TheFamilyCat wrote:Good job we’ve got a big immigrant workforce here then, isn’t it?

And how many of those currently employed and counted as part of the record levels of employment are on those zero-hour contracts that you despise so much?

Many.

But they were here when the lies were being told by the IMF, HM Treasury, Osborne, Darling, Carney and the rest of the Remainer liars, about what effect the simple act of voting Leave would have on the numbers employed.

" A vote to Leave would be like putting a nuclear bomb under the British economy " Prime minister, David Cameron, June 2016.





Lies pure lies.

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RingoMcCartney wrote:Many.

But they were here when the lies were being told by the IMF, HM Treasury, Osborne, Darling, Carney and the rest of the Remainer liars, about what effect the simple act of voting Leave would have on the numbers employed.

" A vote to Leave would be like putting a nuclear bomb under the British economy " Prime minister, David Cameron, June 2016.





Lies pure lies.

So zero-hour contracts are unacceptable until you want to use them in your statistics? You are clearly a man of principal.

Lancasterclaret wrote:https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status ... 0715353088

Another Speaker that thinks they are running the show.

3rd most powerful position in the US political system.

Lancasterclaret wrote:3rd most powerful position in the US political system.

Tony Loughlan picking the team Monday night then

BleedingClaret wrote:Tony Loughlan picking the team Monday night then

The US Speaker of the House actually wields significant legislative power and isn't bound to impartiality in the way Bercow is in the UK. To use a crude and imperfect analogue, the office of Speaker would be more analogous to our Prime Minister were the UK to elect an executive (president) directly or the Queen to wield any real kind of powers. Football analogies don't work so well in this case, I'm afraid. The power to pick a team at a football club isn't separated into three branches. So yes, she's quite a powerful person.

BleedingClaret wrote:Another Speaker that thinks they are running the show.

Nothing new here.
Democrats have been saying this for months, (if not years). She's currently the leading Democrat so she's simply articulating the view / position of her party.

BleedingClaret wrote:Tony Loughlan picking the team Monday night then

Er, no

I'm sure if you actually looked at the reality.....oh hang on, yeah, its just like Tony Loughan picking the team.

Go on, whine about another Brexit thread. This deserves its own thread.

https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed- ... nt-footage" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is shocking, except not really.

There was nothing remotely close to this level of deception on the Remain side of the debate, and if there was then the brextremist would have been screaming blue bloody murder had Remain won - and they'd have had every right to too.

This kind of staged, organised propaganda is what we'd expect to see in fake democracies like Russia.

For those of you who don't have time to watch the 10 minute video on a Wednesday morning, it shows how a migrant attack against some girls was staged and photographed and then never used. And then it shows how a viral video supposedly showing how easy it was to get into the UK was faked. This video was spread by the Mail and the Express (because of course) two days before the referendum.

"But Remain lied too because emergency budget", they'll cry. **** em. An election isn't democratic if this is the level of propaganda and lies used to win it.

At this stage Brexit should be completely cancelled, and if there's no second referendum then so be it. Leave.eu is proof that the Leave side can't be trusted not to steal it with propaganda we'd expect to see from fascist parties in fascist/authoritarian countries. As i said repeatedly before the first vote was promised, this country is not equipped with the quality, unbiased journalism necessary to ensure that such a referendum is campaigned for fairly, and by which we can be reliably informed.

Is there anything about the Leave campaign that wasn't fake or lies?

How is it possible to be so triggered about Brexit at 5.30 in the morning 3 years after it was voted on?

Yay, another Brexit thread.........


When is this forum going to get a separate area for football and then everything else?

Perhaps we need to make sure there is something in the title that suggests it’s a Brexit thread so people who are not interested won’t click on it?

box_of_frogs wrote:Yay, another Brexit thread.........


When is this forum going to get a separate area for football and then everything else?

We need a referendum on that!

ClaretMoffitt wrote:How is it possible to be so triggered about Brexit at 5.30 in the morning 3 years after it was voted on?

I think it's classed as an obsession, a very extreme one.

The response on here pretty much reflects that of Aaron Banks when challenged with Channel 4 News's findings, ignore the message, shoot the messenger.

If I'd voted Leave this wouldn't sit comfortably with me at all.

Imploding Turtle wrote:
At this stage Brexit should be completely cancelled, and if there's no second referendum then so be it.

Agreed, the whole thing was based on lies but I don't understand how stupid people had to be to believe them. They were utterly transparent lies from the start.

The usual suspects, triggered to come on here and play the man, not the argument; again.

Lord Beamish wrote:The usual suspects, triggered to come on here and play the man, not the argument; again.

What's there to play?

They've surely gathered enough evidence to get a second referendum, or get the last one annulled, so why hasn't it been done yet?

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:What's there to play?

They've surely gathered enough evidence to get a second referendum, or get the last one annulled, so why hasn't it been done yet?

Triggered.

Lord Beamish wrote:Triggered.

Nah I'm just a gobshite remember...

If enough remainers cared they'd be in London bringing it to a standstill every single day until Brexit is stopped, or awareness is raised about the lies by leave.

As it is, London still seems to be functioning quite well.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Nah I'm just a gobshite remember...

If enough remainers cared they'd be in London bringing it to a standstill every single day until Brexit is stopped, or awareness is raised about the lies by leave.

As it is, London still seems to be functioning quite well.

Triggered.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
They've surely gathered enough evidence to get a second referendum, or get the last one annulled, so why hasn't it been done yet?

Because - as you surely know - it would destroy the Tory Party, with local constituency parties and ERG implacably anti-EU and unwilling to compromise on any plan.
May would have gone down some positive route of compromise a long time ago, were it not for the fact that about two thirds of the Parliamentary Party are held to ransom by the hard-right and daren't risk a Corbyn government.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: If enough remainers cared they'd be in London bringing it to a standstill every single day until Brexit is stopped, or awareness is raised about the lies by leave.
.

I think that most remainers are of working age and spend their days at work. They don't have much time on their hands.

It wasn't remainers who faked this
Its not remainers who scream abuse at foreigners
its not a remainer who shot and killed an MP
Its not a remainer news editor who decided to put the sentencing details on Page 33
Its not a remainer journalist who hid evidence of Aaron Banks and Leave election expenses fiddling in a her loft
Its not a remainers who go on marches that require thousands of police officers just to avoid it kicking off
Its not remainers who don't get the difference between patriotism and nationalism
Its not remainers who are in the EDL and the various fascist equivalents
Its not remainers who are happy to vote for racists, but its ok because they wear a suit and sound a bit posh
Its not remainers funding a convicted football hooligan, wife beater and mortgage fraudster to live in a life of luxury because he hates foreigners
Its not remainers pretending this is all about the supremacy of the UK parliament and then acting all outraged when said parliament exercises that supremacy
Its not remainers who believe **** on the side of a bus
Its not remainers who shout "thats what we voted for" when you tell them that its looking like a ten to thirty year reduction in growth
Its not remainers who give a **** about the colour of their passport
its not remainers who give death threats on social media to remain MPs
Its not remainers who ignore reality and think that everything will be magically solved by leaving with "No Deal"

And absolutely ******* crucially, its not remainers who post on here who make you realise that it might actually be true that Wayne Hennessey doesn't actually know anything about the Nazis at all.

You lot are happy to back all this, so why would a fake video make any difference to that list?

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nil_desperandum wrote:Because - as you surely know - it would destroy the Tory Party, with local constituency parties and ERG implacably anti-EU and unwilling to compromise on any plan.
May would have gone down some positive route of compromise a long time ago, were it not for the fact that about two thirds of the Parliamentary Party are held to ransom by the hard-right and daren't risk a Corbyn government.

Let it be destroyed then, it's already shown it's incapable of running the country.

nil_desperandum wrote:I think that most remainers are of working age and spend their days at work. They don't have much time on their hands.

Bank holiday weekend coming up, problem solved.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Bank holiday weekend coming up, problem solved.

Thankfully most of us are taking a very welcome break form brexit over this Easter period.
Time for the whole nation to stand back and reflect a bit I think.

nil_desperandum wrote:Thankfully most of us are taking a very welcome break form brexit over this Easter period.
Time for the whole nation to stand back and reflect a bit I think.

Back to my original point then, if remainers cared enough they'd be down in London, or any city bringing it to a standstill to highlight the lies that are proven to have been told by the Leave side.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Back to my original point then, if remainers cared enough they'd be down in London, or any city bringing it to a standstill to highlight the lies that are proven to have been told by the Leave side.

Whats the point?

Bellends with nothing better to do would just moan about them doing on social media, while ignoring the stuff that I've highlighted above and ignoring anything that suggests Brexit might not be a good idea.

Lancasterclaret wrote:It wasn't remainers who faked this
Its not remainers who scream abuse at foreigners
its not a remainer who shot and killed an MP
Its not a remainer news editor who decided to put the sentencing details on Page 33
Its not a remainer journalist who hid evidence of Aaron Banks and Leave election expenses fiddling in a her loft
Its not a remainers who go on marches that require thousands of police officers just to avoid it kicking off
Its not remainers who don't get the difference between patriotism and nationalism
Its not remainers who are in the EDL and the various fascist equivalents
Its not remainers who are happy to vote for racists, but its ok because they wear a suit and sound a bit posh
Its not remainers funding a convicted football hooligan, wife beater and mortgage fraudster to live in a life of luxury because he hates foreigners
Its not remainers pretending this is all about the supremacy of the UK parliament and then acting all outraged when said parliament exercises that supremacy
Its not remainers who believe **** on the side of a bus
Its not remainers who shout "thats what we voted for" when you tell them that its looking like a ten to thirty year reduction in growth
Its not remainers who give a **** about the colour of their passport
its not remainers who give death threats on social media to remain MPs
Its not remainers who ignore reality and think that everything will be magically solved by leaving with "No Deal"

And absolutely ******* crucially, its not remainers who post on here who make you realise that it might actually be true that Wayne Hennessey doesn't actually know anything about the Nazis at all.

You lot are happy to back all this, so why would a fake video make any difference to that list?

Yes but apart from all that Lancaster what did the Remainers ever do for us!!

I blame Brexit

To be fair. The last lot who went for a stroll around London for the afternoon looked well beyond working age

Anyway, before work beckons a quick look at North Stand Chat is recommended!

I don't know wether it was faked or not, although anyone trying to do that would be an arsehole.

But I like the vast majority of the 17.4 million haven't seen it before. It didn't influence my, or probably their vote. Claiming, rightly or wrongly, that this is FAKE news, doesn't alter my opinion on Brexit one jot. I'd be gobsmacked if it affected anyone else either. Why can't you just accept that some people, the majority in fact, just wanted to Leave, without trying to make excuses for our decision. We knew what we were doing. It's been well over two years. All my friends and acquaintances who argued for Leave, still want to Leave. Nothing has changed, nothing is going to change now. So these new threads are just pointless really. Unless it's all about LOOK AT ME.

Colburn_Claret wrote:I don't know wether it was faked or not, although anyone trying to do that would be an arsehole.

IT TELLS YOU ITS FAKED AT THE START. IT IS A FAKE. YOU ARE IGNORING THE EVIDENCE OF YOUR OWN EYES......*checks posters name*...oh

Lancasterclaret wrote:Whats the point?

Bellends with nothing better to do would just moan about them doing on social media, while ignoring the stuff that I've highlighted above and ignoring anything that suggests Brexit might not be a good idea.

So it's fine for remainers to complain on social media then?
But if leavers do it they're bellends?
What about that poor effort of leavers wandered down to London, the remainers on here mocked and moaned about it.

Was it a leaver who shot and killed the MP?

Sit at home then, that's your choice.

This, by the way, is the purpose of them screaming "FAKE NEWS" at everything in the news. It's so that when the media catches them red-handed their supporters have been conditioned to automatically reject anything and everything that news organisation says (unless it happens to be positive about them, then they're big fans, temporarily).

Ok Sid, see that list

Thats the side you are on, whether you like it or not.

Lancasterclaret wrote:Ok Sid, see that list

Thats the side you are on, whether you like it or not.

Nope, not me

I won't kill anyone for starters, nor support the killing of her or any politician.

I've stated before, leave or remain, I'm not overly fussed either way because I don't believe life will change drastically for me.

If I was passionate about either option I'd get off my arse about it, but I'm not, so I don't.
I get up and go to work, live my life etc.

So you can take me off your list because it isn't something I'm on.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Nope, not me

I won't kill anyone for starters, nor support the killing of her or any politician.

I've stated before, leave or remain, I'm not overly fussed either way because I don't believe life will change drastically for me.

If I was passionate about either option I'd get off my arse about it, but I'm not, so I don't.
I get up and go to work, live my life etc.

So you can take me off your list because it isn't something I'm on.

"I was only obeying orders"

It's ok to call leave voters Nazis because David Lammy and James Obrien do it

Damo wrote:It's ok to call leave voters Nazis because David Lammy and James Obrien do it

Don't you ever get sick of your own bullshit?

Have you ever once considered not making **** up?

Imploding Turtle wrote:Don't you ever get sick of your own bullshit?

Have you ever once considered not making **** up?

Have Lammy and Obrien not compared some leave voters to Nazis?

Damo wrote:It's ok to call leave voters Nazis because David Lammy and James Obrien do it

followed by

Have Lammy and Obrien not compared SOME leave voters to Nazis?

First is wrong, second is correct (and perfectly fair)

Now all the politicians, and Farage, are claiming they said the first one, when they actually said the second one.

In a nutshell, thats their tactics in two posts.

Lancasterclaret wrote:"I was only obeying orders"

I don't tend to obey orders from anyone that would result in someone getting killed, but you carry on throwing labels around like confetti, you'll get it to stick at some point I'm sure.

just watched this, made me chuckle...

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"We've made our decision...!"

TheFamilyCat wrote:So zero-hour contracts are unacceptable until you want to use them in your statistics? You are clearly a man of principal.

Zero hours contracts aren't good by any stretch. But people are on them now, and people were on them in 2016, and many of them were supposed to be signing on by now. According to the IMF, HM Treasury, Osborne, Darling, Carney and the cabal of Remoaners who were telling lies about what would happen to employment if we had the audacity to vote Leave.

They've been proven to be outright lies and your deflection simply cannot hide the fact. Perhaps you were gullible enough to fall for the lies and you're psychologically wedded to that belief. Which explains why you display such evangelical zeal about over turning the biggest single expression of democracy the nation has ever witnessed.

The depths which some are prepared to plunge to save face. I don't know!

The Office of the United States Trade Representative is part of the Executive Office of the President.

Put simply, Trump is in charge of trade.

Just as well. Between Pelosi using the GFA for political gain and Obama saying we are at the back of the queue, we clearly cannot rely on the Democrats.

The penny will probably never drop for the hyper-liberals that Trump is good for the U.K. but they’d better get used to it because after all this Brexit mess I suspect we will get our version of Trump sooner or later. Brexit is not the biggest issue facing us, but it is going to be a cause of bigger things to come.