Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by bob-the-scutter » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:38 pm

tim_noone wrote:You might be correct ...sept/oct it possibly put us top then..just going on memory.
Pretty sure it was 73. Getting kicked down the East Bank kind of stays in the memory!

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by bob-the-scutter » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:15 pm

And then again....I'm thinking your correct as it was at the time I was working in London 72/73 , coming home every other weekend. I missed the train home to Burnley owing to being the front runner of a marathon featuring me and about 40 Wednesday fans. Had to thumb it home!
Didn't realise I could run so fast. :shock:
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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by Siddo » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:16 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:And then again....I'm thinking your correct as it was at the time I was working in London 72/73 , coming home every other weekend. I missed the train home to Burnley owing to being the front runner of a marathon featuring me and about 40 Wednesday fans. Had to thumb it home!
Didn't realise I could run so fast. :shock:
I remember our train passing you as you were stood at a station our train didn't stop at. Was it Hopper who found an axe at a farm and ran down the hill waving it over his head!

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by Cajun » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:17 pm

Goody1975 wrote:11-15,000!!!

You mean according to this complete nugget. "Biggest crowd at Turf Moor for fifty years"

https://ewoodpark.jimdo.com/blackburn-h ... th-elders/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

His best one is the fact that it was Blackburn & Celtic fans who caused all the carnage in the Anglo Scottish Cup game.

I've had a skim through that site in the past - hilarious, he is delusional.
From my immediate memory Boxing Day 77 we lost 3-2 after being 3-0 down? Attendance was 26,000-ish I think, with Rovers having the usual away chunk of the by-then-fenced Longside, and a group at the top of the Beehole/Longside division with a guy in a blue and white quartered sweater at the front of them and there was a lot of activity there. Boxing Day 78 we won 2-1 after being 2-0 up at HT with a slightly smaller 23k-ish crowd . Seem to remember Uwe smacking in the second with a half volley?
Seems a lifetime ago - I guess it is :roll:
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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:27 pm

I definitely remember the home game we lost 3-2 after being 3-0 down and there were some Rovers fans who thought standing on the Bee Hole was a good idea when it most definitely wasn't. My feeling is that they were doing pretty well at the time and we weren't and they did bring a lot as a 26,000 crowd suggests, but they must have thought they could do pretty much as they liked and I remember there being several flare ups on the Bee Hole.

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:33 pm

Crowds were:

Blackburn 2 v 2 Burnley (27th Dec) 1976/77 22,189
Burnley 3 v 1 Blackburn (8th Apr) 1976/77 17,372
Burnley 2 v 3 Blackburn (26th Dec) 1977/78 27,427
Blackburn 0 v 1 Burnley (27th Mar) 1977/78 24,379
Burnley 2 v 1 Blackburn (26th Dec) 1978/79 23,133
Blackburn 1 v 2 Burnley (14th Apr) 1978/79 14,761

Also

Burnley 0 v 1 Blackburn (27 Dec) 1982/83 20,439
Blackburn 2 v 1 Burnley (4 Apr) 1982/83 13,434
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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by bob-the-scutter » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:42 pm

Siddo wrote:I remember our train passing you as you were stood at a station our train didn't stop at. Was it Hopper who found an axe at a farm and ran down the hill waving it over his head!
Yes and I remember you all waving and giving me the fingers :evil: I climbed over a 10 foot gate in 2 seconds flat into what turned out to be a brewery.
Those were the days B!
And later that year Wigan Casino opened its doors. :D
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Post by Claretforever » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:05 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I definitely remember the home game we lost 3-2 after being 3-0 down and there were some Rovers fans who thought standing on the Bee Hole was a good idea when it most definitely wasn't. My feeling is that they were doing pretty well at the time and we weren't and they did bring a lot as a 26,000 crowd suggests, but they must have thought they could do pretty much as they liked and I remember there being several flare ups on the Bee Hole.
So as others have remembered then, with just a few pockets of Rovers on the Bee Hole, and not the 5,000 of them in there as they like to tell it.
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Post by Leisure » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:08 pm

And his telling of the 1971 friendly at Ewood is absolutely nothing like the truth! Pure fantasy! UTC

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:01 pm

In the 2-3 defeat in 1977 they missed a penalty just after half -time that would have made it 4-0 to them. The fight back led by Peter Noble just wasn't enough.

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by Jimmymaccer » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:39 pm

1978 I was meant to meet a Blackburn supporting mate after the match.......aged 16 my dad just left me outside the ground, no mobiles in those days. My friend failed to show so with just a few quid in pocket I set off.....

Within a few yards, smacked in the face, scarf nicked......(yeah, I know, thick for wearing it, but I’ve always been proud to wear the colours!)

Near the hospital, chased by an unfriendly few.......

Bus station, a lad was beaten up just for being in the queue for a bus heading to Burnley.........I loitered nearby, but then the same group approached me, and whilst threatening me, one of them behind me set fire to my coat, flames everywhere! Coat discarded my Burnley shirt was revealed but fortunately the bus had pulled in so I made the dash for it, just as plod turned up.........

Despised that lot ever since for some strange reason!

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by ontario claret » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:46 pm

Saw my first game at Turf Moor on a wet Tuesday night v. Newcastle. Announced attendance was somewhere in the 9,000s, as I remember. But it was the last home game before the Blackburn away game on the Easter weekend, and all the Longside wanted to sing about was how they were going to beat Rovers away. Paul Fletcher scored the only goal on a cross from the left side, Peter Noble worked his socks off in the midfield, and Alan Stevenson was his usual steady self in goal. Terry Cochrane had already been transferred, I believe, because I don't remember him. But the 9,000 attendance tells you the financial trouble the club was in. People were demanding top-flight football only, and there was nothing Harry Potts could do about it.

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by ontario claret » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:47 pm

Forgot to mention that it was 1979.

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by Claret1205 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:05 pm

First time I've posted a photo so hope it's OK. This is only photo of Cochrane's goal I could find.
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Post by Claret1205 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:18 pm

There was obviously less concern about players getting tired in 1978 as a day after the Rovers game we played Blackpool at Bloomfield Road and drew 1-1.
In both matches the opposition were reduced to 10 men, Noel Brotherston and Stan McEwan being the players sent off. I think McEwan may have had a trial at Burnley when John Bond was manager.
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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by Goody1975 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:44 pm

Pretty sure that was the same in 1982

Without looking it up i think we played away at Wolves the day after being beaten at home by Blackburn.

The modern managers would have a massive hissy fit about that.

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Post by Rubstuds » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:10 pm

I went to a few of the games in the 70s at ewood. One game we had to remove our footwear and place them in the back garden of some small cottages at the side of the Darwen end. I even had my aluminium comb confiscated. I cant recall which year it was though. Spent all the match in stocking feet.

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Post by Aclaret » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:26 pm

Rubstuds wrote:I went to a few of the games in the 70s at ewood. One game we had to remove our footwear and place them in the back garden of some small cottages at the side of the Darwen end. I even had my aluminium comb confiscated. I cant recall which year it was though. Spent all the match in stocking feet.
Remember doing the same down at Oxford Utd. My pair of Docs lined up against the wall as you went through the turnstiles, can't think if I got the same pair back !

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:25 pm

Aclaret wrote:Remember doing the same down at Oxford Utd. My pair of Docs lined up against the wall as you went through the turnstiles, can't think if I got the same pair back !
Cambridge United had a ban on 'industrial' footwear.
Saw a few Clarets sat balanced on the crush barriers to keep their feet off the cold concrete.

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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:26 pm

Claret1205 wrote:First time I've posted a photo so hope it's OK. This is only photo of Cochrane's goal I could find.
Cochrane v Blackburn Away.jpg
That's exactly as I remember it!

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Post by Claretforever » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:44 pm

That Cochrane goal.

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Post by Claret1205 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:52 pm

Here's a couple of other photos from end of 1977/78 season.

2-1 home win over then league leaders Tottenham. Not sure what Tottenham were doing in Division Two?
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Fans on pitch after final home game v Luton.
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Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:19 pm

I actually don't THINK that was Tottenham's only foray into the second division around that time. Rather like Chelsea back then, they were very much also rans among the big boys, who got fairly large crowds based on past glories, but were generally a soft touch, especially on the road. They flirted with relegation on and off and at least once it bit them in the botty and they went down. I remember that game where Noble scored the winner and if I'm right Spurs actually took the lead before we scored 2.

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Post by Aclaret » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:44 pm

Went down to Spurs 1977 for a Div 2 game, think we lost 3-0. No segregation back then from what I remember, 2 of us stood on the Shelf ( their end).
Must have been other clarets down there but at the time, we thought we were the only ones !

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Post by cold claret » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:33 pm

[quote="Longside4evr"]I know shaun Bradbury from years back he is struggling now with illness
We went on a 21st do for Gaz Bradley's birthday to Blackburn nowt to do with football
Hired a double decker bus with some right nutters
The first pub we went in was the pub around the corner from the Adelphi under Morrisons cant remember its name but it had loads of partions with bullseye glass in and before half of us got served.
Stools a chairs were getting thrown through them smash the pub to peices
It was quick mount back on the bus i thought that be that
It went on to Whalley and it proper kick off out side every one of the four pubs
Poilice arrived in force and was chucking anyone in the back of the vans others were trying to pull them back out it was mad as
When it calmed down and most were back on the bus their was a police escourt back to Burnley
With 17 police vehicles with blue lights going
This just put more excitement on it as nearly every window on the upper deck got kick out
As the bus pull up outside the Thomson center i so the police running over to stop us getting off as they wanted to nick everyone on the bus
I just pushed through the door with all my might and legged it onto the bus station grab hold of a bird in bus que and told her to say we where a couple
Anyway everyone on that bus got took to the station and charged with causing criminal damage and affray
It made the papers and the driver had to say he'd and his bus had been hijack and forced into it mad mad night that

You forgot the Thunder Flashes in Whalley…. :roll: Rip Gaz Bradley a top lad
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Post by cold claret » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:46 pm

Longside4evr wrote:Who said they ran away not one topic, most probably had a go and joined in the fun after all that's what most went for back then and you knew the the potential scene
You had to be on your toes that's for sure people just dont sky write that they may of Murdered a few.
I was on the 10 to 10 train from Burnley in 82/83 when the roof went missing, causing the game to be stopped asbestos cladding being pelted across the pitch Casper having to plead with the fans as they climbed into the rafters ripping the roof off riot police rampaging into the Darwin end on horses trying to restore order
That's after 350 fans braking off the train at Accy causing mayhem for hours walking all the way to Ewood
Yes the 80s originals
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Post by tim_noone » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:54 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:Pretty sure it was 73. Getting kicked down the East Bank kind of stays in the memory!
Sept .72.....wife three months pregnant.kinda stayed in mine.mm.....phils got left behind.
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Re: Blackburn v Burnley 1978 fighting on the fair ground fighting on the streets

Post by Bop » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:29 pm

cold claret wrote:
2 or 3 of us lived locally, & got the bus back to local spots from Whalley. I remember it as Fulham at home, drinking by the Turf then setting offf, par-boiled. Bus was full but we managed to fit loads more on at Accy. Blackburn was a non -event but the frustrations were taken out in Whalley later. Watching lads being rescued/pulled out of police vans and cars was entertaining, and the local bobbies trying to deal with the situation. A couple of good local army boys were there but I couldn’t ever blame them for the Thunderflashes in The De Lacy & Dog. Silly stuff looking back, but different times. RIP Gaz.

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