Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
ClaretTony
Posts: 32766
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 14741 times
Has Liked: 2856 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:14 pm

Please leave ratings for all players who have played 20 mins or more.

Scoring is from 3 to 10 as follows:

10 - Out of this World
9 - Excellent
8 - Very Good
7 - Good
6 - Average
5 - Below Par
4 - Poor
3 - Abysmal

DomBFC1882
Posts: 356
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:21 pm
Been Liked: 99 times
Has Liked: 801 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:17 pm

All 3s and that's being kind

CoolClaret
Posts: 1025
Joined: Sat May 06, 2017 7:39 pm
Been Liked: 365 times
Has Liked: 458 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:19 pm

Heaton 6
Bardo 4
Tarky 4
Mee 4
Taylor 6
Hendrick 5
Cork 5
Westwood 6
McNeil 5
Wood 4
Barnes 5

JBG 5
Last edited by CoolClaret on Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Lowbankclaret
Posts: 2724
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:42 pm
Been Liked: 488 times
Has Liked: 35 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:19 pm

I had to watch a stream today, due to being poorly.
I thought we played ok, I think your being very harsh.
Last edited by Lowbankclaret on Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
This user liked this post: Taffy on the wing

kaptin1
Posts: 1259
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:05 am
Been Liked: 355 times
Has Liked: 102 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by kaptin1 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:21 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 5
Mee 6
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6 / JBG 6
Cork 5
Westwood 8*
McNeill 5
Wood 5
Barnes 7 (+1 for goal)

nil_desperandum
Posts: 5512
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:06 pm
Been Liked: 1349 times
Has Liked: 2484 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:23 pm

CoolClaret wrote:Heaton 6
Bardo 4
Tarky 4
Mee 4
Taylor 6
Hendrick 5
Cork 5
Westwood 6
McNeil 5
Wood 4
Barnes 5

JBG 5
I'll be very surprised if most people rate Taylor the best of our defenders, though in fairness he didn't get anywhere near enough support against Zaha.
Generally we were fairly solid down the Bardsley / Tarks side of the defence.

FCBurnley
Posts: 3604
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:56 pm
Been Liked: 817 times
Has Liked: 431 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:26 pm

Heaton 4 Weak
Bardsley 3
Tarks 5
Mee 5
Taylor 5
Hendrick 5
Cork 4
Westwood 5
Mcneil 3
Barnes 4 ( inc 1 for goal)
Wood 3

JBG 4
Brady 3

Complete capitulation after the og. No fight. No spirit and little effort. Tried to play tippy tappy football which caused Palace zero problems. We will need to do much better than this.

taio
Posts: 5313
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:17 am
Been Liked: 1576 times
Has Liked: 140 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by taio » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:28 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 5
Mee 5
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6
Cork 5
Westwood 7*
McNeil 5
Wood 5
Barnes 5

JBG 6
Last edited by taio on Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

burnleymik
Posts: 2156
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:00 pm
Been Liked: 492 times
Has Liked: 1863 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by burnleymik » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:28 pm

Mark this game in two halves please :)

Heaton 6
Bardsley 5
Tarks 5
Mee 5
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6
Cork 5
Westwood 6
McNeil 5
Wood 4
Barnes 5

JBG 5

Felt we were unlucky to be 1-0 down at HT, but second half was a poor display all round.

*edited* - 1-0 down, not 2.
Last edited by burnleymik on Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

jdrobbo
Posts: 3819
Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:01 pm
Been Liked: 2209 times
Has Liked: 551 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:29 pm

Heaton 5
Bardsley 4
Tarkowski 4
Mee 4
Taylor 4
Hendrick 5
Cork 4
Westwood 6
McNeil 4
Barnes 5
Wood 4

JBG 4

ksrclaret
Posts: 2014
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:56 am
Been Liked: 726 times
Has Liked: 94 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:30 pm

Heaton 5
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 4
Mee 3
Taylor 4
Hendrick 6
Cork 5
Westwood 7
McNeil 5
Wood 4
Barnes 5

JBG 5
Brady 4

Better team won. We were playing well first half though and I can see why Dyche made the change, but all it did was open us right up and played into their hands, which they exploited with ease due to the woeful performance by the defence. Ben Mee was abysmal.

joey13
Posts: 4460
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm
Been Liked: 1032 times
Has Liked: 831 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by joey13 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:30 pm

burnleymik wrote:Mark this game in two halves please :)

Heaton 6
Bardsley 5
Tarks 5
Mee 5
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6
Cork 5
Westwood 6
McNeil 5
Wood 4
Barnes 5

JBG 5

Felt we were unlucky to be 2-0 down at HT, but second half was a poor display all round.
? 1-0 down at HT

MACCA
Posts: 11212
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:10 am
Been Liked: 2872 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by MACCA » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:31 pm

Heaton 5 - At least 1 looked soft, looked indecisive when striker went through, thought it was going to be a pen. Special mention to the forwards who's name I wont attempt for staying on his feet and not winning a pen.

Bardsley 5 - very poor going forward, crossing was woeful at very best.
Tarky 5 - struggled defensively, distribution poor.
Mee 5 - as above
Taylor - 6 the best of a bad bunch, some good moments, but I feared for the left side today pre kick off with Zaha their.

Hendrick - 4 lost the ball countless times, when in great positions 1st half failed to deliver numerous times, righty hooked.
Cork 5 - was lost
Westwood - 6 crossing abysmal, but some great touches and attempts to build
McNeil - 4 offered absolutely zero in the final 3rd, lost posession a lot putting us under pressure.


Wood 5 - a nothing game, needed his and our only real chance to go in
Barnes 6 - got the goal, sublime lay off for the Wood chance mentioned above


JBG - 5 huffed and puffed, but again nothing much in the way of creativity.


Tactically outclassed today by the opposition, and i felt we were 2nd best in every single department.
We did have a good spell without really causing them many problems.
One thing that got to me was the amount of crosses, corners and throughballs were majorly over hit. We seemed to get in some good positions only for them to go to total waste.
Sadly we don't have the ability to switch approach or tactics during the game when it clearly isn't working, the bench lacks game changers and the approch stays the same.


Sometimes you've just got to doff your cap to the opposition doing their homework, nulifying our stregth, exposing our weaknesses and picking a team and system to do that with relative ease.

joey13
Posts: 4460
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm
Been Liked: 1032 times
Has Liked: 831 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by joey13 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:31 pm

Heaton 5
Bardsley 4
Tarkowski 4
Mee 4
Taylor 4
Hendrick 5
Cork 4
Westwood 6
McNeil 3
Barnes 5
Wood 4

JBG 4

Taffy on the wing
Posts: 605
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:41 am
Been Liked: 162 times
Has Liked: 581 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:32 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:All 3s and that's being kind
Ridiculous!..........**** off and watch another team!

Vegas Claret
Posts: 14976
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
Been Liked: 4816 times
Has Liked: 2182 times
Location: clue is in the title

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:33 pm

Heaton 4
Bardo 4
Tarky 3
Mee 3
Taylor 6
Hendrick 5
Cork 5
Westwood 6
McNeil 4
Wood 4
Barnes 5

JBG 5
Brady 5

nowhere near close enough to our standards, our record against those around us is abysmal

PhiladelphiaChris
Posts: 243
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:04 pm
Been Liked: 29 times
Has Liked: 180 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by PhiladelphiaChris » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:35 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 6
Mee 5
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6
Cork 5
Westwood 7
McNeil 5
Barnes 6
Wood 5

JBG 5

burnleymik
Posts: 2156
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:00 pm
Been Liked: 492 times
Has Liked: 1863 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by burnleymik » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:35 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:I'll be very surprised if most people rate Taylor the best of our defenders, though in fairness he didn't get anywhere near enough support against Zaha.
Generally we were fairly solid down the Bardsley / Tarks side of the defence.
Think you have this wrong mate. He did well with Zaha most of the game, he was exposed though.

MDWat
Posts: 1440
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:42 pm
Been Liked: 478 times
Has Liked: 158 times
Location: Bradford
Contact:

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by MDWat » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:35 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 4
Tarkowski 5
Mee 3
Taylor 6
Hendrick 5
Cork 4
Westwood 4
McNeil 4
Barnes 6*
Wood 4

Gudmundsson 4

Moorite
Posts: 439
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:26 pm
Been Liked: 120 times
Has Liked: 71 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Moorite » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:37 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 6
Tarky 5
Mee 5
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6
Cork 5
Westwood 7*
McNeil 6
Wood 4
Barnes 5

JBG 6
Last edited by Moorite on Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

joey13
Posts: 4460
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm
Been Liked: 1032 times
Has Liked: 831 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by joey13 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:37 pm

burnleymik wrote:Think you have this wrong mate. He did well with Zaha most of the game, he was exposed though.
You are the last person to tell someone is wrong

burnleymik
Posts: 2156
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:00 pm
Been Liked: 492 times
Has Liked: 1863 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by burnleymik » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:39 pm

joey13 wrote:You are the last person to tell someone is wrong
lol, muppet.

bfcjg
Posts: 5352
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:17 pm
Been Liked: 1993 times
Has Liked: 1956 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by bfcjg » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:42 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 4
Tarky 5
Mee 5
Taylor 8 mom
Hendrick 5
Cork 5
Westwood 7
McNeil 3
Wood 4
Barnes 5

JBG 6
Last edited by bfcjg on Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

ClaretTony
Posts: 32766
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 14741 times
Has Liked: 2856 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:43 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 5
Mee 5
Taylor 5
Hendrick 6
Westwood 7
Cork 4
McNeil 4
Barnes 6
Wood 5

JBG 5

Crazy game but we lost it once the second goal went in.

Jakubclaret
Posts: 1927
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:47 pm
Been Liked: 222 times
Has Liked: 178 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:43 pm

burnleymik wrote:Think you have this wrong mate. He did well with Zaha most of the game, he was exposed though.
He didn’t get enough support & he was the best of a bad bunch.
This user liked this post: burnleymik

DomBFC1882
Posts: 356
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:21 pm
Been Liked: 99 times
Has Liked: 801 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:48 pm

[quote="Taffy on the wing"]Ridiculous!..........**** off and watch another team![/quot

I take it you thought it was a great performance? It was dire, no real shots on goal, countless misplaced passes, sloppy with possession and in the end we should be grateful it was only 3. How about you f*** off and watch another team if you cant see the obvious and admit we were shite

Taffy on the wing
Posts: 605
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:41 am
Been Liked: 162 times
Has Liked: 581 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:13 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Typical response......how can you give Westwood 3? he was tremendous, and bossed the game first half.
Your reaction to a loss, is that of a big spoiled baby who didn't get what he wanted!...... Grow up.

Pstotto
Posts: 4383
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:11 pm
Been Liked: 807 times
Has Liked: 643 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Pstotto » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:21 pm

I've watched the goals and Heaton couldn't have done anything for any of them, so why he's been so poorly rated don't know. Bardsley turns his body towards the goal for the first, bizarre, two narrow defending for the second, fantastic finish and then too narrow defending and comical response to Zaha, like small kittens watching a ball, keeper no chance of seeing it.

DomBFC1882
Posts: 356
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:21 pm
Been Liked: 99 times
Has Liked: 801 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:23 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:Typical response......how can you give Westwood 3? he was tremendous, and bossed the game first half.
Your reaction to a loss, is that of a big spoiled baby who didn't get what he wanted!...... Grow up.
Bossed it but yet had no real chances. Passing the ball sideways and backwards to end up eventually punting the ball long does not count as bossing the game. I will say though Taylor and Westwood were the best of a bad bunch so maybe I'll give them a 5.

Ps. You dont even know me you tool

SalisburyClaret
Posts: 1380
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:32 pm
Been Liked: 389 times
Has Liked: 203 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:27 pm

Heaton 4
Bardsley 6
Tarks 5
Mee 6
Taylor 7
Hendrick 6
Cork 7
Westwood 8*
Mcneil 4
Barnes 5
Wood 5

JBG 6
Brady 3

Iloveyoubrady
Posts: 517
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:30 am
Been Liked: 60 times
Has Liked: 11 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:27 pm

Heaton 6 nothing to do really
Bardsley 4 poor delivery and too slow
Tarkowski 6 average
Mee 5 pretty poor
Taylor 7 great going forward and not bad against Zaha

Hendrick 5
Cork 4 terrible
Westwood 6
McNeil 4 terrible

Wood 6 no service, did well with the ball when he had it
Barnes 5 didn’t fall for him today


JBG 6 was better
Brady 5 pretty poor
Crouch 3 terrible, why Vydra can’t get any game time is beyond me????

KlyBfc
Posts: 382
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:38 pm
Been Liked: 84 times
Has Liked: 54 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by KlyBfc » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:31 pm

First half was decent enough but that second half reminded me of the Watford home game. Our biggest strength is also our biggest weakness (familiarity and continuity, no real plan b.

Heaton 6
Bardsley 5
Taylor 4 awful second half, failed to close down /put any pressure on the winger for the second and turned inside out and upside down by zaha for the 3rd
Tarks 5
Mee 5
Hendrick 6 one of our better players first half imo a couple of lovely passes to open good opportunities up
Westwood 7 mom
McNeil 5
Cork 5
Barnes 5 and that’s very very generous with +1 for the goal and delicate touch / assist
Wood 6 should have scored but first half ran the channels well and over all created opportunities with some good headers

JBG 4
Brady 4

fungus_the_bogeyman
Posts: 288
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:16 pm
Been Liked: 83 times
Has Liked: 64 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by fungus_the_bogeyman » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:39 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 4
Taylor 5
Tarkowski 4
Mee 4
Hendrick 6
McNeil 4
Westwood 6
Cork 4
Wood 5
Barnes 6

JBG 4
Last edited by fungus_the_bogeyman on Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Lancasterclaret
Posts: 16144
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:09 pm
Been Liked: 5135 times
Has Liked: 2936 times
Location: Riding the galactic winds in my X-wing

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:40 pm

Never a game in which we deserved to lose as comprehenively as it looked, but Palace do tend to exploit their incredibly pace when teams let them do it and our 2nd half performance could best be described as "45 minutes of how not to play against fast counter attacking teams"

Its not exactly news, but we concede the first goal and we struggle. So concede one when we were comfortably the better team is annoying.

First half was more than fine, 2nd half wasn't

Heaton 6
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 5
Mee 5
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6 - unlucky to be hooked I thought, we really struggled 2nd half and the quality of crossing continued to be zero.
Cork 5
Westwood 6
O'Neil 5
Wood 5
Barnes 6

Subs
JBG 4
Brady 4
Crouch 4

We got into positions to put in great crosses time and time again. And we didn't. Palace even let us overlap on both wings at times, secure in the knowledge that the cross would be crap and they could break. That needs sorting asap.
This user liked this post: xxmunkyennuixx

Scott Arfield's Swag
Posts: 38
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:30 pm
Been Liked: 12 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Scott Arfield's Swag » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:53 pm

Heaton 5
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 4
Mee 5
Taylor 5
Hendrick 5
Cork 5
Westwood 7
McNeil 5
Barnes 6
Wood 5

JBG 5

andyh
Posts: 690
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:27 am
Been Liked: 250 times
Has Liked: 79 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by andyh » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:53 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 4
Mee 5
Taylor 6
Hendrick 5
Cork 5
Westwood 6
McNeil 4
Wood 4
Barnes 4

JBG 5

Poor. V poor.

RalphCoatesComb
Posts: 3684
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:38 pm
Been Liked: 1198 times
Has Liked: 1206 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:19 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 5
Mee 5
Taylor 6
Hendrick 5
Cork 5
Westwood 7 (MOM)
McNeil 5
Wood 5
Barnes 6

JBG 6

A game of two halves. The difference, and it hurts me to say it, was Zaha. He made our defenders look foolish at times. Just as well that those times were few.

claretspice
Posts: 4380
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:13 am
Been Liked: 1950 times
Has Liked: 85 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by claretspice » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:23 pm

We said in the pub pre game that this was likely to be a game where the first goal was disproportionately important, and so it proved. But these marks will be higher than many on this thread because I don't think the performance was that bad.

Heaton - 6 - No chance with any of the goals, but in truth (apart from making himself big once in the second half) not really given too much to do either.

Bardsley - 5 - Tidy enough defensively, but a disproportionate number of the opportunities to find a final ball fell his way, and his lack of quality delivery was exposed.

Taylor - 6 - A willing threat going forwards, but his crossing was disappointing, and defensively he never really got to grips with Zaha, or indeed Townsend when he came on.

Tarkowski - 7 - Thought he stood up to the challenge well enough.

Mee - 6 - Didn't do enough to help Taylor for the third goal, but generally speaking he was OK.

Westwood - 7 - Buzzed around effectively and ran the show in the first half, but until his delivery for the consolation goal, his final ball was as lacking as anyone else's in the second half, and even at 1-3 he passed up a really good chance from 16 yards to reduce arrears further.

Cork - 5 - Not terrible, and it's worth remembering he and Westwood gave us the midfield platform to dominate the first half, but in the second half he was neither able to offer the craft or range of passing to break Palace down, nor the athleticism to live with Kouyate in particular on the break.

Hendrick - 6 - with hindsight, his greater athleticism would have been handy alongside Westwood in the second half, but the sub made sense at the time - even though he'd performed as anyone in the first half, we needed a natural crosser of the ball down the right hand side.

McNeil - 6 - perhaps some of the ratings reflect how much we've come to expect of him so quickly, because I thought he did OK today and he certainly wasn't markedly worse than in some of his performances in this recent run in the team. He didn't get too many crossing opportunities today (and perhaps teams are getting wide to his threat, and the fact he's only trying to go on the outside because he's a bit one footed, which is something he'll have to get to grips), and his movement will improve with time, but he showed some nice touches and on several occasions he was the one who found the range of pass to spread the play.

Barnes - 6 - Took his goal OK, looked to fluff a better chance to reduce arrears at 2-0, some nice touches but also a bit of a lack of subtlety at times when we needed a bit of craft.

Wood - 6 - Carried a threat, and very unlucky when Hennessey made a good save at 1-0 in the first half, and generally his link play was tidy enough on a day when the service into him didn't give him too many chances to score a goal.

JBG - 5 - Some neat enough touches, but he was as guilty as anyone of fluffing his lines when it came to the final ball.

Brady - 6 - He's looked bright and purposeful in his last two cameos, which is good news, but he was another that was unable to find a killer ball.

Crouch - 5 - Added a nuisance value, and was a bit unlucky not to reduce arrears further when Hennessey made a great save at 3-1.


In the last two games we've come across teams coached by managers who take a lot of care about how to stop the opposition, and unfortunately it has shown - especially once they've got themselves ahead. This wasn't awful, and we dominated the first half and were desperately unlucky to be behind to a freak own goal - but a combination of our limitations, Palace's well drilled defence and conditions which were not conducive to trying to break down a stubborn rearguard (especially not via our favoured method of getting wide and getting crosses in) meant that this was a frustrating afternoon, and certainly once we went 2-0 down for plenty of neat approach play in the middle of the park, the quality of our final ball was disappointingly poor. The shape of the game played into Palace's hands and their speedy front line, and Zaha in particular, showcased their superior individual quality.

But we've played no better than this and won this season - Cardiff away, Brighton at home even - and the real difference has been getting the break to get the first goal. Fine margins in this league and they didn't go our way today. Had they done so, the same quality of performance would probably be getting much more positive reviews.

Still in a decent enough position though, however frustrating an afternoon it may have been.
These 2 users liked this post: xxmunkyennuixx Ashingtonclaret46

nil_desperandum
Posts: 5512
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:06 pm
Been Liked: 1349 times
Has Liked: 2484 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:22 pm

KlyBfc wrote: Taylor 4 awful second half, failed to close down /put any pressure on the winger for the second and turned inside out and upside down by zaha for the 3rd
That's why I expressed surprise at an early poster making him the pick of the defence. For me Taylor and Mee never got their act together, and all 3 goals came about due to our weakness down that side which - sadly - the manager could have addressed, or tried to address early in the game.

Dark Cloud
Posts: 3449
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:03 am
Been Liked: 914 times
Has Liked: 1106 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:25 pm

Heaton 7
Bardsley 6
Tarks 7
Mee 7
Taylor 7
Cork 6
Westwood 8 (MOM)
McNeil 5
Hendrick 6
Barnes 6
Wood 5

Brady 4
JBG 5

This reminded me a bit of Newcastle at home. Ultimately all doom and gloom because of the result, but actually not the worst performance in the world and could so easily have been a different result. First half we were good and went in behind to one single serious attack and a very unfortunate own goal. Second half we fell away after their second which again came out the blue and for all our good play our crossing was woeful, let us down time and again and we didn't make actually many really clear cut chances. JBG slipped for the third which was plain bad luck, but we have to dust ourselves down and move on. Are we going to survive? Anyone watching today or on Tuesday would think maybe not, but anyone watching last Saturday would say definitely yes. We have to find a couple of wins from somewhere and one ain't going to be next Sunday, even though I've got me ticket!!! So our performances against Leicester, Wolves and Cardiff have to be more more potent than today and get us what we need. Mmmmm. It's going to be close i suspect.

Flat Stanley
Posts: 248
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:41 pm
Been Liked: 46 times
Has Liked: 79 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Flat Stanley » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:40 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 4
Mee 3
Tarks 4
Taylor 5
Cork 4
Westwood 6
McNeil 5
Hendrick 4
Wood 3
Barnes 5

JBG 5
Brady 3

strayclaret
Posts: 304
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:30 pm
Been Liked: 26 times
Has Liked: 23 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by strayclaret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:41 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 5
Taylor 7
Hendrick 6
Cork 5
Westwood 7
McNeil 5
Barnes 5
Wood 5

JBG 6
Too predictable, poor crossing failed to beat first man on numerous occasions. Front 2 starved of service, again :cry:

IanMcL
Posts: 15539
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:27 pm
Been Liked: 3123 times
Has Liked: 3538 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by IanMcL » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:41 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 7
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6
Cork 6
Westwood 7
McNeil 6
Barnes 6
Wood 6

JBG 6

I thought we played well. Apart from the result, we did.
Some better work at the top end and it could have been a win. Could have had 3 in last 5 mins...although some were not there to see that.

Up the Clarets
This user liked this post: Taffy on the wing

Buxtonclaret
Posts: 8825
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:05 am
Been Liked: 2158 times
Has Liked: 4078 times
Location: Derbyshire

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:44 pm

Heaton 6
Bards 6
Tarks 5
Mee 4
Taylor 6

Hendrick 6
Westwood 7
Cork 4
McNeil 4

Barnes 5
Wood 4

JBG 5

TVC15
Posts: 6038
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:09 pm
Been Liked: 2446 times
Has Liked: 399 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by TVC15 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:16 pm

Thought we played well in the first half but even then Zaha showed 2 or 3 times that he could cause havoc.
Losing the unlucky own goal played massively into their hands of playing on the counter attack.
Whatever we discussed at half time was blown out of the water by a very good second goal from Palace. I thought after the second they completely outclassed us up until the last 10 minutes where we picked up again.
Over the full 90 minutes Palace were quite a lot better than us IMHO and tactically their manager got it spot on.

Heaton 6 - not a lot wrong
Bardsley 4 - poorest game in a long time.
Tarks 4 - ditto (he was poor at Newcastle also)
Mee 5 - better than Tarks but not good
Taylor 6 - thought he played well again but Zaha was just too good.
Cork 4 - poor and contributed very little
Westwood 7 - our best player by a mile
Hendrick 6 - thought he was doing well and didn’t deserve to be hooked at half time.
McNeil 5 - hard for him but I thought he was doing fine and got subbed a little early.
Barnes 5 - did ok....great touch in first half
Wood 4 - missed big chance and struggled after

JBG 4
Brady 4
This user liked this post: dougcollins

Colburn_Claret
Posts: 3880
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:30 pm
Been Liked: 1499 times
Has Liked: 2161 times
Location: Catterick N.Yorks

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:33 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 6
Tarks 5
Mee 7
Taylor 7
Hendrick 6
Cork 4
Westwood 8 mom
McNeil 6
Barnes 6
Wood 6

Strange game, played ok first half without being clinical enough. The early goal second half killed us, 2 down and they'd done nothing.
The big disappointment was our lack of a response. The crosses into the box were very poor all day, we just weren't clever enough with the ball.
Westwood was excellent, certainly didn't deserve to be on a losing side. Cork was lightweight again, he gets bullied off the ball far too easily.
McNeil looks tired and needs using wisely, he could do with building up himself during the summer.

It's a game that on another day we could easily have won, but somehow didn't deserve to by the end.
This user liked this post: clitheroeclaret2

bfcmik
Posts: 2001
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:03 pm
Been Liked: 538 times
Has Liked: 595 times
Location: Solihull Geriatric Centre

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by bfcmik » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:38 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:I had to watch a stream today, due to being poorly.
I thought we played ok, I think your being very harsh.
We must have looked better on TV than we did from the CFS because I thought we did OK for part of the 1st half and looked like we could get back into it but then faded dreadfully after the interval and looked as bad as we did in October & November (or last Tuesday).

Heaton 5
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 5
Mee 6
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6
Cork 6
Westwood 8*
McNeill 6
Wood 6
Barnes 6 (including 1 for the goal)

JBG 4 Jeff hadn't set the world alight but JBG offered nothing.
Brady 5

Top Claret
Posts: 2462
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:50 am
Been Liked: 550 times
Has Liked: 509 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Top Claret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:42 pm

Heaton 8
Bardsley 7
Tarks 6
Mee 7
Taylor 8
McNeil 5
Cork 4
Westwood 5
Hendrick 5
Taylor 6
Barnes 5
Subs
Brady 4
Gudmonson 5

Good 1st half poor 2nd. We really need to address the midfield two in the Summer transfer window. Cork and Westwood are just not strong enough to play together

Claret
Posts: 526
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:57 pm
Been Liked: 197 times
Has Liked: 301 times

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by Claret » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:47 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Taylor 6
Hendrick 6
Cork 6
Westwood 7
McNeil 6
Barnes 7
Wood 5

JBG 6

DAVETHEVICAR
Posts: 1443
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:33 pm
Been Liked: 421 times
Has Liked: 913 times
Location: Lincoln

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:02 pm

Heaton 6
Bardsley 5
Mee 5
Tarkowski 5
Taylor 7

Hendrick 7
Cork 5
Westwood 8
McNeil 5

Barnes 6
Wood 5

Gudmundsson 5

Post Reply