Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020

[Imploding Turtle]

As should any Socialists who voted for Momentums puppet.

"no u"

The weakest possible reply. Well done.

[Colburn_Claret]

Honestly if people don't react to him suspending parliament and forcing through a no-deal Brexit, Britons will deserve everything that comes after.

Wake the f**k up.

I've never been gladder to be out of it. My next visit to see family in October may prove to be my last for a long time. I have another set of flights booked in November but honestly i dont see myself using them at this point.

I don't recognise Britain any more. It is sleepwalking into an insular, suspicious, hostile, and bilious future that i want no part of

Maybe you're luckier than you think.
There are parts of this country, especially in the Capital, that you wouldnt recognise you're in Britain.
Very strange for an insular country.
Do Chechs get accused of being racist if they fly the Chech flag.
We've been living in a blinkered moralistic society, where we are constantly being told to be ashamed of ourselves, our history, our past. Where it's ok to wear a Burkha, but not a crucifix.

I have nothing against welcoming other cultures, or religions to our country, but it's still our country. When the tail starts wagging the dog it's time to stand up. I don't blame the migrants for this, it's the politically correct, do goody left wingers, who always know what's best for everybody, without even asking them.

If you lived here Zizkov, I'm sure you'd understand it better.

[Devils_Advocate]

Maybe you're luckier than you think.
There are parts of this country, especially in the Capital, that you wouldnt recognise you're in Britain.
Very strange for an insular country.
Do Chechs get accused of being racist if they fly the Chech flag.
We've been living in a blinkered moralistic society, where we are constantly being told to be ashamed of ourselves, our history, our past. Where it's ok to wear a Burkha, but not a crucifix.

I have nothing against welcoming other cultures, or religions to our country, but it's still our country. When the tail starts wagging the dog it's time to stand up. I don't blame the migrants for this, it's the politically correct, do goody left wingers, who always know what's best for everybody, without even asking them.

I think this is all you need to know about this poster - tragic.

[Tall Paul]

Wow

[aggi]

Maybe you're luckier than you think.
There are parts of this country, especially in the Capital, that you wouldnt recognise you're in Britain.
Very strange for an insular country.
Do Chechs get accused of being racist if they fly the Chech flag.
We've been living in a blinkered moralistic society, where we are constantly being told to be ashamed of ourselves, our history, our past. Where it's ok to wear a Burkha, but not a crucifix.

I have nothing against welcoming other cultures, or religions to our country, but it's still our country. When the tail starts wagging the dog it's time to stand up. I don't blame the migrants for this, it's the politically correct, do goody left wingers, who always know what's best for everybody, without even asking them.

If you lived here Zizkov, I'm sure you'd understand it better.

Any areas of the capital you'd care to specifically identify?

[Elizabeth]

I hardly think this is a 'shock horror' piece of news.
The Prime Minister of the UK wants to deliver Brexit for the 17.4 million citizens who voted to leave the UK and which has been denied by Parliament and a speaker rough riding over constition for too long.
I look forward to the expected vote of confidence next week which may or may not precede a General Election

[Darthlaw]

Yikes!

Never go full Colburn

[Elizabeth]

I hardly think this is a 'shock horror' piece of news.
The Prime Minister of the UK wants to deliver Brexit for the 17.4 million citizens who voted to leave the EU.

As nd which has been denied by Parliament and a speaker rough riding over constition for too long.
I look forward to the expected vote of confidence next week which may or may not precede a General Election

[Elizabeth]

Corrected

[Colburn_Claret]

I struggle to see the logic in it.

The two scenarios are:

No Deal Brexit is damaging to the EU and that's why it will force the EU to make a deal. However, if that's the case then it's clearly going to be more damaging to the UK than the EU so we are negotiating from a position of weakness.

No Deal Brexit isn't damaging to the UK. Ergo it isn't damaging to the EU and won't force a deal.


Any negotiation with the EU is just going to pick back up where we left off: the Irish border, the divorce bill, etc with us either in the same position or a worse position. I don't see how a No Deal is going to change the landscape in our favour.

To have left under May's deal would hurt us, and only us.
A no deal hurts both of us, which is why it is more likely to get them back to the table.
I've already explained how it's been mishandled, by May and the HOC, the position we're in now is almost an inevitable consequence of the last 3 years.
All those remainers who've been patting themselves on the back for 3 years need to look in the mirror.

[Colburn_Claret]

So this is what Brexiteer democracy looks like - suspending parliament because parliament won't let you do what you want to do.

It's what every democracy should be, Government listening to people. Remember it was the Government that gave people the vote in the first place. Refusing to act on it ........

[ŽižkovClaret]

Maybe you're luckier than you think.
There are parts of this country, especially in the Capital, that you wouldnt recognise you're in Britain.
Very strange for an insular country.
Do Chechs get accused of being racist if they fly the Chech flag.
We've been living in a blinkered moralistic society, where we are constantly being told to be ashamed of ourselves, our history, our past. Where it's ok to wear a Burkha, but not a crucifix.

I have nothing against welcoming other cultures, or religions to our country, but it's still our country. When the tail starts wagging the dog it's time to stand up. I don't blame the migrants for this, it's the politically correct, do goody left wingers, who always know what's best for everybody, without even asking them.

If you lived here Zizkov, I'm sure you'd understand it better.

The Czechs, who i assume you mean, have the good sense to reject most forms of religion in general

[Spijed]

There are parts of this country, especially in the Capital, that you wouldnt recognise you're in Britain.
Very strange for an insular country.
Do Chechs get accused of being racist if they fly the Chech flag.
We've been living in a blinkered moralistic society, where we are constantly being told to be ashamed of ourselves, our history, our past. Where it's ok to wear a Burkha, but not a crucifix.

I have nothing against welcoming other cultures, or religions to our country, but it's still our country. When the tail starts wagging the dog it's time to stand up. I don't blame the migrants for this, it's the politically correct, do goody left wingers, who always know what's best for everybody, without even asking them.

If you lived here Zizkov, I'm sure you'd understand it better.

So you're saying there is nothing wrong with racism then?

[Colburn_Claret]

And all it took you to win was abandoning everything you said you stood for.

You'll have to tell me what I abandoned, because I cant think of anything.

[BennyD]

May wanted us to stay in and Johnson wants us to leave and that’s why we are better off with Johnson. There is now talk of trying to revive May’s deal rather than leave without a trade deal. I’m loving this as it’s now dawning on the remoaners that we are leaving and it’s themselves that are responsible for putting us in this position. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Corbyn is touting himself as the people’s PM, and trying to cobble together the rest of the hapless idiots masquerading as party leaders into some sort of caretaker government. I really hope Auntie Betty suspends Parliament and allows this three ring circus to reach it’s logical conclusion.

[Spijed]

I’m loving this as it’s now dawning on the remoaners that we are leaving and it’s themselves that are responsible for putting us in this position.

Really?

And where is your evidence?

[BennyD]

If they had voted for May’s deal we would have been out now but they didn’t, they farted around trying for delay after delay hoping that the process would never end and a second referendum would have to be called. However, now Boris is cutting through the sh!t and getting us out, with or without a deal. Happy days.

[Colburn_Claret]

The Czechs, who i assume you mean, have the good sense to reject most forms of religion in general

They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.

Seriously we have fallen a long way appeasing peoples thin skins, or egos. In a country that used to be live and let live, we really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.

[ŽižkovClaret]

If they had voted for May’s deal we would have been out now but they didn’t, they farted around trying for delay after delay hoping that the process would never end and a second referendum would have to be called. However, now Boris is cutting through the sh!t and getting us out, with or without a deal. Happy days.

What is it about the EU that makes you so happy to leave and why do you think it will be better?

[ŽižkovClaret]

They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.

Seriously we have fallen a long way appeasing peoples thin skins, or egos. In a country that used to be live and let live, we really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.

I don't think it's your religion, Colburn

[SonofPog]

They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.

Seriously we have fallen a long way appeasing peoples thin skins, or egos. In a country that used to be live and let live, we really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.

Please provide one example where being Christian and or British is sinful.

[nil_desperandum]

May wanted us to stay in and Johnson wants us to leave and that’s why we are better off with Johnson. There is now talk of trying to revive May’s deal rather than leave without a trade deal..

I assume you mean the deal that Johnson himself voted for?
This in fact, is the deal that Johnson is indeed trying to get through (with some tinkering of the backstop), and is using the proroguing tactic to try to blackmail Parliament into passing the deal.

[Spijed]

Please provide one example where being Christian and or British is sinful.

Like banning people from wearing English flags at football.
Like supermarkets being banned from selling Christmas decorations

It's utter laughable that people voting for Brexit really do believe this rubbish!

[Imploding Turtle]

It's what every democracy should be, Government listening to people. Remember it was the Government that gave people the vote in the first place. Refusing to act on it ........

The government haven't refused to act on anything.

When all is said and done your people have shown your true colours. Willing to suspend a duly elected parliament in order to subvert parliament's sovereignty. You're in favour of tyranny, as long as it's for what you want.

[JohnMcGreal]

An unelected PM shutting down Parliament to force through a No Deal Brexit which has no public mandate. It really is appalling stuff, wherever you stand on the issue of leaving the EU. That said, I'm not remotely surprised to see the predictable political extremists on here defending it. They've shown their true colours here. They're not interested in democracy or sovereignty and never have been.

When MPs return to Parliament next week, they should legislate to revoke Article 50 with immediate effect, with an election or referendum to follow. Remind Johnson and his cronies that Parliament is sovereign, and always has been.

[Quickenthetempo]

Suspending Parliament is the best way to stop Bercow interfering.

The toe rag that's supposed to be impartial.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

An unelected PM shutting down Parliament to force through a No Deal Brexit which has no public mandate.

It does have a mandate, leave won the referendum, this is their choice, they own it. Everyone who voted leave now prefers a no deal brexit. More than half would even be happy to see it break up the UK. Well, here it comes, your wildest Brexit dreams are about to come true

[Tall Paul]

They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.

Seriously we have fallen a long way appeasing peoples thin skins, or egos. In a country that used to be live and let live, we really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.

"These days you get arrested and thrown in jail if you say you're English, don't you?"

[Elizabeth]

I read individual posters using words like appalling to describe the Prime Ministers actions this morning.

Until I see the masses take to the streets over the next few days I will ignore such distress on this matter

[dsr]

When MPs return to Parliament next week, they should legislate to revoke Article 50 with immediate effect, with an election or referendum to follow. Remind Johnson and his cronies that Parliament is sovereign, and always has been.

You may be happy to make MPs the ultimate bosses, but I'm not. In a democracy, the people are sovereign. If Parliament is sovereign, then you don't have a democracy.

The PM is answerable to Parliament, which still has plenty of time to have their holidays and vote out the PM if they want to. But Parliament is answerable to the people, and voting down Brexit on the basis that they believe the majority of people are wrong, is not what they are there for.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

We really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.

Sinful? I would say idiotic, doubly so if you throw in believe in some sort of magical water-into-wine ********.

[martin_p]

Well that’s the last time anyone tells me that wanting a second vote on Brexit Is undemocratic. My elected representative in parliament isn’t being given a say on the biggest issue in a generation but me wanting a vote on something is undemocratic!

[Murger]

Weren't all the FBPE crowd jumping for joy last week when it was suggested that Ken Clarke could be made temporary PM in a remain alliance? Where's the democratic mandate they all so crave for that?

[Colburn_Claret]

So you're saying there is nothing wrong with racism then?

It seems to be the theme of replies to my post, so I'll answer yours
I hate racists with a passion.
My 2 greatest figures from history are Martin Luther King and Ghandhi.
I think we should welcome other cultures and religions to this country.
I dont agree that I should have to change my life in anyway, because it would upset their beliefs. When in Rome do as the Romans do. Why come here if they dont like our culture or history.
So, as an example, Muslims who wish to practice their religion is fine, they bother no one, no one should bother them. However, the likes of Chaudry, preaching haterd on the steps of Mosques in London, encouraging people to violence. Insisting on Sharia Law, I'd kick them out of the country without batting an eyelid. If there wasnt a law to allow this, I'd pass one. Only you get arseholes supporting their rights to do this. The very same people wouldnt bat an eyelid at a Christian, preaching hate on the steps of a Cathedral having the book thrown at them.
It's all hypocritical bullshit, and I'm not a hypocrite. I have Asian friends, not many but only because it isnt heavily populated by the Asian community I've never had any problem with them. I can also say that if I told them this, just as I've written it, they'd agree with me. Does that make them racist.

[Imploding Turtle]

It seems to be the theme of replies to my post, so I'll answer yours
I hate racists with a passion.
My 2 greatest figures from history are Martin Luther King and Ghandhi.
I think we should welcome other cultures and religions to this country.
I dont agree that I should have to change my life in anyway, because it would upset their beliefs. When in Rome do as the Romans do. Why come here if they dont like our culture or history.
So, as an example, Muslims who wish to practice their religion is fine, they bother no one, no one should bother them. However, the likes of Chaudry, preaching haterd on the steps of Mosques in London, encouraging people to violence. Insisting on Sharia Law, I'd kick them out of the country without batting an eyelid. If there wasnt a law to allow this, I'd pass one. Only you get arseholes supporting their rights to do this. The very same people wouldnt bat an eyelid at a Christian, preaching hate on the steps of a Cathedral having the book thrown at them.
It's all hypocritical bullshit, and I'm not a hypocrite. I have Asian friends, not many but only because it isnt heavily populated by the Asian community I've never had any problem with them. I can also say that if I told them this, just as I've written it, they'd agree with me. Does that make them racist.

You want to throw people out of the country for expressing the belief that the UK should implement Sharia law? Preaching hate and encouraging violence are already illegal. But demanding Sharia Law? Really? That's quite a free speech problem you have there. MLK and Ghandi would probably disapprove of your rather extreme beliefs.

[aggi]

It seems to be the theme of replies to my post, so I'll answer yours
I hate racists with a passion.
My 2 greatest figures from history are Martin Luther King and Ghandhi.
I think we should welcome other cultures and religions to this country.
I dont agree that I should have to change my life in anyway, because it would upset their beliefs. When in Rome do as the Romans do. Why come here if they dont like our culture or history.
So, as an example, Muslims who wish to practice their religion is fine, they bother no one, no one should bother them. However, the likes of Chaudry, preaching haterd on the steps of Mosques in London, encouraging people to violence. Insisting on Sharia Law, I'd kick them out of the country without batting an eyelid. If there wasnt a law to allow this, I'd pass one. Only you get arseholes supporting their rights to do this. The very same people wouldnt bat an eyelid at a Christian, preaching hate on the steps of a Cathedral having the book thrown at them.
It's all hypocritical bullshit, and I'm not a hypocrite. I have Asian friends, not many but only because it isnt heavily populated by the Asian community I've never had any problem with them. I can also say that if I told them this, just as I've written it, they'd agree with me. Does that make them racist.

Just to check, this is the Anjem Choudary that was convicted under the Terrorism Act and sent to jail?

[Imploding Turtle]

They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.

Seriously we have fallen a long way appeasing peoples thin skins, or egos. In a country that used to be live and let live, we really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.

I love it. In the same thread on the same day you've complained about other people being thin-skinned, AND complained that other people have negative opinions of you if you're overtly proud to be Christian and British.

[Lord Rothbury]

Just to check, this is the Anjem Choudary that was convicted under the Terrorism Act and sent to jail?

Then released to continue where he left off spewing out bile against a country and culture he despises. All that at a hefty cost to the taxpayer.

ILB

[Imploding Turtle]

Then released to continue where he left off spewing out bile against a country and culture he despises. All that at a hefty cost to the taxpayer.

ILB

Yes. People get released from prison sometimes. As a liberal I apologise for us not locking everyone up forever.

[Colburn_Claret]

Just to check, this is the Anjem Choudary that was convicted under the Terrorism Act and sent to jail?

How many years did it take for them to eventually do what should have been done straight away. As I said in my post, it's an example.
Explain to me why its offensive to wear a crucifix?
Why is it racist to fly a cross of St. George or the Union Jack? and I do realise it's been purloined by the far right, well let's take it back again. You dont get rid of the far right by banishing our national flag.

[Tall Paul]

How many years did it take for them to eventually do what should have been done straight away. As I said in my post, it's an example.
Explain to me why its offensive to wear a crucifix?
Why is it racist to fly a cross of St. George or the Union Jack? and I do realise it's been purloined by the far right, well let's take it back again. You dont get rid of the far right by banishing our national flag.

Who says it's offensive to wear a crucifix, or that it's racist to fly those flags?

Apart from you, of course.

[Colburn_Claret]

I love it. In the same thread on the same day you've complained about other people being thin-skinned, AND complained that other people have negative opinions of you if you're overtly proud to be Christian and British.

I am why the hell shouldnt I be.
Just as people are proud to be Pakistani and Muslim.
Just as people are proud to be Israeli and Jewish.
Just as people are proud to be Catholic and Italian.
Why is it you equate being proud of one thing as anti a.n.other.
I'm proud of being a Burnley fan, does that mean I dont like, or respect, other football fans. These are the siry fairy morals that I spoke of to Zizkov, I'm supposed to be ashamed of who I am, of where I come from.
You're living in that politically correct world, that cant see the wood for the trees.

[aggi]

How many years did it take for them to eventually do what should have been done straight away. As I said in my post, it's an example.
Explain to me why its offensive to wear a crucifix?
Why is it racist to fly a cross of St. George or the Union Jack? and I do realise it's been purloined by the far right, well let's take it back again. You dont get rid of the far right by banishing our national flag.

It's not a very good example given that he got sent to jail and is classed as a terrorist.

It's not.

Look around at a football match, there are loads of St George and Union flags. Go and have a look at the top of Buckingham palace today, there's one there as well.

[Colburn_Claret]

Who says it's offensive to wear a crucifix, or that it's racist to fly those flags?

Apart from you, of course.

They've been, or were, banned from some schools, because they might offend some people.

[AndrewJB]

Then released to continue where he left off spewing out bile against a country and culture he despises. All that at a hefty cost to the taxpayer.

ILB

People spew bile and hatred all the time here, in rightwing newspapers.

[Imploding Turtle]

I am why the hell shouldnt I be.
Just as people are proud to be Pakistani and Muslim.
Just as people are proud to be Israeli and Jewish.
Just as people are proud to be Catholic and Italian.
Why is it you equate being proud of one thing as anti a.n.other.
I'm proud of being a Burnley fan, does that mean I dont like, or respect, other football fans. These are the siry fairy morals that I spoke of to Zizkov, I'm supposed to be ashamed of who I am, of where I come from.
You're living in that politically correct world, that cant see the wood for the trees.

Good god you're a ******* idiot, aren't you?

I don't give a **** what you're proud of. I think it's dumb to be proud of the things you claim to be proud of, but you have every right to be proud of dumb ****. Just as I have every right to think you're a dumb **** for it. The problem for you is that it really upsets you when others hold and express negative opinions about you because of the dumb **** you're proud of, and yet you really don't like other people having thin skins.

And i ******* love how you claim that others are equating being proud of something as being "anti a.n. other", while unironically expressing the opinion that being not proud of something equates to being ashamed of it.

Now, you and your thin-skinned little fingers go and bash that 'report' button.

[AndrewJB]

They've been, or were, banned from some schools, because they might offend some people.

Do you have any examples of this? I live in a very multicultural borough, and no flags nor signs of religion are banned here.

[Imploding Turtle]

It's not a very good example given that he got sent to jail and is classed as a terrorist.

It's not.

Look around at a football match, there are loads of St George and Union flags. Go and have a look at the top of Buckingham palace today, there's one there as well.

Colburn has been fully red-pilled by alt-right extremists. He's becoming Moffitt 2.0

[Tall Paul]

They've been, or were, banned from some schools, because they might offend some people.

Link please?

[Colburn_Claret]

It's not a very good example given that he got sent to jail and is classed as a terrorist.

It's not.

Look around at a football match, there are loads of St George and Union flags. Go and have a look at the top of Buckingham palace today, there's one there as well.

Try going to America, or France, you cant turn around without seeing the Stars and Stripes, or the Tricolour all over the place.

There were stories in the press, of people being told to remove flags from their own windows, during the last world cup, for fear it would upset people.

As I've said, the people it's supposed to offend couldn't give a ****, but it doesn't stop sections of officialdom speaking up on their behalf. The far left are just anti British, that doesn't make me far right. There have been many conflicts around the world in the last 40 years, lots that we've been involved in. Is there one, just one, that Corbyn hasn't supported the other side. Now I accept that we cant always be right, but we cant always be wrong either.