Whats Hapopened To Brady

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:18 am

Whats happened to this guy. Been back in the squad for a few months but just looks disinterested

If you watch the build up to Zaha's goal (the third one), look how he loses the ball and then just watches Zaha dribble his way to scoring

Sorry guys, but Hendrick gets slaughtered regularly on this site, but he would have got stuck in at that point. We are in a dog fight and everyone should be giving 100%, particularly those pulling the highest weekly wage

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:21 am

He has had a strange injury and it is hard to be certain that it hasn't affected his leg long term and his brain.
He took a long time to settle in with us when first signed and was playing his best for us when injured last year; not sure if we will ever see him play like that again.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:24 am

Great shame-he was our most creative player at that injury point eg SAints away before the injury. We have not seen a glimmer of it coming back this season

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:29 am

Wouldn’t worry about it to be honest... McNeil can step up. He just needs to improve his strength in the legs and the lungs and the position is his.

Brady was playing well up to his injury, but it took a long long while to get him up to that standard. Nothing to suggest that form would’ve continued.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:42 am

He knows mcneil is in front of him in the pecking order

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:49 am

He had half a dozen good games for us just before his injury. Prior to that he wasn't good either.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:12 am

His crossing has gone to pot too. I’ve not seen him beat the first man yet in any game.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:16 am

He's like most footballers and thrives on playing regular football.
He won't look as goos as he did pre injury, until he gets a good long run in the side.
With the way we have played until this week, and the form of McNeil and Hendrick on the wings, it's hardly surprising that he is only getting cameo roles. He'll be fine, and certainly doesn't warrant anyone getting on his back.

upanatem · Post by **upanatem** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:39 am

Socrates wrote:His crossing has gone to pot too. I’ve not seen him beat the first man yet in any game.

I've seen him beat the first man when crossing; but only when he kicks it out of play on the full!

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:40 am

How does he get that long run in the side? By demonstrating during his cameos that he can’t be left out.

He’s not doing that.

That’s not me getting on his back, it’s just an observation.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:42 am

He’s a slow starter and needs time , arguably our most skilful player

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:00 am

His corners are shite.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:04 am

On the whole he has turned out to be quite a disappointing signing.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:16 am

Hopefully it’s just a confidence thing rather than the effects of his injury. Or injuries.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:21 am

He's had three bright enough cameos today. He's clearly not quite got his match timing when he it comes to his crossing, but his general link up game has been good and he's been busy. He stretched the space in behind Wan Bissaka today in a way McNeil hadn't been able to, and he showed decent quality on occasions (most obviously the pin-point longish pass to Barnes from which Barnes tee'd up Crouch's late chance.

As others have said, he needs games and game time. That's always a bit chicken and egg. He's a good player.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:32 am

He’s always been the most inconsistent player in the squad and in my opinion, he isn’t good enough.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:34 am

People forget that, even when playing regularly before his injury, opinion was divided on him. I've not seen a run of games from him that suggest he's anything other than a player in and around the first team squad of a bottom half / bottom third PL side. Which is exactly what he is at the minute.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:39 am

thatdberight wrote:People forget that, even when playing regularly before his injury, opinion was divided on him. I've not seen a run of games from him that suggest he's anything other than a player in and around the first team squad of a bottom half / bottom third PL side. Which is exactly what he is at the minute.

Our results dipped markedly after his injury last season

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:42 am

thatdberight wrote:People forget that, even when playing regularly before his injury, opinion was divided on him. I've not seen a run of games from him that suggest he's anything other than a player in and around the first team squad of a bottom half / bottom third PL side. Which is exactly what he is at the minute.

A very accurate summary - he had a handful of excellent games prior to his injury but before that was average at best.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:38 am

Yer finds it hard to get going again , maybe trying too hard .
Needs to do the simple things , it will come i think a goal would work wonders for him

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:42 am

joey13 wrote:Our results dipped markedly after his injury last season

And we had a cracking run this season where he didn't feature.

What's your point?

Do you know what a "TEAM" is?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:20 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:And we had a cracking run this season where he didn't feature.

What's your point?

Do you know what a "TEAM" is?

He did feature
What’s your point other than you don’t rate Brady

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:33 pm

A happy footballer is a good footballer. Look at how players like Nahki Wells, Arfield, Juke and Bamford are doing in their new surroundings.

We got the best out of the Irish lads when they were all featuring in the team. Brady, Ward, Long, Waters and Hendrick were all ROI internationals when they were at their best for us. There is little or no incentive for any of them internationally now.

Defour was a big star for us at the start of last season, but I can’t help noticing that this coincided with his prospects of going to the WC with Belgium. Sadly injury put paid to that and the player has shown little inclination to get back to those levels and appears to spend a lot of his time back in his native country for “specialist” treatment.

It’s obviously a big problem for a club to keep a full playing squad happy (the wages should help) but it’s easy to see how someone who has given up his life to playing football, can struggle to maintain enthusiasm on a day to day basis when not regularly picked. And when the big chance comes along to get back, his rustiness shows and he tries too hard to impress.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:34 pm

Bad, bad injury and then some niggles.

Hopefully we will see what he showed when he was injury fee this season as we need to see it.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:49 pm

I'd be tempted to give Brady a run in the side and give McNeil a rest the next few games.

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:14 pm

jrgbfc wrote:I'd be tempted to give Brady a run in the side and give McNeil a rest the next few games.

Brady is simply not doing enough to prove a worthy starting spot in the team.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:16 pm

McNeil is the future and a bright one as well, but Brady needs to start a, he needs the game time b, McNeil needs a rest.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:17 pm

nyclaret wrote:Brady is simply not doing enough to prove a worthy starting spot in the team.

Not easy getting thrown on for 15 or 20 minutes here and there though when we're chasing a game and the only instruction is to lump it aimlessly up towards Crouch.

Gnulty · Post by **Gnulty** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:23 pm

He fell in with the wrong bunch..

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:24 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Not easy getting thrown on for 15 or 20 minutes here and there though when we're chasing a game and the only instruction is to lump it aimlessly up towards Crouch.

The simple fact is that he’s brought on to make an impact, which is he’s not doing. McNeil is better than him currently so why should Brady start?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:30 pm

nyclaret wrote:The simple fact is that he’s brought on to make an impact, which is he’s not doing. McNeil is better than him currently so why should Brady start?

McNeil is looking a bit tired I think and hasn't been great the last few games, maybe our opponents know a bit more about him as well.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:28 pm

Brady scored a great free kick on his debut and was then decidedly average for quite a while. During that time he divided opinion on here and his player ratings were often poor. He suddenly had about 5 or 6 good games and unfortunately got injured. He looks absolutely hopeless right now and when he came on at Newcastle and yesterday he offered nothing and SD would have been better off not bothering. I'm not fan of his btw, just in case you're wondering.

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:11 pm

He’s just not very good

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:16 pm

Let’s drop our most creative and in form winger for one who has been poor but with continued game time might see him return to some sort of form in the middle of a relegation battle..

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:17 pm

joey13 wrote:He’s a slow starter and needs time , arguably our most skilful player

Slow starter ? His last good game was the away victory at Bournemouth....at this rate we might see him have his next good game just before Christmas.

He’s a long way from being our most skilful player. What was the last “skilful” thing he did ?
Needs to get back to playing for the team rather than for himself - far too often he is trying to cross the ball with far too much action on the ball and he just overhits it. Given a lot of the time this is in the last few minutes when we are trying to equalise or get a winner he needs to think about the rest of the team and simply put the ball in an area where we can attack the ball....because not beating the first man or hitting it near the opposite corner flag gets us nothing.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:39 pm

warksclaret wrote:Whats happened to this guy. Been back in the squad for a few months but just looks disinterested

He was out injured as recent as two weeks ago - been a long way back for him from the Leicester game to today and still nowhere near full fitness. Disinterested? Give him a break.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:59 pm

Think he needs to regain a lot of his confidence.
A good pre-season is the need.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:45 pm

TVC15 wrote:Slow starter ? His last good game was the away victory at Bournemouth....at this rate we might see him have his next good game just before Christmas.

He’s a long way from being our most skilful player. What was the last “skilful” thing he did ?
Needs to get back to playing for the team rather than for himself - far too often he is trying to cross the ball with far too much action on the ball and he just overhits it. Given a lot of the time this is in the last few minutes when we are trying to equalise or get a winner he needs to think about the rest of the team and simply put the ball in an area where we can attack the ball....because not beating the first man or hitting it near the opposite corner flag gets us nothing.

I've got to be honest, I think the idea that Brady is playing for himself and not the team is trash to be honest. Not sure getting himself sent off at Huddersfield in an over-enthusiastic attempt to prevent a break away was an example of a player playing for himself, for example. I'd say that the symptoms you point to are more reflective of a player trying too hard than playing for himself.

In terms of doing the basics well, which I think is sort of what this is driving at - well the chance that fell to Crouch at 1-3 yesterday was an example of exactly that. Brady played the original 45 yard ball into Barnes - putting a ball into an area rather than trying to do something eye catching, and doing it well.

I think he's shown good purpose in each of his 3 cameos in the last week or so, and showed promising signs - without quite hitting his stride. As others have said, that's unfortunately something that will only come with game time.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:59 pm

claretspice wrote:I've got to be honest, I think the idea that Brady is playing for himself and not the team is trash to be honest. Not sure getting himself sent off at Huddersfield in an over-enthusiastic attempt to prevent a break away was an example of a player playing for himself, for example. I'd say that the symptoms you point to are more reflective of a player trying too hard than playing for himself.

In terms of doing the basics well, which I think is sort of what this is driving at - well the chance that fell to Crouch at 1-3 yesterday was an example of exactly that. Brady played the original 45 yard ball into Barnes - putting a ball into an area rather than trying to do something eye catching, and doing it well.

I think he's shown good purpose in each of his 3 cameos in the last week or so, and showed promising signs - without quite hitting his stride. As others have said, that's unfortunately something that will only come with game time.

If that stupid and unnecessary challenge he made at Huddersfield is an example of him playing for the team i’d rather him not thanks...it was hardly a goal scoring chance.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on whether his cameos have been any good. Personally I think he’s been poor and contributed very little productive for a long time now.
I get that he might be trying too hard but he should be experienced enough now to pick the right moments to try and cross a ball like Beckham and when he should just get the ball in. His corners - even when he was playing well are at best 1 in 5 decent.
He was pretty inconsistent before his injury - when he first joined us he was poor. Took him months to start playing well. Since his injury he has looked a shadow of the player who was having a great spell of form before the Leicester game.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:02 pm

warksclaret wrote:Whats happened to this guy. Been back in the squad for a few months but just looks disinterested

If you watch the build up to Zaha's goal (the third one), look how he loses the ball and then just watches Zaha dribble his way to scoring

Sorry guys, but Hendrick gets slaughtered regularly on this site, but he would have got stuck in at that point. We are in a dog fight and everyone should be giving 100%, particularly those pulling the highest weekly wage

Watching motd I thought exactly the same! Looks like he can't be arsed tracking back n he just let Taylor deal with Zaha, epic fail..

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:58 pm

Thanks claretdj. You are the only one who picked up my point and my OP was 8.00am this morning

All this trash about giving him time-fully accept his bad injury and recovery time and psychology about a further injuryt

But sorry when SD deems you fit to start or play, forget whether you have regained your form , you close down someone dribbling within a few yards. He stood still at that point and Zaha was allowed to dribble freely and score. He can't have been knackered as he had only been on a short while

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:14 pm

warksclaret wrote:Thanks claretdj. You are the only one who picked up my point and my OP was 8.00am this morning

All this trash about giving him time-fully accept his bad injury and recovery time and psychology about a further injuryt

But sorry when SD deems you fit to start or play, forget whether you have regained your form , you close down someone dribbling within a few yards. He stood still at that point and Zaha was allowed to dribble freely and score. He can't have been knackered as he had only been on a short while

He's a bit short of what we need at present (recovering from a very serious injury), but let's face it; there's hardly a queue of better players pushing for a start.
I'm sorry, but we are stuck with what we have,. This is the reality of BFC in the Premier League. Absolutely no point in criticising players, they are the best we can get.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:29 am

warksclaret wrote:Thanks claretdj. You are the only one who picked up my point and my OP was 8.00am this morning

All this trash about giving him time-fully accept his bad injury and recovery time and psychology about a further injuryt

But sorry when SD deems you fit to start or play, forget whether you have regained your form , you close down someone dribbling within a few yards. He stood still at that point and Zaha was allowed to dribble freely and score. He can't have been knackered as he had only been on a short while

I think there's a difference between hesitating/switching off and getting caught in no-mans land (which can be a function of a lack of match sharpness), and being disinterested, to be honest. The speed with which people jump to the assumption its the latter is a bit concerning, I think.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:36 pm

It's clearly a risk starting Brady at present but if McNeil is beginning to 'fizz out'
and needs a rest then it might be our only option.

Cross your fingers and hope for the best?

JTClaret · Post by **JTClaret** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:17 pm

He had that Burnley player issue of becoming world class whilst he was out injured.
Frustrated a lot, then played brilliantly, then got injured.

I'd be interested to see Brady and Hendrick out on the wings, with it billed up by the club of the old relationship.
A bit of positivity can do the world of good. Hendrick reminds me of Arfield on the wing and I think McNeil needs a couple of appearances from the bench for a bit of 'show 'em what you can do' type impact. It does leave me wondering what to do with Gudmunson, who at times can be our most creative player.