Lancashire CCC Outgrounds

[NL Claret]

Sedbergh School chosen for a Lancashire county championship game. Whilst it is a stunning setting, it doesn't really have the facilities or obvious car parking (unless they use the other sports games) to host a championship game. Public transport isn't great and it is in Cumbria and part of the Yorkshire Dales.

Sounds like the county have fallen out with Southport, Liverpool not in great shape and problems with the drainage at Blackpool. Allott coming out with a poor justification for using Sedbergh, sounds more like give us a county game in exchange for a few cricket scholarships at the school.

The county is really alienating itself from its members.

[ClaretTony]

I think they are playing one at Liverpool and one at Sedbergh this season.

[claretspice]

Sedbergh School chosen for a Lancashire county championship game. Whilst it is a stunning setting, it doesn't really have the facilities or obvious car parking (unless they use the other sports games) to host a championship game. Public transport isn't great and it is in Cumbria and part of the Yorkshire Dales.

Sounds like the county have fallen out with Southport, Liverpool not in great shape and problems with the drainage at Blackpool. Allott coming out with a poor justification for using Sedbergh, sounds more like give us a county game in exchange for a few cricket scholarships at the school.

The county is really alienating itself from its members.

It's during the school holidays so there won't be a problem with parking.

I understand the point about it being in Cumbria and not that convenient, but it's not so very different to the traditional game at Colwyn Bay and there's an excellent argument for playing games in the northern reaches of Lancashire's catchment. Lancashire haven't been very good at tapping into those regions in recent times.

[NL Claret]

They must be using the school fields for parking as there isn't much parking full stop in the village / town.

Wasn't the game at Colwyn Bay an away fixture against Glamorgan though? Money spinner for Glamorgan as you can get the train from Manchester. Decent ground as well Colwyn Bay, more facilities than Sedbergh.

[claretspice]

They must be using the school fields for parking as there isn't much parking full stop in the village / town.

Wasn't the game at Colwyn Bay an away fixture against Glamorgan though? Money spinner for Glamorgan as you can get the train from Manchester. Decent ground as well Colwyn Bay, more facilities than Sedbergh.

I thought Lancashire had played out games there as home fixtures but I stand to be corrected on that one.

The school itself has plenty of hard standing that can be used for parking, aside from other playing fields and the village parking, so I doubt that will be a problem. As for public transport, pretty sure you can get a bus from Oxenholme. The facilities at Sedbergh are excellent, as good as many school grounds other counties use , and like I say Lancashire simply has to reach out away from Manchester, Liverpool and the coast. Accessibility from Manchester really isn't the be all and end all.

Ironically enough this game will be against Durham who have historically done a better job of mining the talent that Cumbria has.

[ClaretTony]

Lancs have never played home games at Colwyn Bay but again this year the away game against Glamorgan is there.

[hampsteadclaret]

Sedbergh School chosen for a Lancashire county championship game. Whilst it is a stunning setting, it doesn't really have the facilities or obvious car parking (unless they use the other sports games) to host a championship game. Public transport isn't great and it is in Cumbria and part of the Yorkshire Dales.

Sounds like the county have fallen out with Southport, Liverpool not in great shape and problems with the drainage at Blackpool. Allott coming out with a poor justification for using Sedbergh, sounds more like give us a county game in exchange for a few cricket scholarships at the school.

The county is really alienating itself from its members.

- ' sounds more like give us a county game in exchange for a few cricket scholarships at the school..'

Not sure there is much wrong with this arrangement especially as a one-off - looks like a win-win-win to me.

The village will benefit from a Lancs county match taking place, Lancs members in that part of the world will get to see some cricket, good PR for the school and obviously some ££££'s from the deal and if some cricket scholarships go to a few Lancs youngsters who would not ordinarily see such an opportunity, that looks like a good result.

Millfield and other Independent Schools have been doing this stuff for decades.

[Quickenthetempo]

Allotted got a lot of stick off members at Southport, so it looks like he's punishing them.

Twice as much rainfall over the year at Sedbergh than rainy Manchester, be lucky to get the game in.

[claretspice]

Allotted got a lot of stick off members at Southport, so it looks like he's punishing them.

Twice as much rainfall over the year at Sedbergh than rainy Manchester, be lucky to get the game in.

I'd be interested in your statistical evidence for that.

I'm surprised that the idea of taking county cricket to new audiences is met with such negativity and cynicism.

[Bordeauxclaret]

No real problems with it as long as they sort the transport out etc.
Games at the out grounds tend to be more popular, I hope they get some decent weather and make a good fist of it.

It’s a shame no Lancs League grounds are even close to meeting the standards.
Yorkshire play a few second team games at Tod but you couldn’t imagine it staging any first team games.

[NL Claret]

Allotted got a lot of stick off members at Southport, so it looks like he's punishing them.

Twice as much rainfall over the year at Sedbergh than rainy Manchester, be lucky to get the game in.

Allott said something along the lines of Southport don't have a full time groundsman although they will tell you otherwise.

[deanothedino]

Sedbergh School chosen for a Lancashire county championship game. Whilst it is a stunning setting, it doesn't really have the facilities or obvious car parking (unless they use the other sports games) to host a championship game. Public transport isn't great and it is in Cumbria and part of the Yorkshire Dales.

Sounds like the county have fallen out with Southport, Liverpool not in great shape and problems with the drainage at Blackpool. Allott coming out with a poor justification for using Sedbergh, sounds more like give us a county game in exchange for a few cricket scholarships at the school.

The county is really alienating itself from its members.

It's actually in Yorkshire if you ignore the modern monstrosity that is Cumbria.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

To be fair it does look a fantastic setting only rivalled only by the Worwick Memorial Ground ! Southport are carrying out a lot of work I read hoping to get Lancashire games next year.

Colwyn Bay definitely one of Glamorgan’s outgrounds.

[claretspice]

It is an absolutely superb setting. There won't be a more picturesque setting for a county match anywhere next season.

[jrgbfc]

Bit of a shame it starts on a Sunday rather than Saturday. I'll be tempted to have a drive up if on the Sunday if it's dry.

[NL Claret]

- ' sounds more like give us a county game in exchange for a few cricket scholarships at the school..'

Not sure there is much wrong with this arrangement especially as a one-off - looks like a win-win-win to me.

The village will benefit from a Lancs county match taking place, Lancs members in that part of the world will get to see some cricket, good PR for the school and obviously some ££££'s from the deal and if some cricket scholarships go to a few Lancs youngsters who would not ordinarily see such an opportunity, that looks like a good result.

Millfield and other Independent Schools have been doing this stuff for decades.

I totally get why they are doing it and see the benefits, that's not my point. If it is a scholarship deal with Sedbergh why not come and say it it is the reason for doing it. The membership at Lancs has plummeted over recent years.

[hampsteadclaret]

16..I would tentatively suggest that Lancs membership numbers have dropped because generally we haven't been very good at cricket for a number of years..[or rather we haven't won much]..

[Quickenthetempo]

I'd be interested in your statistical evidence for that.

I'm surprised that the idea of taking county cricket to new audiences is met with such negativity and cynicism.

Posted on the Lancs Action Group twitter page.

I suppose it makes sense the nearer you go to the lake district, the more water.

[NL Claret]

16..I would tentatively suggest that Lancs membership numbers have dropped because generally we haven't been very good at cricket for a number of years..[or rather we haven't won much]..

There's more to it than just the results / success. Have you been to "The Emirates" recently?

[hampsteadclaret]

Yes I have.

They are a large under-performing club who play some PL fixtures with plenty of empty seats at kick-off, [though the seat has been sold] and many more empty after 75 minutes, especially when things aren't going well.

Fans voting with their feet, a concept that has been around a while.

[deanothedino]

Posted on the Lancs Action Group twitter page.

I suppose it makes sense the nearer you go to the lake district, the more water.

Sedbergh gets twice the national average of rain. It’s pretty wet.

[NL Claret]

It's during the school holidays so there won't be a problem with parking.

I understand the point about it being in Cumbria and not that convenient, but it's not so very different to the traditional game at Colwyn Bay and there's an excellent argument for playing games in the northern reaches of Lancashire's catchment. Lancashire haven't been very good at tapping into those regions in recent times.

Crikey Spice, you haven't got much right with this post. Game starts 30th June, school breaks up 6th July.

[dsr]

Allotted got a lot of stick off members at Southport, so it looks like he's punishing them.

Twice as much rainfall over the year at Sedbergh than rainy Manchester, be lucky to get the game in.

Rainfall in Sedbergh, May to August: 69mm - 77mm - 80mm - 102mm - total 328mm
Rainfall in Manchester, May to August: 64mm - 71mm - 72mm - 89mm - total 296mm.

So Sedberg gets about 111% of the rainfall in Manchester, not 200%. If that makes a difference.

[nighty]

what do you expect when part of the club is run by flixton claret , you couldnt make it up , sedbergh is not in lancashire ...........over to you flixton, answers needed