent record doesn't look great.1 goal in 23.
As a club, we should be looking for better than crouch and take a chance on younger players rather than him. I can see the logic of like for like but it's not what you'd set out to do on 1st Jan. Prepared to be proved wrong but his recent record doesn't look great.1 goal in 23.