"no u"Colburn_Claret wrote:As should any Socialists who voted for Momentums puppet.
The weakest possible reply. Well done.
"no u"Colburn_Claret wrote:As should any Socialists who voted for Momentums puppet.
Maybe you're luckier than you think.ZizkovClaret wrote:Honestly if people don't react to him suspending parliament and forcing through a no-deal Brexit, Britons will deserve everything that comes after.
Wake the f**k up.
I've never been gladder to be out of it. My next visit to see family in October may prove to be my last for a long time. I have another set of flights booked in November but honestly i dont see myself using them at this point.
I don't recognise Britain any more. It is sleepwalking into an insular, suspicious, hostile, and bilious future that i want no part of
I think this is all you need to know about this poster - tragic.Colburn_Claret wrote:Maybe you're luckier than you think.
There are parts of this country, especially in the Capital, that you wouldnt recognise you're in Britain.
Very strange for an insular country.
Do Chechs get accused of being racist if they fly the Chech flag.
We've been living in a blinkered moralistic society, where we are constantly being told to be ashamed of ourselves, our history, our past. Where it's ok to wear a Burkha, but not a crucifix.
I have nothing against welcoming other cultures, or religions to our country, but it's still our country. When the tail starts wagging the dog it's time to stand up. I don't blame the migrants for this, it's the politically correct, do goody left wingers, who always know what's best for everybody, without even asking them.
Any areas of the capital you'd care to specifically identify?Colburn_Claret wrote:Maybe you're luckier than you think.
There are parts of this country, especially in the Capital, that you wouldnt recognise you're in Britain.
Very strange for an insular country.
Do Chechs get accused of being racist if they fly the Chech flag.
We've been living in a blinkered moralistic society, where we are constantly being told to be ashamed of ourselves, our history, our past. Where it's ok to wear a Burkha, but not a crucifix.
I have nothing against welcoming other cultures, or religions to our country, but it's still our country. When the tail starts wagging the dog it's time to stand up. I don't blame the migrants for this, it's the politically correct, do goody left wingers, who always know what's best for everybody, without even asking them.
If you lived here Zizkov, I'm sure you'd understand it better.
Elizabeth wrote:I hardly think this is a 'shock horror' piece of news.
The Prime Minister of the UK wants to deliver Brexit for the 17.4 million citizens who voted to leave the EU.
As nd which has been denied by Parliament and a speaker rough riding over constition for too long.
I look forward to the expected vote of confidence next week which may or may not precede a General Election
To have left under May's deal would hurt us, and only us.aggi wrote:I struggle to see the logic in it.
The two scenarios are:
No Deal Brexit is damaging to the EU and that's why it will force the EU to make a deal. However, if that's the case then it's clearly going to be more damaging to the UK than the EU so we are negotiating from a position of weakness.
No Deal Brexit isn't damaging to the UK. Ergo it isn't damaging to the EU and won't force a deal.
Any negotiation with the EU is just going to pick back up where we left off: the Irish border, the divorce bill, etc with us either in the same position or a worse position. I don't see how a No Deal is going to change the landscape in our favour.
It's what every democracy should be, Government listening to people. Remember it was the Government that gave people the vote in the first place. Refusing to act on it ........Imploding Turtle wrote:So this is what Brexiteer democracy looks like - suspending parliament because parliament won't let you do what you want to do.
The Czechs, who i assume you mean, have the good sense to reject most forms of religion in generalColburn_Claret wrote:Maybe you're luckier than you think.
There are parts of this country, especially in the Capital, that you wouldnt recognise you're in Britain.
Very strange for an insular country.
Do Chechs get accused of being racist if they fly the Chech flag.
We've been living in a blinkered moralistic society, where we are constantly being told to be ashamed of ourselves, our history, our past. Where it's ok to wear a Burkha, but not a crucifix.
I have nothing against welcoming other cultures, or religions to our country, but it's still our country. When the tail starts wagging the dog it's time to stand up. I don't blame the migrants for this, it's the politically correct, do goody left wingers, who always know what's best for everybody, without even asking them.
If you lived here Zizkov, I'm sure you'd understand it better.
So you're saying there is nothing wrong with racism then?Colburn_Claret wrote:There are parts of this country, especially in the Capital, that you wouldnt recognise you're in Britain.
Very strange for an insular country.
Do Chechs get accused of being racist if they fly the Chech flag.
We've been living in a blinkered moralistic society, where we are constantly being told to be ashamed of ourselves, our history, our past. Where it's ok to wear a Burkha, but not a crucifix.
I have nothing against welcoming other cultures, or religions to our country, but it's still our country. When the tail starts wagging the dog it's time to stand up. I don't blame the migrants for this, it's the politically correct, do goody left wingers, who always know what's best for everybody, without even asking them.
If you lived here Zizkov, I'm sure you'd understand it better.
You'll have to tell me what I abandoned, because I cant think of anything.SonofPog wrote:And all it took you to win was abandoning everything you said you stood for.
Really?BennyD wrote:I’m loving this as it’s now dawning on the remoaners that we are leaving and it’s themselves that are responsible for putting us in this position.
They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.ZizkovClaret wrote:The Czechs, who i assume you mean, have the good sense to reject most forms of religion in general
What is it about the EU that makes you so happy to leave and why do you think it will be better?BennyD wrote:If they had voted for May’s deal we would have been out now but they didn’t, they farted around trying for delay after delay hoping that the process would never end and a second referendum would have to be called. However, now Boris is cutting through the sh!t and getting us out, with or without a deal. Happy days.
I don't think it's your religion, ColburnColburn_Claret wrote:They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.
Seriously we have fallen a long way appeasing peoples thin skins, or egos. In a country that used to be live and let live, we really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.
Please provide one example where being Christian and or British is sinful.Colburn_Claret wrote:They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.
Seriously we have fallen a long way appeasing peoples thin skins, or egos. In a country that used to be live and let live, we really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.
I assume you mean the deal that Johnson himself voted for?BennyD wrote:May wanted us to stay in and Johnson wants us to leave and that’s why we are better off with Johnson. There is now talk of trying to revive May’s deal rather than leave without a trade deal..
Like banning people from wearing English flags at football.SonofPog wrote:Please provide one example where being Christian and or British is sinful.
The government haven't refused to act on anything.Colburn_Claret wrote:It's what every democracy should be, Government listening to people. Remember it was the Government that gave people the vote in the first place. Refusing to act on it ........
It does have a mandate, leave won the referendum, this is their choice, they own it. Everyone who voted leave now prefers a no deal brexit. More than half would even be happy to see it break up the UK. Well, here it comes, your wildest Brexit dreams are about to come trueJohnMcGreal wrote:An unelected PM shutting down Parliament to force through a No Deal Brexit which has no public mandate.
"These days you get arrested and thrown in jail if you say you're English, don't you?"Colburn_Claret wrote:They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.
Seriously we have fallen a long way appeasing peoples thin skins, or egos. In a country that used to be live and let live, we really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.
You may be happy to make MPs the ultimate bosses, but I'm not. In a democracy, the people are sovereign. If Parliament is sovereign, then you don't have a democracy.JohnMcGreal wrote:When MPs return to Parliament next week, they should legislate to revoke Article 50 with immediate effect, with an election or referendum to follow. Remind Johnson and his cronies that Parliament is sovereign, and always has been.
Sinful? I would say idiotic, doubly so if you throw in believe in some sort of magical water-into-wine ********.Colburn_Claret wrote:We really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.
It seems to be the theme of replies to my post, so I'll answer yoursSpijed wrote:So you're saying there is nothing wrong with racism then?
You want to throw people out of the country for expressing the belief that the UK should implement Sharia law? Preaching hate and encouraging violence are already illegal. But demanding Sharia Law? Really? That's quite a free speech problem you have there. MLK and Ghandi would probably disapprove of your rather extreme beliefs.Colburn_Claret wrote:It seems to be the theme of replies to my post, so I'll answer yours
I hate racists with a passion.
My 2 greatest figures from history are Martin Luther King and Ghandhi.
I think we should welcome other cultures and religions to this country.
I dont agree that I should have to change my life in anyway, because it would upset their beliefs. When in Rome do as the Romans do. Why come here if they dont like our culture or history.
So, as an example, Muslims who wish to practice their religion is fine, they bother no one, no one should bother them. However, the likes of Chaudry, preaching haterd on the steps of Mosques in London, encouraging people to violence. Insisting on Sharia Law, I'd kick them out of the country without batting an eyelid. If there wasnt a law to allow this, I'd pass one. Only you get arseholes supporting their rights to do this. The very same people wouldnt bat an eyelid at a Christian, preaching hate on the steps of a Cathedral having the book thrown at them.
It's all hypocritical bullshit, and I'm not a hypocrite. I have Asian friends, not many but only because it isnt heavily populated by the Asian community I've never had any problem with them. I can also say that if I told them this, just as I've written it, they'd agree with me. Does that make them racist.
Just to check, this is the Anjem Choudary that was convicted under the Terrorism Act and sent to jail?Colburn_Claret wrote:It seems to be the theme of replies to my post, so I'll answer yours
I hate racists with a passion.
My 2 greatest figures from history are Martin Luther King and Ghandhi.
I think we should welcome other cultures and religions to this country.
I dont agree that I should have to change my life in anyway, because it would upset their beliefs. When in Rome do as the Romans do. Why come here if they dont like our culture or history.
So, as an example, Muslims who wish to practice their religion is fine, they bother no one, no one should bother them. However, the likes of Chaudry, preaching haterd on the steps of Mosques in London, encouraging people to violence. Insisting on Sharia Law, I'd kick them out of the country without batting an eyelid. If there wasnt a law to allow this, I'd pass one. Only you get arseholes supporting their rights to do this. The very same people wouldnt bat an eyelid at a Christian, preaching hate on the steps of a Cathedral having the book thrown at them.
It's all hypocritical bullshit, and I'm not a hypocrite. I have Asian friends, not many but only because it isnt heavily populated by the Asian community I've never had any problem with them. I can also say that if I told them this, just as I've written it, they'd agree with me. Does that make them racist.
Colburn_Claret wrote:They wouldnt get away with it in Britain, rejecting any form of religion is a big No No, unless its Christian of course.
Seriously we have fallen a long way appeasing peoples thin skins, or egos. In a country that used to be live and let live, we really get it drummed into us that being Christian and or British, and proud of it is somehow sinful.
Then released to continue where he left off spewing out bile against a country and culture he despises. All that at a hefty cost to the taxpayer.aggi wrote:Just to check, this is the Anjem Choudary that was convicted under the Terrorism Act and sent to jail?
Yes. People get released from prison sometimes. As a liberal I apologise for us not locking everyone up forever.Lord Rothbury wrote:Then released to continue where he left off spewing out bile against a country and culture he despises. All that at a hefty cost to the taxpayer.
ILB
How many years did it take for them to eventually do what should have been done straight away. As I said in my post, it's an example.aggi wrote:Just to check, this is the Anjem Choudary that was convicted under the Terrorism Act and sent to jail?
Who says it's offensive to wear a crucifix, or that it's racist to fly those flags?Colburn_Claret wrote:How many years did it take for them to eventually do what should have been done straight away. As I said in my post, it's an example.
Explain to me why its offensive to wear a crucifix?
Why is it racist to fly a cross of St. George or the Union Jack? and I do realise it's been purloined by the far right, well let's take it back again. You dont get rid of the far right by banishing our national flag.
I am why the hell shouldnt I be.Imploding Turtle wrote:I love it. In the same thread on the same day you've complained about other people being thin-skinned, AND complained that other people have negative opinions of you if you're overtly proud to be Christian and British.
It's not a very good example given that he got sent to jail and is classed as a terrorist.Colburn_Claret wrote:How many years did it take for them to eventually do what should have been done straight away. As I said in my post, it's an example.
Explain to me why its offensive to wear a crucifix?
Why is it racist to fly a cross of St. George or the Union Jack? and I do realise it's been purloined by the far right, well let's take it back again. You dont get rid of the far right by banishing our national flag.
They've been, or were, banned from some schools, because they might offend some people.Tall Paul wrote:Who says it's offensive to wear a crucifix, or that it's racist to fly those flags?
Apart from you, of course.
People spew bile and hatred all the time here, in rightwing newspapers.Lord Rothbury wrote:Then released to continue where he left off spewing out bile against a country and culture he despises. All that at a hefty cost to the taxpayer.
ILB
Good god you're a ******* idiot, aren't you?Colburn_Claret wrote:I am why the hell shouldnt I be.
Just as people are proud to be Pakistani and Muslim.
Just as people are proud to be Israeli and Jewish.
Just as people are proud to be Catholic and Italian.
Why is it you equate being proud of one thing as anti a.n.other.
I'm proud of being a Burnley fan, does that mean I dont like, or respect, other football fans. These are the siry fairy morals that I spoke of to Zizkov, I'm supposed to be ashamed of who I am, of where I come from.
You're living in that politically correct world, that cant see the wood for the trees.
Do you have any examples of this? I live in a very multicultural borough, and no flags nor signs of religion are banned here.Colburn_Claret wrote:They've been, or were, banned from some schools, because they might offend some people.
aggi wrote:It's not a very good example given that he got sent to jail and is classed as a terrorist.
It's not.
Look around at a football match, there are loads of St George and Union flags. Go and have a look at the top of Buckingham palace today, there's one there as well.
Link please?Colburn_Claret wrote:They've been, or were, banned from some schools, because they might offend some people.
Try going to America, or France, you cant turn around without seeing the Stars and Stripes, or the Tricolour all over the place.aggi wrote:It's not a very good example given that he got sent to jail and is classed as a terrorist.
It's not.
Look around at a football match, there are loads of St George and Union flags. Go and have a look at the top of Buckingham palace today, there's one there as well.