POLITICS—Chris Grayling

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:17 pm

What secret does this numpty have on May that enables him to keep his job? Or is it just the fear of more disruption during her negotiations.
Roads..potholes, jams, dodgy signage leading to dodgier fines.
Rail.. Northern Fail and a less than useless service nationwide.
Air.. Drones shutting down airports.
Ferries.. NotSeabourne freight. It is difficult to get sea bourne without a ferry.
Eurotunnel. Pocketing £33m after the secretive Seabourne deal

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:21 pm

Grayling, again, but twice this time. How can this throughly incompetent jerk still be in the government?

Graylings disastrous probation sell off will cost taxpayer extra 467m

https://tinyurl.com/y5qk4cwu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Law Society Gazette)

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Chris Grayling faced calls to quit today after agreeing to pay up to £33 million to Eurotunnel in a legal bust-up over extra ferry services if Britain crashes out of the EU.

https://tinyurl.com/y2pcxwrv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Evening Standard)

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:24 pm

The Hollies knew him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfaCrT2Sy6w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:24 pm

Should be sent to jail for crimes against the country.

I'm sure he would serve at least a week of a 5yr stretch.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:26 pm

The man is an utter buffoon. Probably the worst minister in decades.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:32 pm

Mind you, there's one thing he's done that others haven't. Chris Grayling is the only politician who has united Leave/Remain, left, right and centre. United in the sense that nearly everyone thinks he's a complete dick.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:31 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:Mind you, there's one thing he's done that others haven't. Chris Grayling is the only politician who has united Leave/Remain, left, right and centre. United in the sense that nearly everyone thinks he's a complete dick.

No, he's far worse than that.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:58 pm

He’s a political Ringo.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:02 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:The man is an utter buffoon. Probably the worst minister in decades.

Was just going to say, has there ever been a more incompetent Minister (of any political persuasion) in the last 50 years?

I can't think of anyone else who comes close. He is a walking disaster.

If he wasn't earning £141k a year and squandering huge sums of public money it'd be funny

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:10 pm

He ran her leadership campaign and they go back a long way, i think we can all agree he's an incompetent buffoon.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:30 pm

Never trust a Politician with a Fishy Name

Chris Grayling
Nicola Sturgeon
Alex Salmond

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:56 pm

Don't forget him knocking someone off their bike in his ministerial limo. That should have been an indicator on what was to come.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:59 pm

Bosscat wrote:Never trust a Politician with a Fishy Name

Chris Grayling
Nicola Sturgeon
Alex Salmond

Peter Pike did his bit for Burnley!

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:28 pm

IanMcL wrote:Peter Pike did his bit for Burnley!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror ... 566331.amp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:12 pm

Typical useless Tory inbred idiot what a shambles.

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:20 pm

Bosscat wrote:Never trust a Politician with a Fishy Name

Chris Grayling
Nicola Sturgeon
Alex Salmond

Sorry but the recent vote said this isn't the plaice for politics.

RMutt · Post by **RMutt** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:21 pm

£800,000 on the fees for consultants to look into Seaborne wasted too. Remember Boris' Garden Bridge? How much did that cost before it was scrapped £40 million or so? The money wasted is criminal and yet they will never be held to account, in fact in a few years they will be knighted and in the House of Lords.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:41 pm

Aclaret wrote:Sorry but the recent vote said this isn't the plaice for politics.

Fair enough but we're still whiting for official confirmation from CT.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:57 pm

He seems the ideal candidate for the Premier league top job. He can waste money at the same rate as the top clubs.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:19 pm

He's not going anywhere, is he. He's sticking his head in the sand while hoping it quickly blows over. It will be the same the next time and we all know that there will indeed be another costly and incompetent 'next time'. It's like giving Michael Crawford's Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em character a govt department to run.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:16 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:He seems the ideal candidate for the Premier league top job. He can waste money at the same rate as the top clubs.

He'd be impressed by Fulham's profligacy that's for sure,one mistake is forgivable but not seven.

https://news.sky.com/story/off-the-rail ... g-11651998

Is it any wonder he's called failing Grayling.

Of course the money the PL clubs squander isn't public money,well apart from West Ham and Tottenham,he makes Mr Bean look competent,and yet despite all these mistakes he has somehow remained in the government for 8 years,either the HOC really is lacking in talent,or he knows where the bodies are buried.

It's not often i agree with a Labour MP,but Andy McDonald is spot on "This country cannot afford Chris Grayling".

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:37 pm

You'll never guess what. Chris Grayling was born on the 1st of April 1962.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:43 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:You'll never guess what. Chris Grayling was born on the 1st of April 1962.

So was Philip Scohfield and Susan Boyle ..Lol

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:51 pm

Grayling has made the news in the U.S.

How Does He Survive? The Curious Case of ‘Failing Grayling’

Mr. Grayling’s various misadventures — 12 in all — had cost British taxpayers 2.7 billion pounds, or $3.6 billion.

https://tinyurl.com/y4ysdnko (New York Times)

Pimlico_Claret · Post by **Pimlico_Claret** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:08 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:Grayling has made the news in the U.S.

How Does He Survive? The Curious Case of ‘Failing Grayling’

Mr. Grayling’s various misadventures — 12 in all — had cost British taxpayers 2.7 billion pounds, or $3.6 billion.

https://tinyurl.com/y4ysdnko (New York Times)

Yet,seemingly otherwise intelligent people will still vote for this waste of oxygen, and his party. Unbelievable.

cblantfanclub · Post by **cblantfanclub** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:25 pm

Shared a platform with Nigel Farage and a big Leaver in the European debate. Depending on your viewpoint adds or detracts from the quality of politicians on either side of the divide.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:41 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:The man is an utter buffoon. Probably the worst minister in decades.

Hold on right there...
There's a lot of competition for that title.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:44 pm

He isn't the first politician to chuck money away on eventually abandoned projects.

Definitely won't be the last either.

claretpipe · Post by **claretpipe** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:22 pm

Don’t forget his restructuring of Probation Services to include the private sector has cost us millions as the providers have been sacked for incompetence and given a compensation package!! This idiot was Education Secretary for a while...need I say more?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:03 pm

Mark Steel tweeted about Grayling ‘his expression always seems to say you may be questioning why I just cost the country 40 million with a cock up but I just cost us £60 million with a different cock up that hasn’t come out yet!’

Just sums up another incompetent buffoon creaming it in with no one ever really doing anything about how bad he is at his job.

claretpipe · Post by **claretpipe** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:14 pm

Don’t forget his restructuring of Probation Services to include the private sector has cost us millions as the providers have been sacked for incompetence and given a compensation package!! This idiot was Education Secretary for a while...need I say more?

Pimlico_Claret · Post by **Pimlico_Claret** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:16 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Mark Steel tweeted about Grayling ‘his expression always seems to say you may be questioning why I just cost the country 40 million with a cock up but I just cost us £60 million with a different cock up that hasn’t come out yet!’

Just sums up another incompetent buffoon creaming it in with no one ever really doing anything about how bad he is at his job.

Possibly don't vote Tory in the next election, or more specifically don't vote for him in his constituency. Problem is, he'd get a number of jobs on the board of some big companies, hopefully he'll get hit by a non existent ferry or train and disappear.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:43 am

I met him once, had to give a presentation to try and explain to him what we were doing. At the time I couldn’t work out whether the empty look in his eyes was him being bored or not having a clue what I was talking about. Years later, having sort of followed his career in government, I’m fairly sure it’s the latter.

Suratclaret · Post by **Suratclaret** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:01 am

claretpipe wrote:Don’t forget his restructuring of Probation Services to include the private sector has cost us millions as the providers have been sacked for incompetence and given a compensation package!! This idiot was Education Secretary for a while...need I say more?

...and that's only part of it - not only has it cost millions and millions but the risk to the public has increased.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:25 am

Pimlico_Claret wrote:Possibly don't vote Tory in the next election, or more specifically don't vote for him in his constituency. Problem is, he'd get a number of jobs on the board of some big companies, hopefully he'll get hit by a non existent ferry or train and disappear.

He'll get re-elected at the next election,he has a majority over 20,000,in a leafy Surrey seat,so he's not going anywhere soon,this is the big problem of FPTP,it's virtually impossible to remove incompetent MP'S.

He shouldn't be in a cabinet role though,shows how poor our current parliamentarians are.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:04 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:He isn't the first politician to chuck money away on eventually abandoned projects.

He is the first to find so many different ways of burning public money. The guy has a penchant for it.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:04 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -committee

There were a few people on here who expressed fear at the idea of Dianne Abbott being Home Secretary, because she fudged numbers a few times in interviews; so it would be interesting to see their reaction to a man with such a track record of failure being made chairperson of such an important committee.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:32 am

Yet another incompetent Johnson/Cummings bootlicker who'll do as he's told. Unbelievable how someone with his track record and fall into another top job.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:13 am

AndrewJB wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:04 am
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -committee

There were a few people on here who expressed fear at the idea of Dianne Abbott being Home Secretary, because she fudged numbers a few times in interviews; so it would be interesting to see their reaction to a man with such a track record of failure being made chairperson of such an important committee.

Do you seriously think people feared Abbot as Home Secretary because she can’t add up ?? Her blatant racism,hatred of the police ,hatred of England and all it stands for not to mention her politics were somewhat more relevant . Though Grayling is indeed a bellend .
And Andrew ,with respect the correct nomenclature is “ Chair “

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:18 am

I once met him. Dead behind the eyes.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:19 am

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:13 am
Do you seriously think people feared Abbot as Home Secretary because she can’t add up ?? Her blatant racism,hatred of the police ,hatred of England and all it stands for not to mention her politics were somewhat more relevant . Though Grayling is indeed a bellend .
And Andrew ,with respect the correct nomenclature is “ Chair “

Wow!

You really have been brainwashed. Seriously.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:20 am

It never stops. Already today two Tory MPs have been made to look idiots.

Caroline Dineage on BBC Breakfast with absolutely no clue when asked about the safety and scientific advice she has received to support her decision to re open indoor swimming pools and gyms

Then you have Mark Francois who after threatening an army general that Dominic Cummings will come and sort him out has received a humiliating response to the posturing letter he sent to Barnier on behalf of the ERG. Barnier succinctly highlighted that the very things he was criticising the EU for were the very things he and his govt voted for and agreed to as part of the political declaration.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:38 am

Chris Grayling; the one that keeps floating to the top no matter how many times you flush it.

lakedistrictclaret · Post by **lakedistrictclaret** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:07 am

Failed in every ministerial post he had held.

He very nearly brought the criminal justice system to its knees, before he was sacked and Michael Gove stepped in to undo most of the damage.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:12 am

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:19 am
Wow!

You really have been brainwashed. Seriously.

Which bit is brainwashed FB?

1.That Grayling is a bellend ?
2. That Andrew needed a little spelling police /pedantary on his use of “ chair person “?
3. That the electorate “feared” Diane Abbot as Home Sec ?
Due to her.. take your pick - allegiance to JC , her racism ,
her far left politics , her obsession with race ,the list is endless .
You may worship the ground she walks on ( not you personally ) but the reasons for many many despising her politics are there for all to see.

Not looking for an argument but I really don’t see how “ brainwashing “ enters into it .

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:21 am

What is wrong with using chairperson?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:21 am

The only positive with Grayling is he's so incompetent if he gets told to bury the Russia report it will probably be in the public domain within a few hours.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:45 am

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:12 am
Which bit is brainwashed FB?

1.That Grayling is a bellend ?
2. That Andrew needed a little spelling police /pedantary on his use of “ chair person “?
3. That the electorate “feared” Diane Abbot as Home Sec ?
Due to her.. take your pick - allegiance to JC , her racism ,
her far left politics , her obsession with race ,the list is endless .
You may worship the ground she walks on ( not you personally ) but the reasons for many many despising her politics are there for all to see.

Not looking for an argument but I really don’t see how “ brainwashing “ enters into it .

"" her hatred of England and all it stands for""

To me that's OTT and sounds like something some brainless berk might drink in from a tatty right wing red top.
I don't want her ruling the country any more than you do, but I recognise ******** when I see it.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:06 am

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:21 am
What is wrong with using chairperson?

Well it’s not “wrong” per se ,but it’s being used in context where a “ chairman “ was the position . “Chair” is the commonly used term for a female chair though “ chairwoman” is occasionally used .

Where I’ve little doubt “ chairperson “ and it’s giddy left wing gender neutral credentials is gleefully used in university campuses left wing debating societies and other right on organizations ,in both the public and private sector “chair “ is the universally accepted term.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:18 am

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:45 am
"" her hatred of England and all it stands for""

To me that's OTT and sounds like something some brainless berk might drink in from a tatty right wing red top.
I don't want her ruling the country any more than you do, but I recognise ******** when I see it.

Not a totally unreasonable point, though with the exception of John McDonnell she’s the person I’d least trust as HS. Though fair play to her for having a can on the train ,that probs gave her a smidgeon of reluctant street cred from many unlikely quarters .