jrgbfc wrote:It OK for all these millionaire Tories like Boris Johnson and Rees-Mogg to be pushing for no deal, if it all goes tits up it's not them who'll lose their jobs or be struggling to pay the mortgage is it?

jrgbfc wrote:It OK for all these millionaire Tories like Boris Johnson and Rees-Mogg to be pushing for no deal, if it all goes tits up it's not them who'll lose their jobs or be struggling to pay the mortgage is it?

jrgbfc wrote:It OK for all these millionaire Tories like Boris Johnson and Rees-Mogg to be pushing for no deal, if it all goes tits up it's not them who'll lose their jobs or be struggling to pay the mortgage is it?

Colburn_Claret wrote:The problem is Spijed, that there are experts on both sides, saying opposite things. They cant all be right.
Many of the experts have vested interests, conveniently hidden.
People end up believing everything as fact, if it supports their point of view, and dismiss as lies everything that counters it.
You need to stand back and try and see through it all. Use your common sense and experience. Put yourself in their shoes if needed and work it out for yourself...

Colburn_Claret wrote:Not according to the Finance Director of Deutsche Bank...

Elizabeth wrote:Post 12032 you talk about both sides sensing victory Lancaster then go on to describe one of the sides as an uneasy alliance including remainers and dealers. The alliance according to you also includes Greens but why you separate them from remainers I don't know.
There are many weaknesses in your arguments but for the time being answer me this question. If they are both on the same side, how can both Remainers and Leavers sense victory when both want different outcomes following the Referendum.
The truth of the matter is that while you come over as very confused you are really just one of those remoaners of the worse kind.Pretending to want a deal but not clever enough to hide your tracks.
Look down your nose if you want with your comments 'whoever you are'

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Rees-Mogg must be tired he’s currently sprawled across the front bench during the debate. A great look!

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Imagine ever looking at that guy or listening to him and thinking “yeah, he wants what’s best for me”.

Billy Balfour wrote:You made me log-in to 'like' your post. I hate you.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:The other party leaders really stuck it to that half-wit, clown Johnson.
Brilliant.
He couldn't get out of there fast enough, now he's off to deselect Ken Clarke.
I knew there would be some twists and turns to come but I never thought we'd see the tory leadership sink so low.

Billy Balfour wrote:Wish I got paid for sleeping at work.

tiger76 wrote:Like the rest of the country he's bored by 3 years of delaying tactics,if the HOC want to revoke A50 just have the balls to say so.

MP'S could have voted for alternative options with the indicative votes but they wimped out.

At least be open about their motives,and no i don't agree with Boris's antics,the whole house has been dishonourable throughout the whole process.

Is it any wonder their ratings are at an all time low.

Tough for Labour to vote against a GE when they've been demanding exactly that for the last 2 years.

JohnMcGreal wrote:Fair play to those Tory rebels who defied the bullying tactics of their increasingly unhinged party of extremists.

Also to Corbyn who refused to rise to the bait and told Johnson he can stick his election until the legislation to prevent no deal has passed.

The government have tried to bully and sideline Parliament and it's blown up in their face. A great night of Parliamentary politics, and what a shame Boris Johnson is the one left sitting in the pile of **** he helped create.

Elizabeth wrote:Maybe those same Labour MPs just beginning to realise they are weeks away from losing their seats

Imploding Turtle wrote:So parliament has voted to take control of something, and the people who beat the drum for UK parliamentary control 3 years ago are now screeching like babies that it's "undemocratic".

tiger76 wrote:I'm not but it's easy to say they don't want no deal,most sensible people don't want no deal,it's a lot harder when they have to coalesce around a viable alternative,whether that's a different deal,a 2nd referendum,or revoking A50.

Boris's biggest mistake was aligning with Dominic Cummings,he should be nowhere near parliament.let alone no 10.

martin_p wrote:The 21 rebels haven’t got their marching orders yet. Apparently they’re getting a chance to redeem themselves in tomorrow’s vote. I’m not sure why any of them would want to do that.

martin_p wrote:The 21 rebels haven’t got their marching orders yet. Apparently they’re getting a chance to redeem themselves in tomorrow’s vote. I’m not sure why any of them would want to do that.

martin_p wrote:Maybe those MPs who are not getting their no deal Brexit might start to see sense and realise that if they don’t start to soften their stance there’ll be no Brexit at all.

martin_p wrote:The 21 rebels haven’t got their marching orders yet. Apparently they’re getting a chance to redeem themselves in tomorrow’s vote. I’m not sure why any of them would want to do that.

Spijed wrote:Now confirmed they are being kicked out.

Most are very popular with the public who voted for them so that'll be a further 21 seats the Tories will lose (Assuming they stand as independents), in addition to the 13 in Scotland.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:How will you all feel if we are still in the EU on 1st November?

Spijed wrote:Now confirmed they are being kicked out.

Most are very popular with the public who voted for them so that'll be a further 21 seats the Tories will lose (Assuming they stand as independents), in addition to the 13 in Scotland.

Spijed wrote:Now confirmed they are being kicked out.

Most are very popular with the public who voted for them so that'll be a further 21 seats the Tories will lose (Assuming they stand as independents), in addition to the 13 in Scotland.

BennyD wrote:Well, I guess that’s the end of Brexit. The Westminster w4nkers have right royally f*cked the leavers; they have effectively blocked no deal and they won’t vote for a snap election, which means we will get extension after extension and more referenda until the Liberal intelligentsia get their way. WTF happened to democracy? the type where the public vote for what they want, not the self serving sh!t served up by Westminster. F*ck the lot of them.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Where are the Leavers?

Yooohooo.

BennyD wrote:Well, I guess that’s the end of Brexit. The Westminster w4nkers have right royally f*cked the leavers; they have effectively blocked no deal and they won’t vote for a snap election, which means we will get extension after extension and more referenda until the Liberal intelligentsia get their way. WTF happened to democracy? the type where the public vote for what they want, not the self serving sh!t served up by Westminster. F*ck the lot of them.