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Play off final 1994

Post by Longsidebovril » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:34 pm

https://youtu.be/mGZ9fKhjPPE

I hadn’t seen this footage before.
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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Venkys4eva » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:40 am

Its footage from the official video produced by the club at the time. Good video but truly awful commentators, to this day I have to watch it on mute :D
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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Longsidebovril » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:25 pm

Ah. The only one I found before has some weird dance music playing over it.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Foulthrow » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:15 pm

I hadn’t seen it before either. Really enjoyed it , thanks for posting.

Still annoyed that my dad wouldn’t take me to the game. There was so much I’d forgotten about that match.

Who was the bloke in the suit interviewed at the start? He had grey hair, just after the Inchy interview. Middlemass?

Was it Kevin Francis who got the second red? It looked like it on those highlights but I thought it was someone else.

And that run from Steve Davis. That would have been one of Burnley’s greatest ever goals if he’d scored.

Also, didn’t John Francis pick up a serious injury in the final? Wasn’t shown on the video.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:17 pm

Foulthrow wrote:I hadn’t seen it before either. Really enjoyed it , thanks for posting.

Still annoyed that my dad wouldn’t take me to the game. There was so much I’d forgotten about that match.

Who was the bloke in the suit interviewed at the start? He had grey hair, just after the Inchy interview. Middlemass?

Was it Kevin Francis who got the second red? It looked like it on those highlights but I thought it was someone else.

And that run from Steve Davis. That would have been one of Burnley’s greatest ever goals if he’d scored.

Also, didn’t John Francis pick up a serious injury in the final? Wasn’t shown on the video.
Wallace went 1st and then Beaumont sent off 2nd.
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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:21 pm

Francis stayed on right to the end and even with 9 men he was a constant threat. We kept missing great chances to put the game away (Joyce twice - one hits the bar and isn't on that footage I don't think and then Davis) Francis then missed a great chance to equalise for them right at the death which would have been totally unreal and an absolute sickener.
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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Zom Zom » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:28 pm

One of my enduring memories from that day is of Kevin Francis applauding the Claret hoardes as he left the pitch.

Stockport, on the pitch at least, were great fun in those days, for me at least. Most games were memorable. Just a pity their Neanderthal supporters had to make a fist of things. I recall they even battled among themselves during the game.

I liked Kevin Francis, and of course he is related to Super Johnny Francis.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:32 pm

Truly awful commentary, i watched the tape once and put it away never to be seen again.

The youtube video with weird music and alternative commentary (from Radio Lancashire) is still better than listening to that blokes high pitched grating voice.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:34 pm

Kevin Francis was a good player and was linked with us more than once I think. He reminds me so much of Crouch as his ridiculous height meant he was quite obviously good in the air, but he was a very decent player on the deck too and people often overlooked that.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:36 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Kevin Francis was a good player and was linked with us more than once I think. He reminds me so much of Crouch as his ridiculous height meant he was quite obviously good in the air, but he was a very decent player on the deck too and people often overlooked that.
Isn't he a sheriff in Canada or something like that now?

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:38 pm

Goody1975 wrote:Isn't he a sheriff in Canada or something like that now?
Yes, I actually think that's true. I'm sure I read it not long ago. Emigrated and joined the "Mounties" after he stopped playing.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:39 pm

Who were the two commentators?

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:42 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Who were the two commentators?
Chuckle Brothers!
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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Foulthrow » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:46 pm

That ability to be articulate was obviously in short supply in the mid 90s. He literally cannot get any words out when we scored our second. It also cracked me up when he asked his co commentator if he’d seen what happened with the second red. When the bloke says no he apologises for asking what he thinks was “obviously an unfair question”.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:47 pm

It seems incredible now but for a period Stockport really wasn't a fixture we expected to win Danny Bergara (sp) did miracles there for a while. He even -managed to convince us Hancock was a step up in quality :-)

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dazzler » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:19 pm

Longsidebovril wrote:https://youtu.be/mGZ9fKhjPPE

I hadn’t seen this footage before.
You're not a proper fan then ;)
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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by claretdj » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:22 pm

The main commentator sounds like Derek Quinn? who covers Morecambe on BBC radio lancs.. great memories n seeing parky celebrate was fantastic throw back to a great time!

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:36 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Francis stayed on right to the end and even with 9 men he was a constant threat. We kept missing great chances to put the game away (Joyce twice - one hits the bar and isn't on that footage I don't think and then Davis) Francis then missed a great chance to equalise for them right at the death which would have been totally unreal and an absolute sickener.
John Francis went off after his injury with David Eyres playing up as the central striker. It allowed Andy Farrell to come on and become the first ever Burnley player to appear for the club on two Wembley occasions. Not too sure that John Francis played for us again after that.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:00 pm

The commentator is a bloke called mark briggs. A local bloke who is Burnley through and through. A few of you are harsh on his commentary as I didn't think he did a bad job. He is a real ale enthusiast who writes for the local telegraph.
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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:05 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:The commentator is a bloke called mark briggs. A local bloke who is Burnley through and through. A few of you are harsh on his commentary as I didn't think he did a bad job. He is a real ale enthusiast who writes for the local telegraph.
I have loads of mates who are Burnley through and through, doesn't make them good commentators, brain surgeons or rally drivers.

I'm sorry to insult Mark but his voice is not suited to commentary and it means many people do not re-watch a great day in our history.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:07 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:John Francis went off after his injury with David Eyres playing up as the central striker. It allowed Andy Farrell to come on and become the first ever Burnley player to appear for the club on two Wembley occasions. Not too sure that John Francis played for us again after that.
That's correct, I THINK? as in it's possible Johnny Francis did try to comeback from the injury, but only made a couple of starts? Not sure. (someone will know), but the "Francis" I was referring to was Kevin playing for Stockport.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by claretdj » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:07 pm

I wouldn't go that far Goody, commentary or no commentary it was a great day in bfc history.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:11 pm

claretdj wrote:I wouldn't go that far Goody, commentary or no commentary it was a great day in bfc history.
I'm not saying it wasn't a great day, it was.

We are talking about the club video, not the day.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:11 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:That's correct, I THINK? as in it's possible Johnny Francis did try to comeback from the injury, but only made a couple of starts? Not sure. (someone will know), but the "Francis" I was referring to was Kevin playing for Stockport.
Apologies Dark Cloud. I misread your post. I remember Kevin Francis being through on goal on their left wing near the end and he, fortunately for us, trod on the ball.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dazzler » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:29 pm

Super JF made 2 sub appearances in the league in the 94/95 season and one sub app. in the FA Cup.
The 95/96 season he made 4 starts in the league with 18 sub appearances.3 times as a sub in the League Cup & and one sub app. in the FA Cup.
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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dazzler » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:37 pm

To add further;he scored the 4th in the 4-3 win over Stockport at the Turf on 13th Jan 96 & scored his last goal for Burnley in a 3-3 draw v York also at home.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:38 pm

Goody1975 wrote:I'm not saying it wasn't a great day, it was.

We are talking about the club video, not the day.
You won't like the 1988 one then...Sherpa Van final

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:48 pm

tim_noone wrote:You won't like the 1988 one then...Sherpa Van final
Other options there.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Foulthrow » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:50 pm

tim_noone wrote:You won't like the 1988 one then...Sherpa Van final
Apart from the result that one is fine from a commentary point of view. On my DVD copy it’s Martin Tyler and Andy Gray doing the comms

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:51 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Apart from the result that one is fine from a commentary point of view. On my DVD copy it’s Martin Tyler and Andy Gray doing the comms
Exactly my point.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:26 pm

Goody1975 wrote:Other options there.
Aah but that isn't the actual club video that you mention is it really? that was also available to wolves. That aside nothing wrong with the 94

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:36 pm

Mark Briggs was with Radio Lancashire for quite a few years. He used to cover the local cricket as well.
Often seen up the Arbories watching both Padiham cricket and football teams.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by paulus the woodgnome » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:07 pm

One of the first games I took my nipper to. The David Eyres goal was a beaut. Also recall the pre-match game - Vintage Clarets v Wanderers Returned I think it was billed as. Noble Peter was playing - a legend in my eyes, and Steve Bull was also playing I seem to recall.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Leisure » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:48 pm

paulus the woodgnome wrote:One of the first games I took my nipper to. The David Eyres goal was a beaut. Also recall the pre-match game - Vintage Clarets v Wanderers Returned I think it was billed as. Noble Peter was playing - a legend in my eyes, and Steve Bull was also playing I seem to recall.
Aren't you thinking about the Sherpa Van final v Wolves?

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:55 pm

Leisure wrote:Aren't you thinking about the Sherpa Van final v Wolves?
No.... a pre match knock about Leisure. Burnley v stockport

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:56 pm

Youve had a long day!

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Venkys4eva » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:40 am

My enduring memory of the day is being sat behind a massive coca cola sign in what was called the gallery (I think). We could see the whole pitch but not the other side of the stadium which was very odd at the time. Still a great day despite the restricted view.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dyched » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:55 am

I’ve got a massive poster somewhere of the players celebrating. Only 6/7 back then. Does anyone remember someone falling from a train and being killed? I remember being **** scared to leave my seat and go to the toilet when we heard.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by cricketfield73 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:32 am

I'm going to put the kettle on and then watch that.
Without even switching it on, I can remember the commentator opening up with '....and the gladiators enter the arena'.
I once had a go at commentating on a few minutes video footage of football match when I was at the National Football Museum. Afterwards you could then listen to it back. I was cringing from the first word to the last, so I'm never too critical of anyone who has a go, but I don't think that guy was really up to the job of doing an official video.
Certainly makes you realise just how good Phil Bird is!

Edit - well, to say I've not seen it for 25 years, I was pretty close........

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:54 am

A coach load of us went down early the day before and stopped over. Loads of Preston were travelling on the Saturday as they were in another play off that day. Our game was Sunday. The whole trip was fantastic and to see Wembley Way and the surrounding areas absolutely awash with Burnley shirts everywhere you looked brought a tear to me eye! The whole thing definitely eclipsed and (almost!) erased the memory of the Sherpa Van which had been a huge disappointment in the end. The atmosphere inside the ground (well our end!) was unbelievable and I just wish we'd put some of those second half chances away to save me watching it all through fingers over my eyes towards the end.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Sausage » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:25 pm

Unfortunately the official video is the only version of the David Eyres goal I remember. Our car broke down on the M40 and it took the AA two hours to put in a temporary fix so that we could ditch the car in Amersham and get the train into Wembley. The result was that we missed the first half hour of the match and were sprinting up Wembley Way when Eyres equalised. The noise outside the stadium was deafening and it was pretty obvious it was the 35,000 Clarets cheering, not the 9,000 Stockport fans. I bought the video to fill in the missing half hour of that afternoon. I only watched it once because Mark Briggs' commentary made my teeth itch.

I heard a bit of Guy Havord's BBC Radio Lancashire commentary of the game a few weeks ago when they broadcast the Gary Parkinson radio documentary. Now that's a commentary that sends shivers down your spine or, in my case, brought tears to my eyes. Brilliant stuff.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Loyalclaret » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:06 pm

Dyched wrote:I’ve got a massive poster somewhere of the players celebrating. Only 6/7 back then. Does anyone remember someone falling from a train and being killed? I remember being **** scared to leave my seat and go to the toilet when we heard.
I also had the poster!
I was on the Colne Clarets train and remember them announcing it hours after people had been hanging out the windows of the train for lots of the journey! I was 9 :D

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by paulus the woodgnome » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:46 pm

Leisure wrote:Aren't you thinking about the Sherpa Van final v Wolves?
Jeez. I have managed to confuse the Stockport playoff final with the Sherpa Van Trophy final. Frankly, it's pathetic.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Leisure » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:45 am

tim_noone wrote:No.... a pre match knock about Leisure. Burnley v stockport
Sorry but the pre-match game Vintage Burnley v Wanderers was definitely played before the Sherpa Van Final. There may have been a similar game played before the Stockport match (but I don't remember it) but even if there was why would Wolves be involved?

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:59 pm

Dyched wrote:Does anyone remember someone falling from a train and being killed?
I’d never heard that but do remember a Norwich fan being killed by sticking their head out of the train window on route to the League Cup final against Sunderland.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Sausage » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:06 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:I’d never heard that but do remember a Norwich fan being killed by sticking their head out of the train window on route to the League Cup final against Sunderland.
Now where have I seen that before?
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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Dyched » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:40 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:I’d never heard that but do remember a Norwich fan being killed by sticking their head out of the train window on route to the League Cup final against Sunderland.
Not sure if it’s true or not. It certainly wasn’t on the train I was on. Older kids were playing football where the doors were on ours. I was very young though so might not have heard the full story.

As for the game I remember having confetti and throwing it all over an old couple in front and it getting tangled in the old ladys hair :lol: She saw the funny side

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by paulus the woodgnome » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:47 pm

Leisure wrote:Sorry but the pre-match game Vintage Burnley v Wanderers was definitely played before the Sherpa Van Final. There may have been a similar game played before the Stockport match (but I don't remember it) but even if there was why would Wolves be involved?
You are correct. I was being amazingly retarded.

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by Shore claret » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:07 pm

Am I right in thinking that at one point the Stockport fans were fighting between themselves?

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Re: Play off final 1994

Post by joey13 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:10 pm

Shore claret wrote:Am I right in thinking that at one point the Stockport fans were fighting between themselves?
Yes both of them
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