This is not a Brexit post.....

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:24 pm

Hands up those of us fed up with bloody "Brexit threads"

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:26 pm

Me*

*Fed up with the ones in which I have to keep telling people that the total ******** they are spouting is total ********.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:38 pm

I'm not fed up with them. I think it's hilarious to watch the Brexiteers perform mental gymnastics to continue to support a course of action that all their arguments in support of have been debunked.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:57 pm

Can anyone translate that last post please ?

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:57 pm

It is a Brexit thread

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:58 pm

Been wondering for a while whether it’s time to stop pretending this is a football messageboard. It’s dominated by about half a dozen posters who seem to spend their lives on here. I wouldn’t be surprised if it transpired several of them are using numerous usernames.

Maybe a name change would help to manage the expectations of anyone thinking there’s much in the way of football discussion on here.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:59 pm

agreenwood wrote:Been wondering for a while whether it’s time to stop pretending this is a football messageboard.

Maybe a name change would help to manage the expectations of anyone thinking there’s much in the way of football discussion on here.

It's not a football message board. It's a Burnley Fan's message board.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:00 pm

agreenwood wrote:Been wondering for a while whether it’s time to stop pretending this is a football messageboard.

Maybe a name change would help to manage the expectations of anyone thinking there’s much in the way of football discussion on here.

Receiving more and more complaints about the number of such threads - certainly looking at the potential for changing the board to prevent it.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:02 pm

Cool, whatever.

Before Brexit, people used to be bright enough not to click on posts they didn't want to read.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:04 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Cool, whatever.

Before Brexit, people used to be bright enough not to click on posts they didn't want to read.

I don’t. Not much else to click on, so most visits are fleeting.

Sproggy · Post by **Sproggy** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:08 pm

The problem is that what should be perfectly reasonable (football and non-football) threads are being hijacked by people spouting the same Brexit views ad-nauseam, with an inability not to be seen to have the last word. It's tiresome.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:08 pm

...this is just a tribute

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:11 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Cool, whatever.

Before Brexit, people used to be bright enough not to click on posts they didn't want to read.

But people can't help bringing brexit into threads they aren't about, it is time the politics threads were banned.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:12 pm

Not enough tenacious D links on here!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:13 pm

Fine

I don't give a **** either way to be honest.

I only come on here to argue with the terminally mis-informed on Brexit and the EDL backers.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:16 pm

agreenwood wrote:I don’t. Not much else to click on, so most visits are fleeting.

Well this has increased the number of Brexit threads on the first page by 50% up to a massive three!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:21 pm

If you want to talk about football then talk about football. No one is stopping you.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:21 pm

Did i do it right?

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:50 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Me*

*Fed up with the ones in which I have to keep telling people that the total ******** they are spouting is total ********.

You don’t have to though Lancaster, if you are fed up of it just don’t do it. You won’t make any difference even if you convince a few people on here that you’re right and they’re wrong. I really don’t understand why you keep banging on!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:57 pm

because it is of interest to me PYCB.

I quite get that it isn't for everyone though!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:58 pm

martin_p wrote:Well this has increased the number of Brexit threads on the first page by 50% up to a massive three!

Uh-oh. The Brexit threads are literally taking over. We need to ban Brexit threads from coming here and taking bandwidth from good, hard-working football threads.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:58 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:It's not a football message board. It's a Burnley Fan's message board.

I agree but certain posters never get involved in Football related messages do they

just using it to promote their own agenda's

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:15 pm

I think that the fact we are now discussing it means it has become a problem. The fact is enough people are sick of it that it has become a major discussion in itself. That surely means it is time that we look at how things are done. I am a political person and I do not think politics should be banned on here, far from it, but a seperate section would be a good way forward until people learn that they don't need to start a new thread every time someone in the public eye makes a statement about the same subject. It seems to me that the reason people continually start new Brexit threads is because they feel that those who shout the loudest get the most heard, i.e. they don't want their precious gem of a 'fact' or new piece of 'breaking news' to go unnoticed among all the other posts.
For those who think it's simple to just not click on such threads I would say it is also really simple to, if you really must start yet another, to put Brexit at the front of the heading instead of trying to fool people into reading your view.

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:35 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Receiving more and more complaints about the number of such threads - certainly looking at the potential for changing the board to prevent it.

Logged in to like this.

Board is swamped with this **** and i'm personally sick of it.

Yes, i can choose to click on a thread or not, instead i choose not to visit the site half as much.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:45 pm

Goody1975 wrote:Logged in to like this.

Board is swamped with this **** and i'm personally sick of it.

Yes, i can choose to click on a thread or not, instead i choose not to visit the site half as much.

Do you think that people are just going to start talking about what you want to talk about if we're not allowed to talk about politics?

There isn't going to be more football threads if there are less politics threads. One doesn't replace the other.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:47 pm

houseboy wrote:I think that the fact we are now discussing it means it has become a problem. The fact is enough people are sick of it that it has become a major discussion in itself. That surely means it is time that we look at how things are done. I am a political person and I do not think politics should be banned on here, far from it, but a seperate section would be a good way forward until people learn that they don't need to start a new thread every time someone in the public eye makes a statement about the same subject. It seems to me that the reason people continually start new Brexit threads is because they feel that those who shout the loudest get the most heard, i.e. they don't want their precious gem of a 'fact' or new piece of 'breaking news' to go unnoticed among all the other posts.
For those who think it's simple to just not click on such threads I would say it is also really simple to, if you really must start yet another, to put Brexit at the front of the heading instead of trying to fool people into reading your view.

Agree with some of your points hb,for example i have no problem with the Labour MP'S leaving their party thread as this is a major news story,that isn't just brexit related,and crucially the title was perfectly clear,i do have an issue with misleading thread titles whatever the subject matter,i don't post as often as i once did on any brexit related threads as they usually disintegrate into a primary school he said she said spat,normally involving the same posters spouting the same claptrap,if people could debate in a dignified manner fine,but this seems sadly lacking nowadays.

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:54 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Do you think that people are just going to start talking about what you want to talk about if we're not allowed to talk about politics?

There isn't going to be more football threads if there are less politics threads. One doesn't replace the other.

Nobody is stopping you and others talking about anything at the moment.

The thread/poll is whether or not people want such discussions banned, on a separate area, or to continue as they are. Seems quite simple to me.

I've voted for a non football discussion area, which i believe is my choice and nobody else's.

Is that okay with you?

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:00 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Me*

*Fed up with the ones in which I have to keep telling people that the total ******** they are spouting is total ********.

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:10 pm

burnleymik wrote:
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Shut up and come play Rocket League

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:11 pm

Goody1975 wrote:You obviously do, because if enough people vote the same way political discussions will be moved to another area which seems to bother you. If it doesn't bother you then why did you engage in a discussion on the matter with me in the first place?

Because i was replying to your argument, not your vote.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:41 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Uh-oh. The Brexit threads are literally taking over. We need to ban Brexit threads from coming here and taking bandwidth from good, hard-working football threads.

I'm more concerned with the unelected rulers that are controlling us.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:45 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm not fed up with them. I think it's hilarious to watch the Brexiteers perform mental gymnastics to continue to support a course of action that all their arguments in support of have been debunked.

Parklife

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:48 pm

tiger76 wrote:Agree with some of your points hb,for example i have no problem with the Labour MP'S leaving their party thread as this is a major news story,that isn't just brexit related,and crucially the title was perfectly clear,i do have an issue with misleading thread titles whatever the subject matter,i don't post as often as i once did on any brexit related threads as they usually disintegrate into a primary school he said she said spat,normally involving the same posters spouting the same claptrap,if people could debate in a dignified manner fine,but this seems sadly lacking nowadays.

Absolutely. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that with Brexit everything has now been said and both sides (in the real world and on here) are just clutching at every proverbial straw but I genuinely believe that no-one is now going to change their mind, if indeed anyone has to a great degree. It reminds me of the trenches in the first war with no-one gaining any ground, just rolling around in the mud. I genuinely cannot think of any political situation in my life that has both ground to a halt but has so many people arguing over it at the same time. The real irony is that rather than dealing with facts (because as it hasn't actually happened yet there are hardly any to be had) all we are getting is arguments (from both sides) about who has been lied to the most.
The fact is we have no real idea what will happen as and when we leave and if we wound up not leaving we will never know. For every so-called expert who brokers doom there is another who says all will be well (or even better). Never has there been such a devide on a (as yet) non-violent issue, at least not as far as I am aware (and I've been around a while).

ten bellies · Post by **ten bellies** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:05 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm not fed up with them. I think it's hilarious to watch the Brexiteers perform mental gymnastics to continue to support a course of action that all their arguments in support of have been debunked.

Debunked? A very sheeple way of looking at it.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:14 pm

Could be a tough one for the mods trying to remove the odd escapee 'political' bits from the football stuff.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:20 pm

This is true.

Imagine just getting our European scouting network up and running and then finding out that we can't sign any of them because of something we can't talk about.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:31 am

ten bellies wrote:Debunked? A very sheeple way of looking at it.

Go on then, what significant reason for leaving the EU hasn't been debunked?

Bullabill · Post by **Bullabill** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:18 am

Imploding Turtle .........

"It's not a football message board. It's a Burnley Fan's message board."

And which Burnley fan is that? Surely you don't mean CT?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:23 am

Bullabill wrote:Imploding Turtle .........

"It's not a football message board. It's a Burnley Fan's message board."

And which Burnley fan is that? Surely you don't mean CT?

Apostrophes are the devil's punctuation.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:27 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Go on then, what significant reason for leaving the EU hasn't been debunked?

That 52% voted for it you know this democracy thing.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:26 am

Jakubclaret wrote:That 52% voted for it you know this democracy thing.

That's not an argument that was used to convince people to vote to leave the EU. And you know that.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:11 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:That's not an argument that was used to convince people to vote to leave the EU. And you know that.

Ultimately thats the reason we are leaving, you are delusional thinking any different.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:14 am

I initially replied to your most recent vomiting, but I deleted my post because i think calling you an "absolute genius" might get me banned for abuse to smart people.

ten bellies · Post by **ten bellies** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:36 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Go on then, what significant reason for leaving the EU hasn't been debunked?

Not to be ruled by an unelected distant monolith. To take back control of immigration. Those reasons haven't been debunked. The scumbags of Westminster in collusion with those similar scumbags of the EU, are determined to undermine the unexpected referendum result.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:52 pm

ten bellies wrote:Not to be ruled by an unelected distant monolith. To take back control of immigration. Those reasons haven't been debunked. The scumbags of Westminster in collusion with those similar scumbags of the EU, are determined to undermine the unexpected referendum result.

OK. Well they are elected. So that's pretty easy to debunk.

We always had control of immigration, we just chose not to exercise it because it would have been bad for the economy. So that's debunked.

Anything else?

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:32 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:OK. Well they are elected. So that's pretty easy to debunk.

We always had control of immigration, we just chose not to exercise it because it would have been bad for the economy. So that's debunked.

Anything else?

Well that turned out to be a brilliant idea, debunked maximoso.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:38 pm

Edit

- no point, if you are going to ignore stuff like that, then you are not interested in evidence full stop.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:39 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Edit

- no point, if you are going to ignore stuff like that, then you are not interested in evidence full stop.

Everybody seems to be talking about evidence & I've yet to see any & my eyes are wide open, the evidence will & can only emerge after a democratic decision has been enacted, right now at this moment in time we've got everything but evidence or fact, how on earth some people can determine & accurately ascertain the future when something hasn't happened is completely beyond me. When I'm next in the newsagents picking my lottery numbers it's absolutely imperative i consult with some members of this forum beforehand.

ten bellies · Post by **ten bellies** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:17 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:OK. Well they are elected. So that's pretty easy to debunk.

We always had control of immigration, we just chose not to exercise it because it would have been bad for the economy. So that's debunked.

Anything else?

You miss the point pal, but then your type usually do. My own silly fault for replying to a plank like you.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:09 pm

ten bellies wrote:You miss the point pal, but then your type usually do. My own silly fault for replying to a plank like you.

Well, no. You said a couple fo things which aren't true, and i provided you with evidence that they aren't true.

But what is the point that feel I've missed?