400k a week for Ramsey

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400k a week for Ramsey

Post by willsclarets » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:36 pm

I didn't think I could be shocked at the money thrown about in football anymore. But 400k a week for Aaron Ramsey takes the biscuit.
They're so far removed from reality and from the fans that pay to watch them, it genuinely puts me off the game.
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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:38 pm

Get his agent in charge of Brexit negotiations as soon as possible.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:39 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Get his agent in charge of Brexit negotiations as soon as possible.
When he's sorted Brexit, get him to have a word with my gaffer.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Venkys4eva » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:41 pm

willsclarets wrote: it genuinely puts me off the game.
Me to, its obscene.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:52 pm

Shows you how far Juve's standards have fallen.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Sutton-Claret » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:52 pm

His diving skills alone are worth an extra 200k
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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by martin_p » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:53 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Shows you how far Juve's standards have fallen.
He’s an above average premier league player, but nothing more.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by SGr » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:59 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Shows you how far Juve's standards have fallen.
Must have missed them signing Cristiano Ronaldo and becoming one of the favourites for the CL then :shock:

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by tiger76 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:03 pm

I can just about accept players like Messi and Ronaldo getting crazy money,those two are exceptional talents,and no doubt bring a huge amount of commercial revenue to their club/clubs in the latter's case,but Ramsey is a pretty decent midfielder,certainly no world beater and i can't see Juve fans flocking to buy his shirt or other merchandise. :?

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:11 pm

And a poster on here suggested we should be in for him ha ha

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:19 pm

I wonder what signing on fee he’ll get on top of that as well.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by CombatClaret » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:20 pm

£100 million a season to spend and we can't even sign a free agent!!!
Sack the board, utter lack of ambition.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by SGr » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:23 pm

According to other reports he’s not even on that - more like £250k, which seems more plausible.

Ornstein, the journo who broke the news is fed info by Arsenal. Makes sense that they would want to make it seem like they couldn’t match Juve’s offer when the reality is that Ramsey had no intention of staying.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:26 pm

Just one more example of the madness that is football now.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Cheshireclaret » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:30 pm

I suspect this will happen more and more with these soon to be out of contract players.

Yes, Aaron Ramsey is being paid £400,000 per week but let's assume he were under contract and Juventus had to pay a transfer fee of, say, £30m. That's probably conservative in today's whacky market but on a 4 year contract that's the equivalent to circa £144,000 per week. Increase that transfer fee to £50m and it's the equivalent of £240,000 per week.

That's quite possibly a reason why these astronomical salaries are paid to players like Ramsey who are signed on a free (yes, he probably has been paid a signing on fee, but nothing like as much as people may think if he's on £400,000 per week).

Mind-blowing and completely mad, but a glimpse of what's to come, I'm afraid.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:34 pm

He’s not even the best Welshman to ever play for Juventus.
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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by claretfern » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:38 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:He’s not even the best Welshman to ever play for Juventus.
Very Good, that.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:38 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:He’s not even the best Welshman to ever play for Juventus.
Ah....Sir John Charles, one of the greatest ever.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:41 pm

SGr wrote:Must have missed them signing Cristiano Ronaldo and becoming one of the favourites for the CL then :shock:
Ramsey's the same standard of signing as Ronaldo ? Wow ! :shock: :shock:

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:41 pm

Its only cos hes gone on a free

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:59 pm

When you see the income of the top clubs why shouldn’t the players, who generate the revenue, get a decent wedge?
These are the elite of the elite. Just like your rock gods they fill stadiums.
I’d rather they got it than the owners.
BTW although he’s a diving twohat he is an exceptional goalscoring midfielder.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by karatekid » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:02 pm

£1.6 million a month. Does anyone know if they have a 50% tax band in Italy or is it even higher. The italian treasury must be rubbing their hands together.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Stayingup » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:06 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:He’s not even the best Welshman to ever play for Juventus.

Far from it in fact. Very far
Well said.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by South West Claret. » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:12 pm

Overrated and over here for the time being, if someone is daft enough to pay these outlandish money then they obviously have to much for their own good.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:24 pm

karatekid wrote:£1.6 million a month. Does anyone know if they have a 50% tax band in Italy or is it even higher. The italian treasury must be rubbing their hands together.
there used to be a 2 year grace period around Europe for tax on a new immigrant (don't know if it still stands) will still have to pay tax here though if he keeps his passportwhich I think is less than Italy

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by SGr » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:48 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Ramsey's the same standard of signing as Ronaldo ? Wow ! :shock: :shock:
How many players are though? He adds a different dimension to their midfield and they’ve not payed a penny in transfer fees for him.

It’s not as mad as you think.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Spijed » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:59 pm

SGr wrote:How many players are though? He adds a different dimension to their midfield and they’ve not payed a penny in transfer fees for him.

It’s not as mad as you think.
He's now going to earn more than Kevin De Bruyne. I know which player I'd prefer in my team.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by tiger76 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:14 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:When you see the income of the top clubs why shouldn’t the players, who generate the revenue, get a decent wedge?
These are the elite of the elite. Just like your rock gods they fill stadiums.
I’d rather they got it than the owners.
BTW although he’s a diving twohat he is an exceptional goalscoring midfielder.
No-one denies that the players generate the big bucks,and they should be well paid,what many posters are questioning is he worth such a large salary.

I'd take issue with your last sentence he's a diving twohat that's true,as for him being an exceptional goalscoring midfielder,i beg to differ he had a very good return in 2013-14,when he hit double figures in the PL alone,but this one campaign apart he's been average at best,added to that he has a questionable injury history.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by SGr » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:16 am

Spijed wrote:He's now going to earn more than Kevin De Bruyne. I know which player I'd prefer in my team.
It's a common trade off when a player is going for free, since the player ultimately decides where he goes. A good few top clubs were in for Ramsey. If De Bruyne was available for free this coming summer he'd be offered a hell of a lot more.

Of course you'd rather have De Bruyne in your team, but he was an enormously bigger investment for City than Ramsey is for Juventus.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by SGr » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:19 am

I'd also like to reiterate that the figure of £400k almost certainly won't be accurate. Not even close.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:37 am

Chester Perry wrote:there used to be a 2 year grace period around Europe for tax on a new immigrant (don't know if it still stands) will still have to pay tax here though if he keeps his passportwhich I think is less than Italy
There certainly wasn't for the likes of me lol

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by willsclarets » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:01 am

SGr wrote:How many players are though? He adds a different dimension to their midfield and they’ve not payed a penny in transfer fees for him.

It’s not as mad as you think.

It is. There's been quite a few threads on agents recently, and one of the conventions of transfer dealings they've managed to worm into football is rolling the transfer fee into a salary package where the player is on a free. Making them millions in the process. Why is that not madness? There's a market value for the player for which the selling club are compensated, and a parallel wage value for his services at the new club. Where there isn't a need to compensate the selling club, I don't see it as a natural step to pay the player (and agent) 200% more or whatever it works out at for the same services/ability you're getting on the pitch. It's become normal, but it isn't right.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by IanMcL » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:36 am

CombatClaret wrote:£100 million a season to spend and we can't even sign a free agent!!!
Sack the board, utter lack of ambition.
Ramsey would take a large chunk, on his own!

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by dpinsussex » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:39 am

Good luck to the lad.
If you can negotiate a deal like that then congrats. Enjoy it whilst he has a career.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Sleeping Cat » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:34 am

Fair play to him. As someone mentioned, not paying a transfer fee allows the player to command a bigger wage. I'm not sure why this happens, but it does seem to be the case.

Stagnated under Wenger and had a few injuries keeping him out at times. Versatile, sometimes to his own detriment. Always thought he should be in the Arsenal team week in week out. This move could rejuvenate him at a crucial time in his career. I think he'll do very well there.

Its no more obscene than top music or film stars or even business moguls. He has shown he is capable of being one of the top midfielders in the world and why should football be any different.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by BigChaCha » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:47 am

I'm guessing Juventus haven't looked at his injury record then.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by JTClaret » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:12 pm

I think he's a good player.
Whether I think he's worth 400k a week is irrelevant - Juve can afford it

I'm amazed people are still getting upset by transfer fees and wages

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Blackrod » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:50 pm

It’s got to the stage where if someone was paid £1million per day you’d hardly butt an eyelid. Becoming a bit obscene and distasteful. Clearly clubs like Man City and Madrid have a never ending supply of money and can pay this but how many clubs can ? It looked as though the Sky Money was levelling off but maybe the worldwide audiences and subscriptions are rising even if not in the UK. Even Chelsea can’t compete with the likes of ManCity and it makes you wonder if backers like Abramovich will get bored with it.

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by willsclarets » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:53 pm

I'd say domestically revenue has probably peaked or levelled (at a guess), but there's so much growth in the middle and far east I can't see a bubble bursting for a while.
It's not that I'm "upset", it's just part and parcel of a changing sport from the one I grew up loving, and it's a bit of a shame. I don't blame Aaron Ramsey for a second of course, I'd take whatever was on offer too!

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Re: 400k a week for Ramsey

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:17 pm

Tammy "Donkey" Abraham is on £55k a week things have just got stupid

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