I've sacked him off now, can't be arsed trying to have a sane discussion with him, he's clearly off his head.Stayingup wrote:Why do you try to converse with this plonker? Your wasting your time hes not in touch with real world I wish he/she had writers cramp.
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Drugs.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I've sacked him off now, can't be arsed trying to have a sane discussion with him, he's clearly off his head.
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He needs some different ones.Jakubclaret wrote:Drugs.
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That’s a bold statement from a guy who talked to himself via two twitter accounts in a bizarre attempt to trick people into not noticing he’d set up another username on here.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I've sacked him off now, can't be arsed trying to have a sane discussion with him, he's clearly off his head.
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I posted initially, a reasonable post which got picked up on, I fought my corner for as long as I could then retreated, then observed you 2 going round in circles for days, I said from the start it’s a can of worms & it’s best forgotten about & nothing has changed that view since.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:He needs some different ones.
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Never had two twitter accounts but thanks for tryingBordeauxclaret wrote:That’s a bold statement from a guy who talked to himself via two twitter accounts in a bizarre attempt to trick people into not noticing he’d set up another username on here.
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To be honest, Lancaster is starting to come across as a wannabe turtle!Stayingup wrote:I mean really why dont you stop being a little naive student and grow up. Its a real world out rhere.
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GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:What's the point in this chat now?
You're so excitable you can't be reasoned with at all, not even a little bit.
They went to join and lived in an Islamic caliphate that is proven to have executed anyone they felt like, they tortured, raped and murdered at will.
They're guilty of being part of that group and an accessory to those crimes.
You clearly don't see it as being an issue though and you'd rather we let them wander around freely.
You're correct in that we can't lock them all up, I understand that, but neither should they be completely free to wander around when it's very possible that they'll be still harbouring ill will to the UK because of some stupid backwards desert religion.
I have no issue with banning those who we can from this country, something you see to have an issue with because they won't get a trial
All we can hope now is that those who return here and have been desensitized to, and possibly encouraged to partake in, violence, murder and rape are able to reintegrate into society but we shall see how that works out for us.
But hey, so long as you're happy then that's all that really matters in this world, clearly.
I'm bored of watching you prattle on now, you're more interested in defending fundamentalists and their right to wander around this country freely and you won't have your mind changed about it.
Enjoy beating yourself into a frenzy about it.
Oh my ******* god.
Once again, i ask you some extremely simple questions about YOUR opinion and you can't answer them. What the **** is wrong with you that makes it so difficult for you to express an opinion and then answer questions about that opinion?
Jesus ******* Christ.
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Cleveleys_claret wrote:Oh come on IT. Sooner you are banned again the better. Such a sad individual. Bet you jerk off to pics of Diane Abbott
All i did was ask questions. He corrected me on something, i accepted his correction and then asked him to elaborate on his point.
Why the **** is that controversial? What is it about asking someone to elaborate on their points that makes you think the best way to reply is to post something like this?
What the **** is wrong with you people?
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And what is wrong with jerking off to pics of Dianne Abbott...?Cleveleys_claret wrote:Oh come on IT. Sooner you are banned again the better. Such a sad individual. Bet you jerk off to pics of Diane Abbott
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Dunno you'd better ask Jezza.tim_noone wrote:And what is wrong with jerking off to pics of Dianne Abbott...?
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I'm 46 years of age!I mean really why dont you stop being a little naive student and grow up. Its a real world out rhere.
The difference between me and you is that I live in the real world, and you live in some weird place where you can pick and choose when to enforce laws.
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To be honest, Lancaster is starting to come across as a wannabe turtle!
Nope
Just know the difference between right and wrong and what civilized countries should do and shouldn't.
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Lancasterclaret wrote:Nope
civilized
American spelling,
You sure you're not a wannabe Turtle?
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I blame spell check
My spelling is absolutely appalling these days, so I'd be lost without it
My spelling is absolutely appalling these days, so I'd be lost without it
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Imploding Turtle wrote:Interesting. You joke about me killing myself in a suicide bombing yet get terribly offended when i make dark jokes too. Hypocrite much?
Wrong. You’re getting good at being wrong
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Ha.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Never had two twitter accounts but thanks for trying
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Breaking news 2 more to defect to independent party lets hope its IT and LC then we can get some additional speculation on all subjects not football related.
On another note was surprised that no body especially the 2 break away group did not help me in the citizen ship of the son, I have looked at several places for reference and my own understanding. It used to be that babys born in another country took the same as the parents usually the father but I think the law changed that it was the mother unless the father had a better country. But I think children born in a Muslim country still take the fathers citizen ship.
On another note was surprised that no body especially the 2 break away group did not help me in the citizen ship of the son, I have looked at several places for reference and my own understanding. It used to be that babys born in another country took the same as the parents usually the father but I think the law changed that it was the mother unless the father had a better country. But I think children born in a Muslim country still take the fathers citizen ship.
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Are you or his mother a British citizen by descent? Or were one of you born or naturalised here? If it's the former then i don't think he has an automatic right to British citizenship. But i didn't read too much into it, and i won't, because i don't care enough to help you. But there's a link i posted earlier in this thread that could help you out. You can find it yourself.pureclaret wrote:Breaking news 2 more to defect to independent party lets hope its IT and LC then we can get some additional speculation on all subjects not football related.
On another note was surprised that no body especially the 2 break away group did not help me in the citizen ship of the son, I have looked at several places for reference and my own understanding. It used to be that babys born in another country took the same as the parents usually the father but I think the law changed that it was the mother unless the father had a better country. But I think children born in a Muslim country still take the fathers citizen ship.
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Back on topic. The child has never set foot in Britain. The father is Dutch and the child would take the domicile of the father. The British citizenship would have to be applied for in respect of the child. What if the Dutch and British don’t grant citizenship ? I don’t claim to be an expert on this and I am just asking the question.
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She’s been spotted...
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It'd be worth fetching her back for an investigation, if only for the police line up. Is this the women you saw chucking heads in bins? With a dozen lasses head to toe in black.Lord Beamish wrote:She’s been spotted...
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For what reason would the British government refuse to grant citizenship to the kid?Blackrod wrote:Back on topic. The child has never set foot in Britain. The father is Dutch and the child would take the domicile of the father. The British citizenship would have to be applied for in respect of the child. What if the Dutch and British don’t grant citizenship ? I don’t claim to be an expert on this and I am just asking the question.
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Today she says she's "shocked" by the withdrawal of her citizenship. Which is interesting because earlier this week she "wasn't fazed" at seeing severed heads lying around in dustbins. She's not had a change of mind. If ISIS were still rampaging through the middle east, she'd be quite happy with her role as a baby maker. The issue she has is that they're not.
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The child would grow up in a family with a history of radicalisation knowing their mother had her citizenship revoked by the British government. They probably wouldn't grow up to be a terrorist but why take the riskImploding Turtle wrote:For what reason would the British government refuse to grant citizenship to the kid?
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So we're back to punishing children for the sins of their parents.Rumbletonk wrote:The child would grow up in a family with a history of radicalisation knowing their mother had her citizenship revoked by the British government. They probably wouldn't grow up to be a terrorist but why take the risk
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Is growing up in Bangladesh such a punishment? As far as I can see it, we’re not taking away something the child has known, are we? It’s not like it’s grown up in Britain and then been deported. Surely Bangladesh has to be a better option than war-torn Syria. I think it’s more important that mother and baby are kept together.Imploding Turtle wrote:So we're back to punishing children for the sins of their parents.
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Do you think it is a risk worth taking and if so why?
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That was to IT
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Dike Muff wrote:Is growing up in Bangladesh such a punishment? As far as I can see it, we’re not taking away something the child has known, are we? It’s not like it’s grown up in Britain and then been deported. Surely Bangladesh has to be a better option than war-torn Syria. I think it’s more important that mother and baby are kept together.
So you think it's better that mother and baby are kept together.
But you also want to ban the mother, a British citizen, from Britain without a trial because her beliefs are too dangerous for our society.
I think I've found a gaping chasm in your logic.
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Yes. I do. And i refer you to countless previous posts as to why, but in summary: because freedom.Rumbletonk wrote:Do you think it is a risk worth taking and if so why?
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Well you bask in your holier than thou foolishness. Hopefully those making the decision will have more common sense and put your safety first.
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Where did I say I wanted that? I just pointed out that, if it happened, it would not be the end of the World. I never said I wanted that. In fact, the only thing I strongly hinted at was my desire for the mother and child not to be separated.Imploding Turtle wrote:So you think it's better that mother and baby are kept together.
But you also want to ban the mother, a British citizen, from Britain without a trial because her beliefs are too dangerous for our society.
I think I've found a gaping chasm in your logic.
I personally feel that this Girl and her child are our responsibility, like it or not(and I certainly don’t like it).
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Dike Muff wrote:Where did I say I wanted that? I just pointed out that, if it happened, it would not be the end of the World. I never said I wanted that. In fact, the only thing I strongly hinted at was my desire for the mother and child not to be separated.
I personally feel that this Girl and her child are our responsibility, like it or not(and I certainly don’t like it).
I'm making an assumption that you want her to be refused entry to the UK. Feel free to correct me.
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Then maybe I’ve found a gaping hole in your reasoning?Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm making an assumption that you want her to be refused entry to the UK. Feel free to correct me.
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Dike Muff wrote:Then maybe I’ve found a gaping hole in your reasoning?
Are you going to correct me, or was my assumption accurate?
Do you want her to be refused entry to the UK?
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He already told you he feels the girl and child are our responsibility. You're choosing to be argumentative and condescending which is pretty much what you do. Grow up
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Can you not read? I’ve said above that I believe that she and her child are our responsibility, even though I don’t like it.Imploding Turtle wrote:Are you going to correct me, or was my assumption accurate?
Do you want her to be refused entry to the UK?
F. Scott Fitzgerald said that the true test of a first class mind was the ability to hold two opposing views and yet still function. That’s what I’m doing.
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So Trump wants European countries to accept their citizens returning from Syria,but he won't do likewise with American citizens.
What a hypocrite https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47313657
What a hypocrite https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47313657
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That’s true, but I think this goes a lot further than the usual political opportunism. Everything about this, from the timing to the way it’s playing out in Westminster absolutely reeks of a government that’s about to call a general election.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Standard for all politicians then across the spectrum
A general election in which the Conservative party will portray themselves as the party that’s ‘tough on terrorism’ (because they’re prepared to strip people of their citizenship even if it means going against International law), and where Labour will be accused of being weak on terrorism (because they prefer International law to be upheld and the individual to be tried properly in the British justice system).
The print media will have a field day with it, people will go to the polls full of emotion (that worked out well last time) and the conservative party will probably just scrape a majority government together, despite all the damage they’ve done to this country in the last decade.
We’ll see how it pans out, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see a general election called in the very near future.
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Got a Conservative Party leaflet through my door this morning.
Maybe its a sign that the election is coming?
Can see the Tories winning it to be honest, though it would depend on people not voting tactically.
Maybe its a sign that the election is coming?
Can see the Tories winning it to be honest, though it would depend on people not voting tactically.
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The country hasn't got the stomach for another GE right now, you're just being desperate.
There is no credible opposition to the Tories or Labour and Tories would probably shade another win.
There is no credible opposition to the Tories or Labour and Tories would probably shade another win.
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The country hasn't got the stomach for a lot of things it used to value. Fought a couple of pretty brutal world wars to keep them, twice upon a time.
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How true. But neither of those wars were fought in the basis that those (few) British people who fought for Germany, should be allowed to return to the UK. So that's not one of the things that's changed.Imploding Turtle wrote:The country hasn't got the stomach for a lot of things it used to value. Fought a couple of pretty brutal world wars to keep them, twice upon a time.
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You reckon the right to a fair trial was high up on the list of things the Nazis would have kept here had they won the war, do you? Or was that just not one of the things we were defending when we defended our freedoms back then?dsr wrote:How true. But neither of those wars were fought in the basis that those (few) British people who fought for Germany, should be allowed to return to the UK. So that's not one of the things that's changed.
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Naughty!bob-the-scutter wrote:I hope your teacher made you clean it up!
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[quote="Imploding Turtle"]The country hasn't got the stomach for a lot of things it used to value. Fought a couple of pretty brutal world wars to keep them, twice upon a time
This country has the stomach to allow you to voice your opinions, rightly or wrongly. I doubt they gave their lives to protect those who hate our very way of life
This country has the stomach to allow you to voice your opinions, rightly or wrongly. I doubt they gave their lives to protect those who hate our very way of life
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They did actually.
Because they died protecting democracies, with all the pros and the cons that entails. I just wish more of you realised that for a democratic society to survive, you can't just pick and choose when to be a democratic society.
Because they died protecting democracies, with all the pros and the cons that entails. I just wish more of you realised that for a democratic society to survive, you can't just pick and choose when to be a democratic society.
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Are you talking about ISIS, or are you talking about the people who hate our way of life and want to sacrifice it because of ISIS?Rumbletonk wrote:
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Just heard her baby has died.
Sad news for the child.
Possibly resolves the return to UK matter
Sad news for the child.
Possibly resolves the return to UK matter