Shoreham aircrash verdict

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Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by conyoviejo » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:29 pm

Not guilty of manslaughter.. Got to feel sorry for the bereaved by this accident and all their families .. 8-)

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Re: Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by Corky » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:04 pm

apparently, and perhaps by mistake, but you got it right there; accident.
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Re: Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by Firthy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:04 pm

It was tragic but at the end of the day it was an accident. Although some people can't accept that accidents happen and just want someone to blame and see them punished. The only way to avoid this sort of thing is to ban everyone from doing anything.
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Re: Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by bfccrazy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:00 pm

The missus’ uncle sadly passed away a while back in an air accident as the pilot which had to be fully investigated.

Took them about a year to get all the details and investigations done and the report was finished a few days ago. Seeing how in depth it was and all the things they had to check up and find out was astounding.

If after all those investigations which no doubt would have been even more in depth, I wouldn’t argue much with the verdict that came from it.

It’s an unfortunate and rare accident which has happened and can only hope families find their own ways to get some solace.

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Re: Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by dales_claret » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:01 pm

An avoidable accident :cry:

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Re: Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by dsr » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:04 pm

dales_claret wrote:An avoidable accident :cry:
Most accidents are. How much risk is acceptable in life?

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Re: Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by bfccrazy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:16 pm

dales_claret wrote:An avoidable accident :cry:
After reading the report I did other day, that seemed avoidable too but unfortunately wasn’t avoided.

These things happen now and again.

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Re: Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by Hipper » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:40 pm

The defence case was that the pilot blacked out, or was 'cognitively impaired' as they put it, due to G forces during the flight and therefore lost control at a crucial stage, leading to the crash.

As a result, one of the victims family 'raised questions about the safety of aerobatic air displays "when there is now doubt concerning any pilot's ability to avoid becoming cognitively impaired". Another said that 'we feel that the success of Mr Hill's defence of cognitive impairment could establish a worrying precedent and have far-reaching consequences.'

Indeed, if this theory is applied properly, there will be no aerobatic displays anywhere near people, if at all, unless there is some way to identify the risk of this 'cognitive impairment'.

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Re: Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by deanothedino » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:01 pm

Hipper wrote:The defence case was that the pilot blacked out, or was 'cognitively impaired' as they put it, due to G forces during the flight and therefore lost control at a crucial stage, leading to the crash.

As a result, one of the victims family 'raised questions about the safety of aerobatic air displays "when there is now doubt concerning any pilot's ability to avoid becoming cognitively impaired". Another said that 'we feel that the success of Mr Hill's defence of cognitive impairment could establish a worrying precedent and have far-reaching consequences.'

Indeed, if this theory is applied properly, there will be no aerobatic displays anywhere near people, if at all, unless there is some way to identify the risk of this 'cognitive impairment'.
They've already significantly changed the rules for flying aerobatics, this is part of the reason that the Farnborough Airshow has removed it's public display element for last year. They basically can't do much more than a flypast there anymore due to the surroundings being residential and commercial buildings.

Aerobatics, and flying in general, will always carry a risk of accidents occurring but if you look at the safety track record they are incredibly safe.

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Re: Shoreham aircrash verdict

Post by timshorts » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:42 pm

The crash took out a couple of Worthing United players on their way to a game. I don't think the club has ever properly recovered and are now at the bottom of the second tier of the Sussex league (or whatever it is now called). Nice club to visit. They were near the bottom of Div 1 at the time, and we seemed to get to play them early in the season away from home and they always gave us a hard time. Very decent food handed out at half time, though. I hope they manage to stay up.

Whilst in that league, I see that St Francis Rangers have gone under (not such great hospitality there, but it's still a bit sad). That's probably only going to interest dpinsussex, who, of course, isn't in Sussex any more. The best memory I have of St. Francis games was Duncan McArthur jumping the pitch surround and belting off into the bushes for a waz one game.

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