It's totally relevant. If you honestly believe it's acceptable that expressions of democracy should be thwarted, simply because you don't like the result it produces. You have absolutely no right to call yourself a democrat. And you should , maybe , shuffle off to North Korea.aggi wrote:Well I wasn't intending to answer the questions, I was just saying I liked how you phrased question 2. I can give you some answers though I guess:
1. It depends who those "some people" are. If it's the man in the street, or economics experts or business leaders or whatever, then no.
If those "some people" are democratically elected MPs and there are enough of them to stop the referendum result being enacted (obviously your General Election point becomes moot because the only ones who I say can overturn are the elected MPs) then yes. Like it or not that's how our parliament works. If you don't agree with it then you have the chance to vote them out and vote someone in that will enact the referendum. You've spent a lot of time complaining about how the EU is stealing our sovereignty so it's a bit rich for you to complain when that parliamentary sovereignty is put into action.
2. I did choose to ignore the General Election part as it's irrelevant, we're talking about referendums. As I said there have been two so far which have been enacted but that's a pretty small sample size.
So you believe that MPs who -
A-, voted by a massive majority to let the people "have the final say on Europe " as Mr Hammond put it, by holding an EU referendum. Therefore , delegating the decision to British People.
B-, 84% of whom were elected on manifestos that pledged to respect and implement the referendum result
C-, voted, by a massive majority, to trigger Article 50. Which meant that we would leave the EU on the 29th of March 2019. With or without a withdrawal agreement.
Should now turn around and say "no"
Let me tell you something. They had their chance to say "no" on June 23rd 2016. When you and I and everybody else voted in the referendum. One person. One vote. To now turn round and usurp the clear instruction they have been given is an affront to democracy itself.
On referendum night before the results had come in, Paddy Ashdown made a solemn promise to the British public:
“I will forgive no one who does not respect the sovereign voice of the British people once it has spoken, whether it is a majority of one per cent or 20 per cent.
When the British people have spoken you do what they command.
Either you believe in democracy, or you don’t.”
And you, clearly, do not.