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Re: Bolton

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Re: Bolton

Postby tiger76 » Fri May 03, 2019 10:41 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:Bassini now telling Sky he is in charge of BWFC.


Curious who's putting the money up i wonder,i'd be wary of celebrating if i was a Bolton fan.

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Re: Bolton

Postby claptrappers_union » Fri May 03, 2019 10:59 am

tiger76 wrote:Curious who's putting the money up i wonder,i'd be wary of celebrating if i was a Bolton fan.


No-one is, not through Bassini anyway. I genuinely think the man is mentally ill. He is a fantasist.

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Re: Bolton

Postby ElectroClaret » Fri May 03, 2019 11:23 am

Be handy to hear from Ken Anderson now on these claims from Bassini.

Though we'd probably be none the wiser. :(

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Re: Bolton

Postby Chester Perry » Fri May 03, 2019 11:37 am

Pantomime season has had an extended run

Bassini - I have control
Anderson - Oh no you don't
Bassini - Oh yes I have
Media - Behind you
EFL - Oh no you don't

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... wanderers/
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Re: Bolton

Postby ClaretTony » Fri May 03, 2019 12:45 pm

Bolton’s game against Brentford, which should have been played last Saturday, has now been scrapped with Brentford being awarded a 1-0 win.

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Re: Bolton

Postby Lancasterclaret » Fri May 03, 2019 12:47 pm

Jeez

That does sound like administration is next.

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Re: Bolton

Postby nil_desperandum » Fri May 03, 2019 12:52 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Jeez

That does sound like administration is next.

I've no real axe to grind with Bolton, but to my mind administration is too good an option for them.

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Re: Bolton

Postby bob-the-scutter » Fri May 03, 2019 1:01 pm

About time Bassini gave up and moved on to buy another club. May I nominate Blackburn?
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Re: Bolton

Postby Foulthrow » Fri May 03, 2019 1:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Bolton’s game against Brentford, which should have been played last Saturday, has now been scrapped with Brentford being awarded a 1-0 win.


Who scored?
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Re: Bolton

Postby bob-the-scutter » Fri May 03, 2019 1:31 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Who scored?

Do they get their win bonus?

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Re: Bolton

Postby cbx750 » Fri May 03, 2019 1:33 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Who scored?

I think it was an own goal.

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Re: Bolton

Postby FactualFrank » Fri May 03, 2019 1:35 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Bolton’s game against Brentford, which should have been played last Saturday, has now been scrapped with Brentford being awarded a 1-0 win.


I would have posted the GIF of that girl crying at the Turf, if I could find it.

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Re: Bolton

Postby Goobs » Fri May 03, 2019 1:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I would have posted the GIF of that girl crying at the Turf, if I could find it.

Wasn't that Preston?

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Re: Bolton

Postby FactualFrank » Fri May 03, 2019 1:44 pm

Goobs wrote:Wasn't that Preston?


Good point! :D

It's hard to keep up with all the Lancashire clubs below us.
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Re: Bolton

Postby dougcollins » Fri May 03, 2019 1:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Bolton’s game against Brentford, which should have been played last Saturday, has now been scrapped with Brentford being awarded a 1-0 win.


I'm sure it always used to be a 3-0 win in such instances, can someone clarify that?

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Re: Bolton

Postby Goobs » Fri May 03, 2019 1:48 pm

dougcollins wrote:I'm sure it always used to be a 3-0 win in such instances, can someone clarify that?

I believe so, yes, but then the EFL just seem to make things up as they go along. Complete joke organisation nowadays.

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Re: Bolton

Postby dougcollins » Fri May 03, 2019 1:53 pm

I don't recall any announcement saying as much, but I suppose it hasn't happened too much recently.

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Re: Bolton

Postby martin_p » Fri May 03, 2019 1:58 pm

According to Sky it’s the club’s own Safety Advisory Grouo that has called the match off as they couldn’t guarantee the personnel required in the stadium to keep it safe (I assume they mean stewards). Guess whoever does the stewarding at Bolton wouldn’t be that confident in getting paid for it so has decided not to bother.

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Re: Bolton

Postby claretblue » Fri May 03, 2019 2:18 pm

Goobs wrote:Wasn't that Preston?


yeh...we'd just gone 4 - 3 up (having been 1 - 3 down) to 10 man Preston

- Big Chris hat-trick! ;)

their player was sent off (2nd yellow) for time wasting on a throw-in! :D
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Re: Bolton

Postby LeadBelly » Fri May 03, 2019 2:20 pm

Who scored?


Can't resist....... Harry Kane.
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Re: Bolton

Postby Vegas Claret » Fri May 03, 2019 2:34 pm

they should just give up and merge with Wigan

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Re: Bolton

Postby Paul Waine » Fri May 03, 2019 2:40 pm

cbx750 wrote:I think it was an own goal.


Sounds about right, all the Bolton team were strikers for this fixture. ;)

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Re: Bolton

Postby ClaretTony » Fri May 03, 2019 3:04 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Who scored?


Ken Anderson own goal I think
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Re: Bolton

Postby mkmel » Fri May 03, 2019 3:14 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:About time Bassini gave up and moved on to buy another club. May I nominate Blackburn?


Or Leeds
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Re: Bolton

Postby bob-the-scutter » Fri May 03, 2019 4:06 pm

mkmel wrote:Or Leeds

Good shout. They haven't had a new owner for months.

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Re: Bolton

Postby mikeS » Fri May 03, 2019 6:51 pm

For not fulfilling their fixtures they should be kicked out of the football league. Put them in the Vanarama Combination or whatever it is.

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Re: Bolton

Postby MrTopTier » Fri May 03, 2019 6:55 pm

they should just give up and merge with Wigan


Should merge with Blackburn and be renamed Wanky Bastards.
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Re: Bolton

Postby ecc » Sat May 04, 2019 2:12 pm

Been trying hard to work this one out but it's taxing my very limited brainpower as it's become a poor man's Brexit.

Bassini says he'll be in the Directors' Box at Forest tomorrow!

It's a first - I believe - for a game to be pulled. The Bolton News BWFC journo says that could result in an eight-point deduction.

" It is the first fixture in EFL history cancelled in such a fashion and is likely to land Wanderers with a points deduction next season which could be placed upon the 12-point penalty accompanying a potential insolvency event.

Some reports yesterday predicted another EIGHT points could be added to those deducted for administration, meaning Wanderers could be starting life in League One with minus 20."

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... y-weekend/

I don't know whether the first-team players are turning out tomorrow. I suspect their legal advisors will tell them they should.

Ther's a court hearing on Wednesday. Quite who will be attending I don't know. Not sure whether the judge won't decide to cancel it and order a "1-0" win to HMRC.

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Re: Bolton

Postby Nonayforever » Sat May 04, 2019 3:50 pm

Nothing will be done at the next hearing.

Nobody will stick their heads above the wall and make a decision.
Everyone is scared to make a decision in case they get sued by another party.
Thanks to the rotten system the wide boys and crooks get away running from debt and no doubt leave the bill to be picked up by HMRC, suppliers and other trusting employees.

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Re: Bolton

Postby ecc » Sun May 05, 2019 12:48 pm

Well, Bolton have got most of their first team out FWIW. Apparently some notable absentees.

"I'll be getting an update on this after the final whistle. Spoke very briefly with Phil Parkinson as he made his way into the club... Sounded like it has been a real effort to piece a squad together today."

(From Bolton News journo at the match).

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Re: Bolton

Postby Chester Perry » Tue May 07, 2019 11:11 am

Things going to the wire and they are back in the high court tomorrow,
- Anderson cannot put the club into admin because of the contractual agreement he has with Bassini
- Bassini has not got enough money since he found out about needing to have 2 years of funding up front (£14m) to get EFL and is desperately trying to get new money on board without admin
- Major creditors (particularly the Davis family) just want their money and shut of all connections with the club (they are also the only ones who can realistically put them in admin though that will cost them)
- There is still interest from others though they are squabbling amongst themselves but will only get involved if club goes into Admin

Deadline is approaching who will be the one to flick the switch - tick tock

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Re: Bolton

Postby Murger » Tue May 07, 2019 11:27 am

Funny how there's always a flurry of activity when they're due in court. It's just another can kicking ploy. Shut 'em down and be done with it.

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Re: Bolton

Postby ClaretTony » Tue May 07, 2019 11:27 am

Chester Perry wrote:Things going to the wire and they are back in the high court tomorrow,
- Anderson cannot put the club into admin because of the contractual agreement he has with Bassini
- Bassini has not got enough money since he found out about needing to have 2 years of funding up front (£14m) to get EFL and is desperately trying to get new money on board without admin
- Major creditors (particularly the Davis family) just want their money and shut of all connections with the club (they are also the only ones who can realistically put them in admin though that will cost them)
- There is still interest from others though they are squabbling amongst themselves but will only get involved if club goes into Admin

Deadline is approaching who will be the one to flick the switch - tick tock


Suggestions that the Davies family will put them into administration before the court hearing to safeguard the future of the club.

I never, ever thought it would all come to this.

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Re: Bolton

Postby ElectroClaret » Tue May 07, 2019 11:31 am

Yeah, they've just been discussing this on 5live.
Didn't know they were back in court tomorrow.

Could they actually be served with a winding-up order tomorrow on the say-so of the court itself? Suspect they'll be given more time, as before.
Either way, it does indeed look like they're screwed.
HMRC won't wait forever.

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Re: Bolton

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue May 07, 2019 11:36 am

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Re: Bolton

Postby Chester Perry » Tue May 07, 2019 4:05 pm

Still no progress on the Admin and Bassini's attempts looking increasingly forlorn, Both the club and hotel are early in the days proceedings at the court


https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/stat ... 7709067264

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Re: Bolton

Postby Spike » Tue May 07, 2019 4:08 pm

Bolton who stopped Wandering could be their new name

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Re: Bolton

Postby Chester Perry » Tue May 07, 2019 10:36 pm

Your Honour please let me take this club into administration - is effectively what will be heard in court tomorrow after Bassini failed to find a partner

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -takeover/

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Re: Bolton

Postby Royboyclaret » Tue May 07, 2019 11:17 pm

So, now the likely scenario is Mike James with the Football Ventures set-up to take control probably after administration. James is the second largest creditor as it stands with a loan of £6.5m which was secured against the Club hotel. The likelihood is now that loan will not be repaid and turned into a slice of the club.

Fascinating day ahead tomorrow as they attempt to convince the Judge that finally they have serious intentions.

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Re: Bolton

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Wed May 08, 2019 8:20 am

Bolton should fold and start again

Call it a Phoenix Club

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Re: Bolton

Postby THEWELLERNUT70 » Wed May 08, 2019 10:49 am

Breaking news

Bolton placed in administration

12 point deduction next season

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Re: Bolton

Postby Tricky Trevor » Wed May 08, 2019 10:54 am

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Breaking news
Bolton placed in administration
12 point deduction next season

Hopefully plus more for not fulfilling their fixtures.
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Re: Bolton

Postby THEWELLERNUT70 » Wed May 08, 2019 10:57 am

It's time to wrap up imo. No players, no brass and now a 12 point deduction to overcome. They wont be coming back anytime soon

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Re: Bolton

Postby ClaretTony » Wed May 08, 2019 10:57 am

From Anderson, which means it is the Eddie Davies Trust who have placed them in administration which will be protection ahead of the court hearing.

Mr Bassini, regrettably his continued time wasting and empty promises have caused a great deal of heartache and frustration for the staff and supporters alike and now leave the Eddie Davies Trust and I with little or no choice other than for one of us to place the businesses into administration, as any likelihood of finding any resolution the High Court hearing not possible.

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Re: Bolton

Postby clansman » Wed May 08, 2019 11:08 am

The court still has to agree this if they don’t it’s liquidation

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Re: Bolton

Postby summitclaret » Wed May 08, 2019 11:24 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Bolton should fold and start again

Call it a Phoenix Club

How far away ( from us ) are they?

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Re: Bolton

Postby Chester Perry » Wed May 08, 2019 11:29 am

clansman wrote:The court still has to agree this if they don’t it’s liquidation


The court will not want to be responsible for killing a club the size of Bolton, the admin will likely have an agreed outcome for the major creditor(before entering). The party who have made that agreement will negotiate with HMRC (who are fronting the High Court action), others may join the fray with a base level set on exiting admin and in 6 weeks (minimum period of admin) we should know officially who the new owners of the club are.

Following that the EFL need to decide the penalty for failing to fulfil a fixture (twice) a financial penalty is useless as is a full transfer embargo as they no longer have enough players. Lot's of talk about being a further 8 point deduction for fixtures and a soft transfer embargo (wage restricted) for up to 2 seasons. That increases the likelihood of relegation next season (Start at - 20 pts and have a much weaker team)

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Re: Bolton

Postby Lancasterclaret » Wed May 08, 2019 11:31 am

14 day extension to the winding up order so they can appoint an administrator.

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Re: Bolton

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed May 08, 2019 11:41 am

I thought the league had already tried to monitor their transfers/finances and failed at that?

Just like they let Birmingham sign someone and then try to tell them off for breaking financial regulations...


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