Would you still buy a Nissan?

[LoveCurryPies]

Nissan have decided to build the new X-Trail in Japan. They are the first motor company to move their production because of Brexit uncertainties....others may follow.

Does it annoy you? Would you still buy a Nissan if you had been planning to do so?

[dougcollins]

I'm fairly sure I've never bought a car based on where it was built.

[TVC15]

They haven’t moved it because of Brexit uncertainties.
It was never there in the first place - it was going to be and they have decided not to because of poor sales in Europe and have said they have done this for business reasons.
The other models they make up there will continue to be made.

[FactualFrank]

I'm fairly sure I've never bought a car based on where it was built.

Pretty much this.

[tim_noone]

Nissan have decided to build the new X-Trail in Japan. They are the first motor company to move their production because of Brexit uncertainties....others may follow.

Does it annoy you? Would you still buy a Nissan if you had been planning to do so?

Don't buy sushi... f..k em!

[Quickenthetempo]

Not a chance.

I won't even visit Lancaster now because there's a poster on here who resides there, who voted remain.

[JohnMac]

They haven’t moved it because of Brexit uncertainties.

You should know by now that you aren't allowed to use truth to spoil another Brexit myth

[IanMcL]

No to Nissan!

[spadesclaret]

Yes.

[tim_noone]

Buy British!

[Lancasterclaret]

I don't live in Lancaster.

The City is open to you Quick!

[CrosspoolClarets]

Nissan have decided to build the new X-Trail in Japan. They are the first motor company to move their production because of Brexit uncertainties....others may follow.

Does it annoy you? Would you still buy a Nissan if you had been planning to do so?

Nissan not producing their SUV here is NOT related to Brexit. If the company implied it is, it is a fraction of the reason.

They are not shifting production to the EU, but back to Japan. Their boss was jailed. The diesel scandal has hit them hard. They have made a strategic decision to regroup.

The entire world car industry is in crisis. The companies who will thrive are unknown. We can’t rely on it for our economy going forward, regardless of Brexit. Naive of some MPs to push for a customs union with the car industry the main reason when it’s future isn’t guaranteed. Better to have an independant trade policy and encourage innovation into the new generation of transport in the future rather than look at the supply chain economics of the present and past.

And no, I wouldn’t buy Nissan.

[dermotdermot]

Buy British!

Oh, there is such a thing as a British car? Well that’s news to me. Perhaps you could recommend one.

[Lancasterclaret]

***** sake you absolute spoon.

The Car industry is not the main reason for pushing for a Customs Union.

I'm getting sick and tired of bright people on here assuming we are all thick as pigshit. You know you will get called out for lies, so stop lying.

[Burnley1989]

Spend my life in Nissan Washington, sick of the sight of them

[tim_noone]

Oh, there is such a thing as a British car? Well that’s news to me. Perhaps you could recommend one.

A TVR or a Morgan to name two..

[ŽižkovClaret]

No. I don't drive and i much prefer riding in a Skoda Superb #CeskyAutoMasDobry

[ŽižkovClaret]

A TVR or a Morgan to name two..

TVR even still going? Aston Martin are made in the UK still aren't they? However i've no idea on ownership

[chorleyhere]

Well I will wait till TVR and Morgan build a family friendly crossover model with lots of helpful technology which I can afford, totally British in design and parts ................ Aah might be waiting a very long time don't you think Tim ?

[cricketfieldclarets]

What do you mean, still?

[theroyaldyche]

Nissan sunny

Full of em in nelson

[tim_noone]

TVR even still going? Aston Martin are made in the UK still aren't they? However i've no idea on ownership

Yes... To your first question

[tim_noone]

Well I will wait till TVR and Morgan build a family friendly crossover model with lots of helpful technology which I can afford, totally British in design and parts ................ Aah might be waiting a very long time don't you think Tim ?

In reply to dermots..'name one' I have in the TVR

[ŽižkovClaret]

Interesting, i think i last heard of them under the Smolensky ownership

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Yeah, I'd definitely buy the GTR...

In regards to Nissan being hit by falling sales etc, anyone remember Daihatsu stopped selling in most of Europe due to falling sales etc, sometimes it just happens.
The diesel thing is going to harm pretty much 90% of cr manufacturers and they'll restructure their businesses to deal with it.

[gawthorpe_view]

Big diesel SUV, bit of a dinosaur now, the market has moved.
Petrol hybrid or electric is the future.
Nissan to stop producing diesels in three year's time.

[TVC15]

Interesting, i think i last heard of them under the Smolensky ownership

The same Smolensky who sold TVR to a British company 6 years ago ?

[ŽižkovClaret]

The same Smolensky who sold TVR to a British company 6 years ago ?

Yeah as a non-driver who lives abroad, and not really that arsed about some mid life crisis fodder on wheels, it had somewhat passed me by.....

[tim_noone]

Yeah as a non-driver who lives abroad, and not really that arsed about some mid life crisis fodder on wheels, it had somewhat passed me by.....

But you did ask tbf... And you did respond.

[ŽižkovClaret]

But you did ask tbf... And you did respond.

Yes, i was replying to his surprise at me not being up to date with TVR..... I doubt id be in the minority on here in that respect tbh

[FactualFrank]

But you did ask tbf... And you did respond.

Don't bring me into this.

[AndyClaret]

From the pro brexit FT....

[Billy Balfour]

Put your fingers in your ears and go LA LA LA LA LA.

While we have taken this decision for business reasons, the continued uncertainty around the UK’s future relationship with the EU is not helping companies like ours to plan for the future,” said Europe Chairman Gianluca de Ficchy.

[AndyClaret]

Put your fingers in your ears and go LA LA LA LA LA.

While we have taken this decision for business reasons, the continued uncertainty around the UK’s future relationship with the EU is not helping companies like ours to plan for the future,” said Europe Chairman Gianluca de Ficchy.

The full quote: Gianluca de Ficchy said the decision was a mixture of investment needed for emissions regulations and reduced sales forecasts but added uncertainty over Brexit had also played a part.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

They don't want to use the full quote, they'd rather stick their fingers in their ears and go la la la la

[Rileybobs]

Nissan claim that part of the reason is the uncertainty of Brexit. It's really weird that some people are desperate to claim that Brexit has nothing to do with the decision, despite Nissan saying exactly the opposite. Desperate.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Nissan claim that part of the reason is the uncertainty of Brexit. It's really weird that some people are desperate to claim that Brexit has nothing to do with the decision, despite Nissan saying exactly the opposite. Desperate.

No more desperate than some people trying to pin it all on Brexit.

That's despite numerous conversations on this forum about the automotive industry and the issues it's having and will have whilst it adjusts.

[Rileybobs]

No more desperate than some people trying to pin it all on Brexit.

That's despite numerous conversations on this forum about the automotive industry and the issues it's having and will have whilst it adjusts.

I must have missed the posts where people are trying to pin this all on Brexit. Care to point them out?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I must have missed the posts where people are trying to pin this all on Brexit. Care to point them out?

It's happened numerous times across numerous threads.

It's always amusing watching them try really hard though bless them.

[Quickenthetempo]

Nissan claim that part of the reason is the uncertainty of Brexit. It's really weird that some people are desperate to claim that Brexit has nothing to do with the decision, despite Nissan saying exactly the opposite. Desperate.

Smack Water Jacks claimed they had to charge their customers two quid to get in because of Brexit, a few days after the vote.

I wouldn't listen to all excuses any company makes.

[Colburn_Claret]

Nissan claim that part of the reason is the uncertainty of Brexit. It's really weird that some people are desperate to claim that Brexit has nothing to do with the decision, despite Nissan saying exactly the opposite. Desperate.

But they would say exactly the opposite. Theyd rather blame Brexit, than admit the problems they are facing back in Japan.

That said, Brexit is a problem for a lot of businesses, not because we are leaving, but because they don't know if we are leaving or under what terms. NOTHING upsets business more than uncertainty. Once it is settled, and they have a clear plan of how to proceed they'll just get on with it, as they always do.

[Lancasterclaret]

I am loving the "well, yes, it was part of project fear, and yes, it is happening, but it's nothing to do with Brexit" stuff that is coming out it has to be said

[JohnMcGreal]

Escalation of commitment is a human behavior pattern in which an individual or group facing increasingly negative outcomes from a decision, action, or investment nevertheless continues the behavior instead of altering course. The actor maintains behaviors that are irrational, but align with previous decisions and actions.

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[Devils_Advocate]

I am loving the "well, yes, it was part of project fear, and yes, it is happening, but it's nothing to do with Brexit" stuff that is coming out it has to be said

I was thinking like you but having heard what the doorman at Smacks has said then ive now seen the light

[Quickenthetempo]

I was thinking like you but having heard what the doorman at Smacks has said then ive now seen the light

It was the owner in the Burnley express actually.

[Devils_Advocate]

My mistake if it was the owner of Smacks who had to put £2 extra on the door then case closed.

[Damo]

I would never buy a Nissan, or any other French car straight from the factory. They are terrible

[Quickenthetempo]

My mistake if it was the owner of Smacks who had to put £2 extra on the door then case closed.

Glad that's sorted.

[Paul Waine]

Escalation of commitment is a human behavior pattern in which an individual or group facing increasingly negative outcomes from a decision, action, or investment nevertheless continues the behavior instead of altering course. The actor maintains behaviors that are irrational, but align with previous decisions and actions.

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Hi John, good post - there's a lot of it about.

[CleggHall]

Yes my Nissan Note is parked outside, remind me how did the people of Sunderland vote in the Referendum!