POLITICS—Chris Grayling

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:40 am

Imagine being the person to take over a job/post previously held by Chris Grayling. You'd be hailed as an immediate success following the original 'King Midas in reverse'.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by RingoMcCartney » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:47 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:40 am
Imagine being the person to take over a job/post previously held by Chris Grayling. You'd be hailed as an immediate success following the original 'King Midas in reverse'.
Keir "Captain Hindsight" Starmer only has to be capable of stringing a few coherent sentences together and given he followed Corbyn, has been hailed as the New Messiah by a few easily pleased Lefties.

:lol:

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Bigbopper » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:55 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:47 pm
Keir "Captain Hindsight" Starmer only has to be capable of stringing a few coherent sentences together and given he followed Corbyn, has been hailed as the New Messiah by a few easily pleased Lefties.

:lol:
Even so he seems to be making a pig's ear of it :D

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:24 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:47 pm
Keir "Captain Hindsight" Starmer only has to be capable of stringing a few coherent sentences together and given he followed Corbyn, has been hailed as the New Messiah by a few easily pleased Lefties.

:lol:
Seems to have touched a nerve.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:38 pm

I see the government are now praising Saudi Arabia. Oh well! :(

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by mkmel » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:09 pm

Disgusting country but unfortunately money talks
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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:00 pm

Indeed.
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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:07 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:07 am
Failed in every ministerial post he had held.

He very nearly brought the criminal justice system to its knees, before he was sacked and Michael Gove stepped in to undo most of the damage.

If Gove was the answer I really don't want to know what the question was.
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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by aggi » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:27 pm

Even with the PM fixing it for him he didn't manage to win.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rity-chair
Pretty embarrassing for Johnson and Grayling and maybe an indicator that there's starting to be some pushback on promoting incompetent sycophants.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:38 pm

Lewis has been kicked out of the party and from what I can see so far (still a bit unclear) it will mean he cannot continue to take the role.

Edit: Looking now like he will keep the role so will be interesting to see how this and the Russian report plays out

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by dougcollins » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:49 pm

Is this the top security job the top Civil Servant was 'resigned' for - so they can give it to some Government muppet?

Cummings really does run this country.
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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:52 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:38 pm
Lewis has been kicked out of the party and from what I can see so far (still a bit unclear) it will mean he cannot continue to take the role.

Edit: Looking now like he will keep the role so will be interesting to see how this and the Russian report plays out
Ah! yes the Russian report when is that going to see the light of day? it seems it might be made public next week good.

I don't know a lot about Julian Lewis, but i'd rather have someone on the intelligence committee who isn't welded to number 10, and let's be honest if the alternative is Chris Grayling then it a no-brainer for me.

Why is this government so insecure about being held to account, that's precisely the role of parliament and these committees, if the government don't like it tough, they are not above scrutiny.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by charlyt » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:57 pm

Grayling is rather my begonias this year
Superb foliage but no flowers.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:07 pm

charlyt wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:57 pm
Grayling is rather my begonias this year
Superb foliage but no flowers.
A Begonia would be more useful in Parliament than that complete feckwit.He'd struggle to run a bath.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:00 am

Only Grayling could manage to get beat in a rigged election.
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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by aggi » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:47 am

Lewis' statement leaves some awkward questions for Johnson to bluster about, avoid and brush under the carpet.

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I'm not a particular fan of Lewis but he's infinitely better qualified than Grayling for this role.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:03 pm

If I was picking sides in the school yard I'd let the other team have Grayling even if it meant they had more players on their side.
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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Gordaleman » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:12 pm

It's becoming increasingly obvious just how incompetent Boris and co are,and aggi's post above also points out how devious they are as well. Yet listening to most views on this board, most posters voted for this discredited government seemingly because they actually believed the hate that was published in the Right Wing Tory press.

Boris has said that after Covid there will be an inquiry, but don't expect a public one. Most of the facts about how they've messed up will be conveniently hidden.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by IanMcL » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:16 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:03 pm
If I was picking sides in the school yard I'd let the other team have Grayling even if it meant they had more players on their side.
I would give them Gove first, with Johnson. You just would not want them, on your side.

Cummings....I would not let near the game. He can go play with himself in the corner.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:22 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:16 pm
Cummings....I would not let near the game. He can go play with himself in the corner.
He'd enjoy that.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by AndrewJB » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:00 pm

Russian interference was claimed by Johnson to be Bermuda Triangle stuff during the election. Now Raaaab is saying it definitely happened, but the briefings are that Putin was in league with Corbyn. It’s astonishing that a report kept buried for months and months and now about to be released has moved the government from the position that “it did not happen“, to “it did happen but by the opposition.”

I suppose we can look forward to more crazy accusations against opposition people, followed by a few dead cats for when the paper is actually released.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Longsider » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:25 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:00 am
Only Grayling could manage to get beat in a rigged election.
:lol: :x :lol: :x :lol: :lol: :x

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Longsider » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:27 pm

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Cummings....I would not let near the game. He can go play with himself in the corner.
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Playing with himself will lead to bad eyesight. Might stop him driving.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Gordaleman » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:29 pm

AndrewJB wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:00 pm
Russian interference was claimed by Johnson to be Bermuda Triangle stuff during the election. Now Raaaab is saying it definitely happened, but the briefings are that Putin was in league with Corbyn. It’s astonishing that a report kept buried for months and months and now about to be released has moved the government from the position that “it did not happen“, to “it did happen but by the opposition.”

I suppose we can look forward to more crazy accusations against opposition people, followed by a few dead cats for when the paper is actually released.
You can be pretty certain of two thing. There's unlikely to be any implication of Tory involvment and also that the report will be heavily redacted.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by AndrewJB » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:06 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:29 pm
You can be pretty certain of two thing. There's unlikely to be any implication of Tory involvment and also that the report will be heavily redacted.
They won’t be able to redact all the millions they’ve received in donations from Russian oligarchs.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by IanMcL » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:08 pm

mkmel wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:09 pm
Disgusting country but unfortunately money talks
England or Saudi?

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by Gordaleman » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:11 pm

AndrewJB wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:06 pm
They won’t be able to redact all the millions they’ve received in donations from Russian oligarchs.
No, but they will be in offshore accounts that don't exist. Except for Harry Redknapps dog.

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Re: POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Post by IanMcL » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:14 pm

AndrewJB wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:00 pm
Russian interference was claimed by Johnson to be Bermuda Triangle stuff during the election. Now Raaaab is saying it definitely happened, but the briefings are that Putin was in league with Corbyn. It’s astonishing that a report kept buried for months and months and now about to be released has moved the government from the position that “it did not happen“, to “it did happen but by the opposition.”

I suppose we can look forward to more crazy accusations against opposition people, followed by a few dead cats for when the paper is actually released.
I have come to the conclusion that Cummingsky is Putin's man in the UK.
He spent a lot of time in Russia, learning his trade.

I think his mission is to weaken Britain and Europe, by extracting UK from fom Europe. The Russian's will have something on all those numskull tories, whose only interest in self wealth. Cummingsky will be able exploit that.

Every institution we hold dear, is being undermined. When you see who came up with the wheeze...it is comrade Cummingsky.
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