Cardiff

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:49 pm

I know it's been done to death but I think the max they will get is 2 wins from their fixtures and whatever they get at ours so if we avoid defeat against them and pick up a draw against wolves or leicester we would still survive , that would be a pretty lucky escape !!!

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:51 pm

even if we dont win another game we wont go down

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:57 pm

It’s strange to think that we can even afford to be marginally worse than Cardiff in the last 9 games and still survive.

However, we don’t want to be going into those last 4 games just a few points ahead of them.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:00 pm

Cardiff looked like they were going to rally after that win against Bournemouth, but they’ve just fallen apart. This last week has been a disaster for them, and Sol Bamba’s injury spells further trouble. Beat them at home and it *should* be game over.

What a shame eh...

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:17 pm

SGr wrote:Cardiff looked like they were going to rally after that win against Bournemouth, but they’ve just fallen apart. This last week has been a disaster for them, and Sol Bamba’s injury spells further trouble. Beat them at home and it *should* be game over.

What a shame eh...

They look resigned to going down which is good news hopefully we can put a couple more points between us before we play them we really don't want to end up in the bottom 3 after we play them

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:22 pm

They played an awful lot better than we did today

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:22 pm

We beat them we stay up. 17th will be a tremendous finish for us after the start we had.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:24 pm

I don't care if we stay up on goal difference, as long as we stay up !

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:35 pm

Bamba picked up an injury today, going off on a stretcher for them. One of their key players.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:36 pm

We'll get hammered next week then get 10 points from the next 4 games and be absolutely fine.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:41 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:They played an awful lot better than we did today

Not according to their fans:
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewt ... 2&t=205564" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:44 pm

Spijed wrote:Not according to their fans:
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewt ... 2&t=205564" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I watched it, they can't defend and I can see us deffo getting at them but they were very decent for large parts

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:45 pm

Spijed wrote:Not according to their fans:
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewt ... 2&t=205564" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or the stats.

Not sure how Vegas managed to watch two games at the same time either.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:50 pm

jdrobbo wrote:Bamba picked up an injury today, going off on a stretcher for them. One of their key players.

Is he? I know he’s a threat from a set piece but he has looked a liability defensively from what I’ve seen.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:52 pm

Safe to say as the fallout from the plane tragedy continues to play out in the public eye, their performances will suffer.

But we have to get a result v them, and probably another couple of points somewhere else.

Which we should to, we still look more than capable of surviving.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:53 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Or the stats.

Not sure how Vegas managed to watch two games at the same time either.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:55 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Or the stats.

Not sure how Vegas managed to watch two games at the same time either.

I didn't, I watched 3 like I do every week

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:56 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:I didn't, I watched 3 like I do every week

That explains a lot.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:59 pm

Tall Paul wrote:That explains a lot.

?

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:08 pm

If we match or better Cardiffs results till end of season we stay up.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:28 pm

Aclaret wrote:If we match or better Cardiffs results till end of season we stay up.

And also afford to be four points worse off from the remaining results (five with their GD).

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:47 pm

To think we are at the stage where we are relying in us bettering the results in cardiffs run in

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:48 pm

Well, we are

We've had a poor season. Its just what it is.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:50 pm

Cardiff are poor and getting worse.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:56 pm

IanMcL wrote:Cardiff are poor and getting worse.

After our last 2 results we should be thankful for that.

Just a shame we couldn't win today as that would have virtually guaranteed survival,from the remaining games we should be able to pick up 7/8 points surely to goodness,that would require Cardiff to win 4 and probably draw a couple unlikely.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:01 pm

It's a shootout between us at the Turf. Lose and we will go down.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:04 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:It's a shootout between us at the Turf. Lose and we will go down.

After we beat Liverpool away and Leicester at home .... don't think so

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:I didn't, I watched 3 like I do every week

Is this your Lounge " Vegas Claret " ? ......

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Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:09 pm

Bosscat wrote:After we beat Liverpool away and Leicester at home .... don't think so

Hopefully.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:13 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:It's a shootout between us at the Turf. Lose and we will go down.

Depends how many points we are in front of Cardiff.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:24 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:It's a shootout between us at the Turf. Lose and we will go down.

Quite possible that Cardiff's only win between now and the season end could be at Turf Moor. None of their remaining games are easy - not even Fulham (away). The rest of their games are tough.
Their away record is v poor and their home games are WHU, Chelsea, Liverpool and Palace, (who as we now know are pretty good away)

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:37 pm

Psychology is important if Cardiff beat WHU at home next week,which they could then the gap is only 2 points,prior to our trip to Anfield,i don't think even the most optimistic Claret expects us to return home with anything from there,this set of results puts a lot of pressure on our home game with Leicester,who are a classic counter-attacking side like Palace.

We've been fortunate Cardiff have hit the buffers in their last 3 games,but relying on their failings is dangerous,we have to put the points on the board ourselves.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:02 am

Vegas Claret wrote:They played an awful lot better than we did today

Just seen the highlights of Cardiff’s game where they appeared to play a whole lot worse than us and were unlucky not to lose by a bigger margin.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:28 am

Rileybobs wrote:Just seen the highlights of Cardiff’s game where they appeared to play a whole lot worse than us and were unlucky not to lose by a bigger margin.

you saw the highlights, did that show the full first 20 mins where Cardiff should have scored at least 1 early on ? Or the chances they created in the second half ?

Tread Warily · Post by **Tread Warily** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:08 am

theroyaldyche wrote:even if we dont win another game we wont go down

Go on ! enlighten us?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:37 am

We are playing well enough to win matches.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:42 am

IanMcL wrote:We are playing well enough to win matches.

Excluding the last two

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:44 am

Vegas Claret wrote:you saw the highlights, did that show the full first 20 mins where Cardiff should have scored at least 1 early on ? Or the chances they created in the second half ?

Yes it showed their chances and it also showed Wolves’ far better chances. It also showed their expected goals as 0.59 to Wolves’ 2.85. I don’t need to have watched the full match to see that they didn’t play a whole lot better than us. I also fail to see how you watched the whole match when you were watching two others simultaneously.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:44 am

Tread Warily wrote:
Go on ! enlighten us?

It would make for a very nervous end to the season, but it's quite possible that 2, 3 or certainly 4 draws would be enough - so long as one of those draws is against Cardiff. (I suppose that's what he mean't)

Joe14 · Post by **Joe14** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:52 am

duncandisorderly wrote:We'll get hammered next week then get 10 points from the next 4 games and be absolutely fine.

Bet we don’t. Not saying we will win or even draw but we try harder when the world is doubting us.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:56 am

Had a dream last night,we go into the last game needing to beat Arsenal to stay up,1-1 in the 98th minute and Mike Dean gives us the most dodgy penalty imaginable,Barnes has been subbed so Peter Crouch steps up to take the penalty he hits it to the keepers right he tips it onto the post,it come back off the post and hits the keepers head and trickles over the line,Dean blows for full time cue Mayhem,well it is Burnley we always do it the hard way....Karma though for all the shite we have suffered against the Arsenal,and a sub plot was Arsenal had to only draw to get a Champions league place

I LOVE MY CLUB X

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:57 am

Based on current form guides with nine matches to go Cardiff got 7 pts from their last nine games, whilst we got 15 pts.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:04 pm

Cardiff are down...it's just that folk are reluctant to confirm it, to them!

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:21 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Had a dream last night,we go into the last game needing to beat Arsenal to stay up,1-1 in the 98th minute and Mike Dean gives us the most dodgy penalty imaginable,Barnes has been subbed so Peter Crouch steps up to take the penalty he hits it to the keepers right he tips it onto the post,it come back off the post and hits the keepers head and trickles over the line,Dean blows for full time cue Mayhem,well it is Burnley we always do it the hard way....Karma though for all the shite we have suffered against the Arsenal,and a sub plot was Arsenal had to only draw to get a Champions league place I LOVE MY CLUB X

Dean will blow the whistle immediately the ball hits the post. The pundits will talk endlessly on the subject - 'after goalie touches it it becomes 'second phase' and Ref can only allow time for the penalty to be taken'. Sorry!

Ticks all the conspiracy boxes - Dean being centre stage; big club favoured...…..

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:51 pm

I had a different dream and Moss was the ref. Guess which team got the pen?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:06 pm

Hipper wrote:Dean will blow the whistle immediately the ball hits the post. The pundits will talk endlessly on the subject - 'after goalie touches it it becomes 'second phase' and Ref can only allow time for the penalty to be taken'. Sorry!

Ticks all the conspiracy boxes - Dean being centre stage; big club favoured...…..

Hipper,it's my dream I say what goes on

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:16 pm

summitclaret wrote:I had a different dream and Moss was the ref. Guess which team got the pen?

How shite was your dream!

Suratclaret · Post by **Suratclaret** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:32 am

summitclaret wrote:I had a different dream and Moss was the ref. Guess which team got the pen?

Anything involving Moss couldn't possibly be described as a dream...it would be the worst of nightmares.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:15 pm

I think much depends on how Cardiff do against West Ham next week.

They'll know that If they can get a win (or possible even a draw) they'll be two points behind us
assuming we get beat at Liverpool. They'll then face Chelsea at home and Man City away afore
they come to the Turf and be hoping we don't pick up many points against Leicester and Wolves at home
and Bournemouth away.
If they don't beat West Ham and we manage to pick up a few points from our games
then we could easily be 7 or 8 points (possibly even more) ahead of them when they come to the Turf.

And then it's in our hands and even a draw against them might suffice.
A win for us should make us safe and too far ahead of them given their last remaining games.

At least I hope that's the way it goes.

Ideally I'd hope we can pick up a couple of wins (or even one win and three points) before we face
them and then it won't be a must win game for us as we're already too far ahead.

Be great if we could seal our survival with a win against them and go into our last 4 games
without having to worry and/or get a couple of more points.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:41 am

Steve1956 wrote:Hipper,it's my dream I say what goes on

My dream seems to predict the future though:

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... =2&t=37276" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well nearly anyway - see post 91 on page 2.