F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

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F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Pstotto » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:23 pm

I think there are 58 possible combinations home and away. Not sure the betting odds, Ill guess:

Wolves v. Millwall
Watford v. Crystal Palace
Brighton v. Man U.
Man City v. Swansea

Let's see if you can do better.

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by box_of_frogs » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:24 pm

I predict we won’t reach the quarters for a long time.

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:25 pm

Man city v milwall

Nailed on. Put your house on it

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by dpinsussex » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:26 pm

City v united

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Aclaret » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:27 pm

Millwall v Utd could be ......

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:27 pm

BHA v CP
Millwall v Watford
Wolves v Swansea
MU v MC
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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:29 pm

Man U v Milwall
Swansea v Wolves
Crystal Palace v Brighton
Man City v Watford

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Pstotto » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:31 pm

It's always going to be Palace/Brighton. I put that myself first but then I changed my mind. So I thought Brighton v. United as a repeat of the PL tie.

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:40 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Man U v Milwall
Swansea v Wolves
Crystal Palace v Brighton
Man City v Watford

Pretty happy with that!!

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Pstotto » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:41 pm

Not bad! Swap Man U for Millwall and the home/away City/Swansea and err... I lost my bet! :D

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Spijed » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:48 pm

Brighton could get to the end up in the bottom three with having a few games to catch up.

Pressure if they want to stay up!

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:52 pm

Quite an interesting draw. Apart from Man City the other 3 games should be fairly well matched. Millwall will fancy their chances of turning Brighton over at the Den.

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by LeadBelly » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:55 pm

A lot more possibilities than 58 Psotto. I make it 105 combinations, 1680 permutations (where home or away counts).
In any case, Wolves v Man U is the game out of the 4 that Id like to see.

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Goobs » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:17 pm

Reckon Wolves will turn United over at home leaving the way for City to become the first team ever to buy the domestic treble.

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by tim_noone » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:24 pm

Pstotto wrote:I think there are 58 possible combinations home and away. Not sure the betting odds, Ill guess:

Wolves v. Millwall
Watford v. Crystal Palace
Brighton v. Man U.
Man City v. Swansea

Let's see if you can do better.
Swansea v man city errrm wolves v man utd.....let me see.?brighton v milwall and Watford away to palace... That's my gut...

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by DustyBawls » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:26 pm

Pstotto wrote:I think there are 58 possible combinations home and away. Not sure the betting odds, Ill guess:

Wolves v. Millwall
Watford v. Crystal Palace
Brighton v. Man U.
Man City v. Swansea

Let's see if you can do better.

Wolves win
Watford - Palace draw, taken into extra time.
Brighton take Man U into extra time... and win
Man City win

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by timshorts » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:49 pm

I make it 9x5x3 different pairings, but if it is home or away then 10!/4!
I'd like
city v united
Brighton v palace
Swansea v millwall
wolves v Watford
and then 4x home wins.

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:06 pm

timshorts wrote:I make it 9x5x3 different pairings, but if it is home or away then 10!/4!
I'd like
city v united
Brighton v palace
Swansea v millwall
wolves v Watford
and then 4x home wins.
Did you miss the bit where they did the draw?

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by timshorts » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:18 pm

Wasn't really interested. I also for some reason started with 10 sides, so the maths should be 7x5x3 and 8!/4!
what was the draw then?

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Pstotto » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:26 pm

Start off with Wolves:

Wolves can play seven different teams either home or away =14 matches. Then they are off the list.
Man U can play six different teams (minus the Wolves fixture( home or away =12 matches. Then they are off the list etc. etc.
Brighton can play five different =10 matches.
Millwall can play four different =8 matches.
Watford can play three different =6 matches.
C.Palace can play two different =4 matches.
That leaves Man City and Swansea to play the remaining =2 matches.

14+12+10+8+6+4+2=56! I was two out in a casual guess. 9x5x3 is????? 9x5=45. 45 x3=135. 9x(3x5)=141. How does that relate to 56??????? ;-)

If there are 56 matches, what are the odds on getting the correct four ties?

... Meanwhile Tim Noone cheated!!!!!!!

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by timshorts » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:49 am

It's 7x 5 x 3. so 105.

The first bit is right. Wolves can play 7 different teams.
But you are looking for combinations, so for every one of those 7 draws there are 6 sides left. If you then repeat what you did for wolves, picking a random side, which you can't name because it might be the side that wolves played, this side X has 5 possible opponents left. Then side Y has 3 opponents to pick from. There is a fourth part of the equation, but I ignored that as the last two sides would have to play each other so it wouldn't impact. Technically the equation is 7x 5x 3x 1.
the main difference, though, is that you are adding your numbers rather than multiplying them.

In a league format, the formula to use is n(n-1) for home and away or n(n-1)/2 if home/away doesn't matter.

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Re: F.A. Cup Q.Final predictions

Post by Pstotto » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:55 am

Hmm... There are 56 combinations of INDIVIDUAL fixtures. I can work that out. I've forgotten to add what COMBINATIONS of GROUPS OF FOUR there can be.

I still don't get your logic, though, so I'm not entirely convinced.

My maths is a bit skewed on the other bit as well. 10 x 15 =150. 9 x 15 = 135. It was a late night post. I hope that's the excuse anyway, or I've lost some brain cells.

... Mind you, this is a breakfast post.

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