Cork very lucky

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:09 pm

Shouldve been a straight red then. Refs against us? Dont think so

Danieljwaterhouse · Post by **Danieljwaterhouse** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:27 pm

To be playing in the premier league

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:30 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Shouldve been a straight red then. Refs against us? Dont think so

straight red for what ?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:31 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:straight red for what ?

I wondered that - must have missed something

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:40 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:To be playing in the premier league

Not wanting to start a knocking thread, but he is certainly the weaker of our 3 CM in my opinion, I have him behind both Westwood and Hendrick in terms of quality, form and what he offers.
I am not Jeff's biggest fan, but for the pelters he gets ( and rightly so ) Cork avoids quite a bit of stick.

But he is an ever presence that's place looks nailed on every week if fit.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:44 pm

Cork is very fortunate to be in this team in my view

Danieljwaterhouse · Post by **Danieljwaterhouse** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:45 pm

I don’t want to add to a knocking thread but I’d suggest there’s serious questions around his ability to play at this level with his attributes. Too slow, too lightweight and doesn’t have the range of passing short or long to be effective in the premier league.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:46 pm

We can always replace him with another central midf - oh

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:47 pm

Considering how solid and dependable he was last season, he’s been very disappointing this.

Now we have the options available I’d go with a four of JBG Hendrick, Westwood & Brady

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Cork is very fortunate to be in this team in my view

Nobody else better to play in there right now. Cork is a good player but his form has been very patchy this season.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:48 pm

And like everyone else, he's been in good form prior to the Newcastle result.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:52 pm

So many times Cork picked up the ball in space and instead of driving into that space he turned and either played it off to the side or went backwards. He has ability, but has really struggled for form this season. I can't remember him being a serious contender for a single MOM award this season?

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Cork is very fortunate to be in this team in my view

Lol

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Cork is very fortunate to be in this team in my view

Agreed, he's been pants this season.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:03 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Lol

Inspired response

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:08 pm

taio wrote:Nobody else better to play in there right now.

Exactly.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Cork is very fortunate to be in this team in my view

Who would replace him?

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:10 pm

Cork was great until his England call up. Has been distinctly average since then

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:11 pm

Cork very lucky he’s the closest thing to an out and out destroyer in the squad. Hopefully that will be sorted this summer.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:15 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Inspired response

More bs from the gaffer

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:16 pm

Grumps wrote:Who would replace him?

Exactly. Maybe Corbyn?

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:17 pm

It’s not bs, in terms of the consistent starters he’s been our most disappointing player this season.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:23 pm

Cork's had to play in 28 of our 29 premier games this season because we've had no one else to take his place . It's been obvious for quite awhile , that we needed to bring in a centre midfielder at the last window . What's the latest on defour ?

Danieljwaterhouse · Post by **Danieljwaterhouse** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:26 pm

Bardsely: play him in a three as the anchor

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:32 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Cork was great until his England call up. Has been distinctly average since then

this

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:33 pm

and it's weird because he was our best player in the Europa League games

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:35 pm

To be honest I've felt that for the position he plays in Cork has looked a little lightweight of late, he gets knocked off the ball far too easily and often caught in possession.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:36 pm

Defour is going to see a specialist that the clubs trusted specialist has recommended he go see. He has a calf injury apparently.

Danieljwaterhouse · Post by **Danieljwaterhouse** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:36 pm

Getting caught with the ball isn’t always his fault, there’s not as much showing as perhaps he needs to be effective.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:39 pm

He’s not as good as last season but he does a hell of a lot of the spadework in that team.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:45 pm

The lack of options he has to pass it are alarming more obvious when we are chasing a game.

He's fine, but the biggest thing we need next year is a midfielder who has pace, skill, strength and size.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:48 pm

He’s a guaranteed pick I’m afraid.

Dyche likes his regulars, and certain players he would have to catch baws deep in his wife to consider leaving out.

Bit like the England goalkeepers position really.... doesn’t matter how poor the current shirt wearer is, he’s in for the long haul.

Thing is, there is no-one to come in. Hendrick could but then he moves inside and his most productive position has been given away.

Brady is fit but McNeil currently holds that slot, and Newcastle aside, does so on merit.

We are light in there in more ways than one.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:50 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:The lack of options he has to pass it are alarming more obvious when we are chasing a game.

He's fine, but the biggest thing we need next year is a midfielder who has pace, skill, strength and size.

So just like the previous half a dozen windows then.

Add a winger, number 10/striker and a full back or 2 and we may move forward this window, but don't hold your breath.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:51 pm

Grumps wrote:Who would replace him?

Good question, we've got no one available so he keeps his place, but I still think he's very fortunate given his performances this season.

We were discussing it this afternoon and I think we need a strong, mobile central midfielder in the next window.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:51 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:Defour is going to see a specialist that the clubs trusted specialist has recommended he go see. He has a calf injury apparently.

I think you'll find he uses his own medical team in Belgium

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think you'll find he uses his own medical team in Belgium

Pretty sure it was Dyche who said what Lowbank has stated

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:56 pm

Forget about D4. Won’t see him again in a meaningful role imho.

Massive, massive shame. Great player, but brittle. If my wife looked at him he’d be out for 3 months.

Mind you.... no. I’ll leave it there.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:07 pm

Genuine question, Gibson is good on the ball, wonder if he could do the job ? It would be a risk to try it obviously

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:18 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:Getting caught with the ball isn’t always his fault, there’s not as much showing as perhaps he needs to be effective.

I do agree with this to an extent but there are times when a lack of awareness costs him and he loses possession. It’s not pretty but on occasion, I’d rather see him just clear the ball.

Cork is a good player. He’s certainly been up and down this season though.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:34 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Pretty sure it was Dyche who said what Lowbank has stated

Dyche said he was going to see a second specialist - previously he's had his treatment in Belgium with his own medical people although he was in Portugal with us.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:39 pm

Cork was poor today, he lost loads of possession.

Cork and Westwood are to lightweight to play in a midfield two, we need to address this in the Summer transfer window

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Dyche said he was going to see a second specialist - previously he's had his treatment in Belgium with his own medical people although he was in Portugal with us.

Sean Dyche said: “He’s seen one of the specialists we use who we have a lot of faith in, and he advised we see a second specialist who particularly deals with calf muscle injuries, so he’s in the process of doing that. “We want to get to the bottom of it because he’s had a few ups and downs with his calf, so he wants to get to the bottom of it as well. “So he’s planning that as we speak, to go and see them.”

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Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:51 pm

Cork was completely powder-puff today. He runs around a lot but he's so weak and loses the ball often. Sadly, today's performance reflects his entire season too.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:52 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Shouldve been a straight red then. Refs against us? Dont think so

??????..

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:02 pm

Bosscat wrote:??????..

Same here, although i sit in Jimmy Mac could have been t'other end of pitch and i missed it.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:03 pm

What did he do?

I was pottering about and half watching it on the internet earlier and must not have seen "what went on"... Though I looked at the stats on the BBC earlier and he'd not even been carded?

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think you'll find he uses his own medical team in Belgium

Just quoting Dyche, it’s what he said!

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:12 pm

its Difficult to single out individuals after an inept 2nd half performance like that. However I felt Cork giving the ball away that led to their second, so soon after half time was very key. At times he can look too laid back and wasteful. He also lacks physical presence at times. That said his stats must be up there with the best and I don’t think or advocate for a minute that he’ll be rested anytime soon.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:37 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Good question, we've got no one available so he keeps his place, but I still think he's very fortunate given his performances this season.

We were discussing it this afternoon and I think we need a strong, mobile central midfielder in the next window.

Have to agree on that. and we have for some time.

Corks a reasonable player. But we need more energy, bite and power.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:47 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:Just quoting Dyche, it’s what he said!

Yes.

1. Went to see specialist the club uses and trusts.
2. That specialist has recommended he sees a particular specialist, who does calf injuries.
3. Appointment being fixed.