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Re: Bolton

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:25 pm

No , thats true Tony

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Re: Bolton

Post by dpinsussex » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:26 pm

Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.

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Re: Bolton

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:30 pm

Think the FL will delay their decision until Wednesday when the players are due July pay.
Wycombe Wanderers on Twitter this morning started selling tickets on their web site to Bolton Fans but after the FL statement they stopped selling tickets.

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Re: Bolton

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:46 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:Think the FL will delay their decision until Wednesday when the players are due July pay.
Wycombe Wanderers on Twitter this morning started selling tickets on their web site to Bolton Fans but after the FL statement they stopped selling tickets.
The league will make themselves look even more foolish if they delay again

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Re: Bolton

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:14 pm

Agree entirely.
Just what I am reading on Twitter as it appears the last thing the League want is for Bolton to be liquidated.
FV appear to be the only consortium that have an interest now as other interested parties appear to have left the scene.

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Re: Bolton

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:16 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Apparently a PL 'solidarity' payment is due to them on 1st August which will give them another few days breathing space

and why should they get if they have not met the funding requirements of the league

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Re: Bolton

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:22 pm

unfortunately football needs a famous old club to go bust, wish it was Leeds though
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Re: Bolton

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:37 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:unfortunately football needs a famous old club to go bust, wish it was Leeds though
Leeds are infamous.

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Re: Bolton

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:41 pm

So it could be about 10 years and 20 minutes before we are extinct

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Re: Bolton

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:42 pm

FCBurnley wrote:So it could be about 10 years and 20 minutes before we are extinct
Seems that way

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Re: Bolton

Post by dpinsussex » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:44 pm

16 minutes and counting....

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Re: Bolton

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:46 pm

Still not convinced that they will be allowed to fold.

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Re: Bolton

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:48 pm

They played Real Madrid you know !!!

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Re: Bolton

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:49 pm

while you are waiting this is an entertaining thread - EFL should know better - describe you club in emoji's

https://twitter.com/EFL/status/1151417747630411776" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Bolton

Post by thelaughingclaret » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:10 pm

Bolton won’t ever be liquidated, they will get the same preferential treatment Portsmouth did. Bury are the ones in danger and if the league want to make and example of anyone they’ll do it to bury as it’s the easier option.

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Re: Bolton

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:12 pm

thelaughingclaret wrote:Bolton won’t ever be liquidated, they will get the same preferential treatment Portsmouth did. Bury are the ones in danger and if the league want to make and example of anyone they’ll do it to bury as it’s the easier option.
It's not the league who can liquidate them - they can throw them out though

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Re: Bolton

Post by BFCmaj » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:20 pm

NottsClaret wrote:If it were the old Bolton Wanderers playing at Burnden Park in Bolton who my Grandad supported, I'd be hopeful they sort it out.

But this club from a Horwich retail park I couldn't care less about, whether they struggle on or die this week.
Absolutely the same position as me.

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Re: Bolton

Post by Falcon » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:23 pm

Are they dead yet?

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Re: Bolton

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:26 pm

Players now are refusing to train re staged payments.

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Re: Bolton

Post by Bfc » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:36 pm

FCBurnley, so did Nelson FC in 1923 and they won. I tried to buy the programme for the game off someone I worked with, but he wouldn't consider it.

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Re: Bolton

Post by dpinsussex » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:54 pm

Silence is deafening.

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Re: Bolton

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:15 pm

Bfc wrote:FCBurnley, so did Nelson FC in 1923 and they won. I tried to buy the programme for the game off someone I worked with, but he wouldn't consider it.
Yes. A famous game was that one Seriously rare prog and difficult to value but I would say 4 figures minimum. You probably offered him a tenner haha. Only kidding. Had to sell all mine when i emigrated but still have a passion for collecting.

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Re: Bolton

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:17 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Silence is deafening.
Not on radio MCR - sounding like a wake https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live: ... manchester" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Bolton

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:24 pm

Marc Iles has just tweeted: "Contracted players offered 100 per cent of money by FV on day one, but looks like staggered offer made to ex-players/non-contracted players the big issue."

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Re: Bolton

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:33 pm

Thought they had up to 5 pm haha or is that Florida time !!!

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Re: Bolton

Post by Goalposts » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:51 pm

it will be fudged..timeline will be extended

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Re: Bolton

Post by Asbury Park » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:10 pm

Still nothing. Not sure if that's good or bad news where Bolton fans are concerned.

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Re: Bolton

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:13 pm

If the games are suspended today, maybe Wycombe could play MK Dons, then their fans would get a game.

Probably too late for that now.

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Re: Bolton

Post by aggi » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:18 pm

ClaretTony wrote:There is a requirement that all football debts, and that includes wages, be paid 100%.
If they are liquidated there may not be the assets to do that though. Different from administration and a new owner coming in.

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Re: Bolton

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:18 pm

Nixon with latest on Talk Sport now

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Re: Bolton

Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:19 pm

Discussion of the situation on Talk Sports' Monday night football discussion programme with Ian Holloway and Simon Jordan (who despite , obviously, being a bit of a c**k, is actually pretty listenable). Nixon joining in shortly too. I must say I can't help but smirk a bit at the Bolton situation.

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Re: Bolton

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:19 pm

aggi wrote:If they are liquidated there may not be the assets to do that though. Different from administration and a new owner coming in.
The land their stadium and training ground are on will be worth some cash.

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Re: Bolton

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:22 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:The land their stadium and training ground are on will be worth some cash.
thought all that was used as collaterall on secured loans - not really the clubs assets unless the loans are paid

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Re: Bolton

Post by aggi » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:25 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:The land their stadium and training ground are on will be worth some cash.
I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't fixed charges on those (ChesterPerry or Royboy will probably know).

Also, I'm not sure if football creditors are still preferential creditors if the club is being wound up. I think it may just be if you want to continue as a club

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Re: Bolton

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:27 pm

It's time this farce was sorted out once and for all,now it's affecting other league members,and inconveniencing both their players and staff,what on earth happens at the next deadline if there's no more progress. :?

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Re: Bolton

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:28 pm

tiger76 wrote:It's time this farce was sorted out once and for all,now it's affecting other league members,and inconveniencing both their players and staff,what on earth happens at the next deadline if there's no more progress. :?
Someone will just bottle it and extend the deadline again, that's the usual trick :roll:

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Re: Bolton

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:31 pm

Bye
Wanderers
Futures
Closed.

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Re: Bolton

Post by Asbury Park » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:37 pm

Ian Holloway whinging about a 10 year old Scott Sinclair on Talksport. Not entirely sure what that has got to do with Bolton's current situation.

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Re: Bolton

Post by duncandisorderly » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:40 pm

Not to be giving anyone any mad ideas or anything, but do season ticket terms and conditions refer to number of games played or simply 'every' or 'all' league home game(s).
e.g if, say, Accy, stipulate that a season ticket guarantees them 23 home games a season, but Bolton or Bury are nuked before the season starts then the value of the season ticket has diminished. Could that leave one or two clubs open to being sued by their own fans?

It's tacky and distasteful, but there's loads of folk who'd think nothing of trying it on.

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Re: Bolton

Post by duncandisorderly » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:44 pm

Chester Perry wrote:while you are waiting this is an entertaining thread - EFL should know better - describe you club in emoji's

https://twitter.com/EFL/status/1151417747630411776" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't know much about twitter, so what do you have to do to get a tweet removed from someone's thread?
There's a fair few deleted, but the one that says 'EFL are a set of *****' is still there, as is the one that says '**** THE EFL'.
So what have the others said, or might it just be spam?

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Re: Bolton

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:02 pm

Over 3 years ago. If you don't want to watch the whole 2 m 54 secs of it, just watch from 2 m 22 secs. :)


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Re: Bolton

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:47 pm

Latest update from Marc Iles


I understand the FV consortium has agreed to loan money from the PFA to settle with all football creditors.
I think this will roll into tomorrow, assuming EFL give blessing.

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Re: Bolton

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:31 pm

A real farce.
FV consortium having to get a staged repayment loan to enable them to buy a Football Club .
They must not have a large slice of funds then.
However FL will bury their heads in the sand and allow this to happen.

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Re: Bolton

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:44 pm

Come on Bolton hang in there

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Re: Bolton

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:45 pm

EFL statement

Further to the EFL’s statement issued earlier on Monday 29 July 2019, the following updates can be provided:
BOLTON WANDERERS

At its meeting today, the EFL Board was appraised of the position in regard to the outstanding information requested in respect of ongoing matters at Bolton Wanderers.

The Board has fully considered the Club’s further submissions and is satisfied that they are sufficient to meet the requirements of the League subject to the completion of formal documentation.

As a result the EFL Board has opted not to suspend their opening day fixture with Wycombe Wanderers and it will remain as originally scheduled on Saturday 3 August 2019 at 3pm.

BURY

Following continued and comprehensive discussions with the ownership at Bury and other interested parties throughout Monday, the EFL Board is not satisfied it has received the necessary evidence in regard to the outstanding information it requires that demonstrates how the Club will be funded moving forwards.

As a result of not meeting Monday’s 5pm deadline, which had been extended on two previous occasions, the EFL Board feels it has been placed in an unenviable position and, regrettably, has opted to take the reluctant decision to suspend Saturday’s opening day fixture with MK Dons under the provision of EFL Regulation 28.2.

In addition, the EFL Board, if not in possession of the necessary evidence by 12pm on Friday 2 August 2019, will make a determination as to whether to suspend Bury’s away fixture at Accrington Stanley on Saturday 10 August 2019.

As has been the case throughout this entire process, the EFL will continue to offer its full assistance to the ownership at Bury, but remains clear that while the League is here to support the Club through some extremely complex and complicated issues, the outstanding matters can only be resolved with the cooperation from the Club itself.

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Re: Bolton

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:47 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Not to be giving anyone any mad ideas or anything, but do season ticket terms and conditions refer to number of games played or simply 'every' or 'all' league home game(s).
e.g if, say, Accy, stipulate that a season ticket guarantees them 23 home games a season, but Bolton or Bury are nuked before the season starts then the value of the season ticket has diminished. Could that leave one or two clubs open to being sued by their own fans?

It's tacky and distasteful, but there's loads of folk who'd think nothing of trying it on.
You pay for season tickets by the season, not by the amount of games. Maybe you could sue Burnley Football Club, as season tickets were better value for money in the Championship as we played more games. Beside it’s beyond other clubs’ control.

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Re: Bolton

Post by 1HappyClaret » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:55 pm

Bolton game ON but Bury OFF. How can a club borrow money before it takes over. Surely can’t end well.

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Re: Bolton

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:56 pm

Now the EFL need to determine how many points Bolton are to lose for missing the game last season - you would really want to know before the seasons starts to measure the task in front
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Re: Bolton

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:59 pm

This looks a farce to me, borrowing money before taking over. I knew the league were inept but this is ridiculous.

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Re: Bolton

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:01 pm

Could we approach the PFA for some cash to help increase our chances of making a much needed signing ?

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