RingoMcCartney wrote:And when all , what was being cited as "fact based evidence" that brexit will be a catastrophic disaster, doesn't actually materialise. Those that previously claimed it was "fact based evidence" will simply repeat what they did when their previous "evidence" failed to materialise. Which is then claim "aah, well, they were just predictions"
The old Remoaner "Get out of jail Free" Card .....
I think an examination of claims on both sides made before the referendum vote isn't going to come out in your favour. How close is Turkey to joining the EU? Where is the "easiest trade deal in history"? Who really holds "all the cards"? Has the Irish border issue really been a minor thing?
Three years on and it's all been exposed as bullshit. They were either too stupid to know, or they lied. And leavers have been conned. If you gave everyone back then a crystal ball showing us now, three years later and about to leave with no deal - and a government spending billions on making emergency plans to ensure food, medicine, and fuel don't run out - Leave would never have come even close to winning that referendum. That's how far the reality is from the predictions and promises made by leavers. "Take back control" wouldn't have had the appeal, if you added: "by spaffing billions of pounds up the wall just to ensure the basics of life like food, medicine, and fuel continue to arrive on our shores"
People who have been scammed often deny it to themselves, and the people around them. Con artists know this, and use it to further milk them. "You put some money aside for your grandchildren. If you can cash those bonds in, it'll help us free up our cash and we'll get it back to you at twice the amount once the business is underway" You've been conned into agreeing to leave the EU, and now they're further conning you into leaving the EU without a deal. You would never have picked this had it been the only choice of leave to begin with (when I say "you" I mean most leave voters), but now you've done it, you're either on board, or you admit you've been scammed.
Back to those promises (or predictions) they made. Why is it none of them happened? We are here three years later and about to leave with no deal, when we were told we'd almost definitely have one, and not just a deal but a great deal. They will give you reasons why it hasn't happened, and interestingly none of their reasons have to do with them being wrong. Somehow it's the fault of remainers sabotaging everything. All the while, Leavers have occupied most of the important posts relating to this, and forced May into having red lines the EU would have no choice but to take a hard line against. They either lied to you and always wanted a no deal exit, or they were stupid and now find themselves in this position.
If we leave without a deal, "Mystic Andrew" predicts we'll try to become a tax haven for rich people, lower our food and environment standards to trade freely with the US, and eventually cut our working rights and conditions in order to compete with countries outside Europe. By this time the scammers will have nearly everything they want, and they'll take us out of the Human Rights Act, and replace it with something "British", but lesser, so those who have been scammed have no redress.
Mystic Ringo - I look forward to your predictions.
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