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Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 10:35 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
https://talksport.com/football/efl/5370 ... e-bassini/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 10:41 am
by tiger76
Tricky Trevor wrote:Bassini now telling Sky he is in charge of BWFC.
Curious who's putting the money up i wonder,i'd be wary of celebrating if i was a Bolton fan.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 10:59 am
by claptrappers_union
tiger76 wrote:Curious who's putting the money up i wonder,i'd be wary of celebrating if i was a Bolton fan.
No-one is, not through Bassini anyway. I genuinely think the man is mentally ill. He is a fantasist.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 11:23 am
by ElectroClaret
Be handy to hear from Ken Anderson now on these claims from Bassini.

Though we'd probably be none the wiser. :(

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 11:37 am
by Chester Perry
Pantomime season has had an extended run

Bassini - I have control
Anderson - Oh no you don't
Bassini - Oh yes I have
Media - Behind you
EFL - Oh no you don't

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... wanderers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 12:45 pm
by ClaretTony
Bolton’s game against Brentford, which should have been played last Saturday, has now been scrapped with Brentford being awarded a 1-0 win.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 12:47 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Jeez

That does sound like administration is next.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 12:52 pm
by nil_desperandum
Lancasterclaret wrote:Jeez

That does sound like administration is next.
I've no real axe to grind with Bolton, but to my mind administration is too good an option for them.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:01 pm
by bob-the-scutter
About time Bassini gave up and moved on to buy another club. May I nominate Blackburn?

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:28 pm
by Foulthrow
ClaretTony wrote:Bolton’s game against Brentford, which should have been played last Saturday, has now been scrapped with Brentford being awarded a 1-0 win.
Who scored?

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:31 pm
by bob-the-scutter
Foulthrow wrote:Who scored?
Do they get their win bonus?

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:33 pm
by cbx750
Foulthrow wrote:Who scored?
I think it was an own goal.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:35 pm
by FactualFrank
ClaretTony wrote:Bolton’s game against Brentford, which should have been played last Saturday, has now been scrapped with Brentford being awarded a 1-0 win.
I would have posted the GIF of that girl crying at the Turf, if I could find it.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:41 pm
by Goobs
FactualFrank wrote:I would have posted the GIF of that girl crying at the Turf, if I could find it.
Wasn't that Preston?

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:44 pm
by FactualFrank
Goobs wrote:Wasn't that Preston?
Good point! :D

It's hard to keep up with all the Lancashire clubs below us.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:45 pm
by dougcollins
ClaretTony wrote:Bolton’s game against Brentford, which should have been played last Saturday, has now been scrapped with Brentford being awarded a 1-0 win.
I'm sure it always used to be a 3-0 win in such instances, can someone clarify that?

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:48 pm
by Goobs
dougcollins wrote:I'm sure it always used to be a 3-0 win in such instances, can someone clarify that?
I believe so, yes, but then the EFL just seem to make things up as they go along. Complete joke organisation nowadays.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:53 pm
by dougcollins
I don't recall any announcement saying as much, but I suppose it hasn't happened too much recently.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:58 pm
by martin_p
According to Sky it’s the club’s own Safety Advisory Grouo that has called the match off as they couldn’t guarantee the personnel required in the stadium to keep it safe (I assume they mean stewards). Guess whoever does the stewarding at Bolton wouldn’t be that confident in getting paid for it so has decided not to bother.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:18 pm
by claretblue
Goobs wrote:Wasn't that Preston?
yeh...we'd just gone 4 - 3 up (having been 1 - 3 down) to 10 man Preston

- Big Chris hat-trick! ;)

their player was sent off (2nd yellow) for time wasting on a throw-in! :D

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:20 pm
by LeadBelly
Who scored?
Can't resist....... Harry Kane.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:34 pm
by Vegas Claret
they should just give up and merge with Wigan

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:40 pm
by Paul Waine
cbx750 wrote:I think it was an own goal.
Sounds about right, all the Bolton team were strikers for this fixture. ;)

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 3:04 pm
by ClaretTony
Foulthrow wrote:Who scored?
Ken Anderson own goal I think

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 3:14 pm
by mkmel
bob-the-scutter wrote:About time Bassini gave up and moved on to buy another club. May I nominate Blackburn?
Or Leeds

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 4:06 pm
by bob-the-scutter
mkmel wrote:Or Leeds
Good shout. They haven't had a new owner for months.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 6:51 pm
by mikeS
For not fulfilling their fixtures they should be kicked out of the football league. Put them in the Vanarama Combination or whatever it is.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 6:55 pm
by MrTopTier
they should just give up and merge with Wigan
Should merge with Blackburn and be renamed Wanky Bastards.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 2:12 pm
by ecc
Been trying hard to work this one out but it's taxing my very limited brainpower as it's become a poor man's Brexit.

Bassini says he'll be in the Directors' Box at Forest tomorrow!

It's a first - I believe - for a game to be pulled. The Bolton News BWFC journo says that could result in an eight-point deduction.

" It is the first fixture in EFL history cancelled in such a fashion and is likely to land Wanderers with a points deduction next season which could be placed upon the 12-point penalty accompanying a potential insolvency event.

Some reports yesterday predicted another EIGHT points could be added to those deducted for administration, meaning Wanderers could be starting life in League One with minus 20."

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... y-weekend/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't know whether the first-team players are turning out tomorrow. I suspect their legal advisors will tell them they should.

Ther's a court hearing on Wednesday. Quite who will be attending I don't know. Not sure whether the judge won't decide to cancel it and order a "1-0" win to HMRC.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:50 pm
by Nonayforever
Nothing will be done at the next hearing.

Nobody will stick their heads above the wall and make a decision.
Everyone is scared to make a decision in case they get sued by another party.
Thanks to the rotten system the wide boys and crooks get away running from debt and no doubt leave the bill to be picked up by HMRC, suppliers and other trusting employees.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:48 pm
by ecc
Well, Bolton have got most of their first team out FWIW. Apparently some notable absentees.

"I'll be getting an update on this after the final whistle. Spoke very briefly with Phil Parkinson as he made his way into the club... Sounded like it has been a real effort to piece a squad together today."

(From Bolton News journo at the match).

Re: Bolton

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:11 am
by Chester Perry
Things going to the wire and they are back in the high court tomorrow,
- Anderson cannot put the club into admin because of the contractual agreement he has with Bassini
- Bassini has not got enough money since he found out about needing to have 2 years of funding up front (£14m) to get EFL and is desperately trying to get new money on board without admin
- Major creditors (particularly the Davis family) just want their money and shut of all connections with the club (they are also the only ones who can realistically put them in admin though that will cost them)
- There is still interest from others though they are squabbling amongst themselves but will only get involved if club goes into Admin

Deadline is approaching who will be the one to flick the switch - tick tock

Re: Bolton

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:27 am
by Murger
Funny how there's always a flurry of activity when they're due in court. It's just another can kicking ploy. Shut 'em down and be done with it.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:27 am
by ClaretTony
Chester Perry wrote:Things going to the wire and they are back in the high court tomorrow,
- Anderson cannot put the club into admin because of the contractual agreement he has with Bassini
- Bassini has not got enough money since he found out about needing to have 2 years of funding up front (£14m) to get EFL and is desperately trying to get new money on board without admin
- Major creditors (particularly the Davis family) just want their money and shut of all connections with the club (they are also the only ones who can realistically put them in admin though that will cost them)
- There is still interest from others though they are squabbling amongst themselves but will only get involved if club goes into Admin

Deadline is approaching who will be the one to flick the switch - tick tock
Suggestions that the Davies family will put them into administration before the court hearing to safeguard the future of the club.

I never, ever thought it would all come to this.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:31 am
by ElectroClaret
Yeah, they've just been discussing this on 5live.
Didn't know they were back in court tomorrow.

Could they actually be served with a winding-up order tomorrow on the say-so of the court itself? Suspect they'll be given more time, as before.
Either way, it does indeed look like they're screwed.
HMRC won't wait forever.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:36 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
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Re: Bolton

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:05 pm
by Chester Perry
Still no progress on the Admin and Bassini's attempts looking increasingly forlorn, Both the club and hotel are early in the days proceedings at the court


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Re: Bolton

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:08 pm
by Spike
Bolton who stopped Wandering could be their new name

Re: Bolton

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 10:36 pm
by Chester Perry
Your Honour please let me take this club into administration - is effectively what will be heard in court tomorrow after Bassini failed to find a partner

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -takeover/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Bolton

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:17 pm
by Royboyclaret
So, now the likely scenario is Mike James with the Football Ventures set-up to take control probably after administration. James is the second largest creditor as it stands with a loan of £6.5m which was secured against the Club hotel. The likelihood is now that loan will not be repaid and turned into a slice of the club.

Fascinating day ahead tomorrow as they attempt to convince the Judge that finally they have serious intentions.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 8:20 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Bolton should fold and start again

Call it a Phoenix Club

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:49 am
by THEWELLERNUT70
Breaking news

Bolton placed in administration

12 point deduction next season

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:54 am
by Tricky Trevor
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Breaking news
Bolton placed in administration
12 point deduction next season
Hopefully plus more for not fulfilling their fixtures.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:57 am
by THEWELLERNUT70
It's time to wrap up imo. No players, no brass and now a 12 point deduction to overcome. They wont be coming back anytime soon

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:57 am
by ClaretTony
From Anderson, which means it is the Eddie Davies Trust who have placed them in administration which will be protection ahead of the court hearing.

Mr Bassini, regrettably his continued time wasting and empty promises have caused a great deal of heartache and frustration for the staff and supporters alike and now leave the Eddie Davies Trust and I with little or no choice other than for one of us to place the businesses into administration, as any likelihood of finding any resolution the High Court hearing not possible.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:08 am
by clansman
The court still has to agree this if they don’t it’s liquidation

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:24 am
by summitclaret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Bolton should fold and start again

Call it a Phoenix Club
How far away ( from us ) are they?

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:29 am
by Chester Perry
clansman wrote:The court still has to agree this if they don’t it’s liquidation
The court will not want to be responsible for killing a club the size of Bolton, the admin will likely have an agreed outcome for the major creditor(before entering). The party who have made that agreement will negotiate with HMRC (who are fronting the High Court action), others may join the fray with a base level set on exiting admin and in 6 weeks (minimum period of admin) we should know officially who the new owners of the club are.

Following that the EFL need to decide the penalty for failing to fulfil a fixture (twice) a financial penalty is useless as is a full transfer embargo as they no longer have enough players. Lot's of talk about being a further 8 point deduction for fixtures and a soft transfer embargo (wage restricted) for up to 2 seasons. That increases the likelihood of relegation next season (Start at - 20 pts and have a much weaker team)

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:31 am
by Lancasterclaret
14 day extension to the winding up order so they can appoint an administrator.

Re: Bolton

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:41 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
I thought the league had already tried to monitor their transfers/finances and failed at that?

Just like they let Birmingham sign someone and then try to tell them off for breaking financial regulations...