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Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:18 pm
by TVC15
Oh and btw I think based on this thread there are 2 of you who think they were at their best in their teens.

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:20 pm
by Rileybobs
DustyBawls wrote:Watch football and he was at his peak from 16-19.

Stats in this case, don't tell you the full story.
I watch plenty of football and I recall Rooney having the best form of his career in his mid twenties. So I checked on his career statistics and they reinforce my memory and prove that I’m correct.

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:13 pm
by SGr
McNeil does what he does well without having a lot of pace. It’s less of a requirement at international level but to be called up properly he’s got to do it for someone better than us realistically to even be in with a shout. Left wing one of England’s most fruitful positions, got Sterling, Rashford and Sancho at least who can play there.

For me, if he’s going to do it at a European (which will presumably will not be with us if so), McNeil will benefit from moving more centrally or to the right instead of being an out and out left winger. We shall see.

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:22 pm
by DustyBawls
SGr wrote:McNeil does what he does well without having a lot of pace. It’s less of a requirement at international level but to be called up properly he’s got to do it for someone better than us realistically to even be in with a shout. Left wing one of England’s most fruitful positions, got Sterling, Rashford and Sancho at least who can play there.

For me, if he’s going to do it at a European (which will presumably will not be with us if so), McNeil will benefit from moving more centrally or to the right instead of being an out and out left winger. We shall see.
The right? I'd say that's the one position he should never play. I do think he could do a job upfront, but at the moment he needs to be exactly where he is. He's not a central midfielder either.

Why move somebody who is playing so well?

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:40 pm
by SGr
DustyBawls wrote:The right? I'd say that's the one position he should never play. I do think he could do a job upfront, but at the moment he needs to be exactly where he is. He's not a central midfielder either.

Why move somebody who is playing so well?
Has featured there for the youth team before. And no I agree he’s not a central midfielder, I meant behind the striker similar to how Alli features for Spurs.

And I’m also not saying we’re going to move him. I’m saying I believe it would benefit him personally if he were to take the step up to say a top 6 club.

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:51 pm
by ClaretAL
There was once an online AGM streamed and we were allowed to post Q&A and i asked what do you think the chances of Ings and Tripps being called up for england as they were playing out of their skin at the time. Then answer i got from Dyche was lets slow down a bit and not get out of control, they ae no where near that level as yet, 3 months later they are both in the squad. At the time i thought Dyche had a point, but you just never know, and we have been crying out for left winger for a hell of a long time.

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:28 am
by Siddo
Can't believe no-one has twigged that dusty and colonel are one and the same.
He sounds like a 12 year old imploding turtle, who needs congratulating on hitting 16.

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:36 am
by DustyBawls
Siddo wrote:Can't believe no-one has twigged that dusty and colonel are one and the same.
He sounds like a 12 year old imploding turtle, who needs congratulating on hitting 16.
We actually look the same as well. I think. :D

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:10 am
by Bfcboyo
DustyBawls wrote:A superb example of somebody twisting what somebody put to suit their own agenda. I know how ImplodingTurtle feels.

You are suggesting, I've said ALL players peak at 18. You know I never said that. I said Rooney and Owen both peaked in their teens. BECAUSE THEY DID.
Are you suggesting you felt him ?

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:01 am
by Tribesmen
Any chance that he has any Irish grandparents ?????

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:42 am
by SalisburyClaret
If he played for United or Chelsea then he’d be an England contender and would be worth £80m

Let’s just keep him to ourselves for a while

Re: McNeil - Future England Player?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:45 am
by northernpowerhouse
DustyBawls wrote:Watch football and he was at his peak from 16-19.
So you think he was at his peak when his goal record was 34 in 120 (about 1 in 4)?

Being at your peak isn't the same as being at your fastest. It doesn't mean scoring a few goals against Switzerland and Croatia. Rooney was clearly at his peak when he was scoring 30+ goals a season, winning leagues and Champions Leagues, scoring in Champions League finals etc. Ask Alex Ferguson when he was at his peak, he'll put you straight.