Manny Rd Spoons up for sale

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:50 am

As well as 15 more.

Is two in the town too many?
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basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:58 am

2 probably is too many. Years ago they opened in Nelson but that was one of a few they closed. Wrong town.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:09 am

Theyre making a wrong decision

That is the perfect place for fans coming from train, people getting the bus to manc, people waiting to go on weekends away and day trips etc

The boot is being preferred due to its beer garden.

No doubt some 1 else will take it on

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:25 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Theyre making a wrong decision

That is the perfect place for fans coming from train, people getting the bus to manc, people waiting to go on weekends away and day trips etc

The boot is being preferred due to its beer garden.

No doubt some 1 else will take it on

Agreed but The Park View should fill the gap.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:26 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Theyre making a wrong decision

That is the perfect place for fans coming from train, people getting the bus to manc, people waiting to go on weekends away and day trips etc

The boot is being preferred due to its beer garden.

No doubt some 1 else will take it on

Agreed but The Park View should fill the gap.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:38 am

basil6345789 wrote:Agreed but The Park View should fill the gap.

Why would you get off the train and walk to Park View?

I think that the later hours and changes in youngsters drinking habits have made Spoons a bit redundant now. We used to meet up and do a certain route which covered most of town for a drink ..... these days, this side of town is ignored or closed by the time that most youngsters get into town.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:39 am

basil6345789 wrote:Agreed but The Park View should fill the gap.

Park views being flattened isnt it?

Heard all the infrastructure has been cleaned out by thieves

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:40 am

bfccrazy wrote:Why would you get off the train and walk to Park View?

I think that the later hours and changes in youngsters drinking habits have made Spoons a bit redundant now. We used to meet up and do a certain route which covered most of town for a drink ..... these days, this side of town is ignored or closed by the time that most youngsters get into town.

I thought the youngsters went there for a 8am brekky instead of the traditional kebab after a night out these days.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:41 am

Could work as a buffet type place

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:41 am

bfccrazy wrote:Why would you get off the train and walk to Park View?

I think that the later hours and changes in youngsters drinking habits have made Spoons a bit redundant now. We used to meet up and do a certain route which covered most of town for a drink ..... these days, this side of town is ignored or closed by the time that most youngsters get into town.

Quite busy at 9am last friday. Group of 20 lads waiting for a wkend trip to begin

20 x brekkies
60 x pints

Thats 1 group

Making a big mistake

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:44 am

Hard to see anyone wanting to take on a pub in Burnley town centre these days with the way the nightlife in town has deteriorated. Might end up with another poncey cocktail bar like Illuminati the way things are these days.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:46 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Quite busy at 9am last friday. Group of 20 lads waiting for a wkend trip to begin

20 x brekkies
60 x pints

Thats 1 group

Making a big mistake

We always met there or bus station going right back to the minibuses to Maximes etc ...

I was out for 1st time in about 2 years a few weeks ago and just couldn’t wait to get home .... Same music played from when we were going out ... and then went into Panamas and saw air max tracksuits everywhere

nothing against tracksuits but at 1am on a night out was weird.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:47 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:I thought the youngsters went there for a 8am brekky instead of the traditional kebab after a night out these days.

They don’t really like those people going in anymore ..... my mate lived in the flats across from there and it was always fun seeing the hoardes walking down Manny Rd like some apocalypse.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:49 am

We were in that spoons once just after 8am for an early kick off and there was a couple in there who had got married the day before and then got hammered in town and ended up in spoons for breakfast.

You could tell they had got wed the previous day as she was in her wedding dress and he was suited up. It is a special place

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:51 am

Can anyone remember what the building was before it was Spoons?

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:59 am

bfccrazy wrote:They don’t really like those people going in anymore ..... my mate lived in the flats across from there and it was always fun seeing the hoardes walking down Manny Rd like some apocalypse.

They dont serve em we a stamp on their hands

mealdeal · Post by **mealdeal** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:02 pm

Being sold due to no one being able to decide whether its 'walking distance' from the town centre.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:03 pm

Falcon wrote:Can anyone remember what the building was before it was Spoons?

Many years ago it was Burnley Computer Centre but can’t remember what/if it was after that

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:06 pm

bfccrazy wrote:We always met there or bus station going right back to the minibuses to Maximes etc ...

I was out for 1st time in about 2 years a few weeks ago and just couldn’t wait to get home .... Same music played from when we were going out ... and then went into Panamas and saw air max tracksuits everywhere nothing against tracksuits but at 1am on a night out was weird.

I know right! All dressed for the gym. What happened to making an effort!

Went out in town on the 27th December, was dead until about 10. Went in at least three places and were the only ones in there!

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:06 pm

Rawtenstall needs a Spoons, about time they turned the old cinema into one. Ideal spot across from the new bus station.
All well and good with these new bars selling real ale but a good pub is needed that serves up some food too.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:09 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Many years ago it was Burnley Computer Centre but can’t remember what/if it was after that

Just asked someone at work who say it was Royal insurance

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:20 pm

Aclaret wrote:Rawtenstall needs a Spoons, about time they turned the old cinema into one. Ideal spot across from the new bus station.
All well and good with these new bars selling real ale but a good pub is needed that serves up some food too.

I heard a rumour that they were actually planning on buying the old cinema but it was quite a while ago so i presume it wasn't true/fell through

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:30 pm

It will be an expensive purchase with big business rates etc.

If Spoons can't make a go of it then I don't think another landlord could.

What else could it be used for?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:33 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Quite busy at 9am last friday. Group of 20 lads waiting for a wkend trip to begin

20 x brekkies
60 x pints

Thats 1 group

Making a big mistake

Aye i’m sure they haven’t bothered checking the profitability of the pub before deciding to sell.
Probably just decided which pubs to close randomly or out of a hat (or baseball cap !)

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:45 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:I heard a rumour that they were actually planning on buying the old cinema but it was quite a while ago so i presume it wasn't true/fell through

Yep believe they were priced out. Heard they were looking at the Queens as a possibility. That end of Rawtenstall near the old cinema needs sorting out.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:47 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Making a big mistake

I'm sure Spoons highy paid accountants don't think so.

Its days as a pub are over. The building would make a decent restaurant and I mean something with a USP (for the town centre) that could drive the punters in, rather than another average curry house.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:08 pm

Whilst the nightlife appears to have gone down the swanny, the restaurant business seems to be doing well at the moment. I've been to Palazzo and Carnivoro a few times each and always have been rammed.

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:26 pm

Falcon wrote:Can anyone remember what the building was before it was Spoons?

yep wasn't it burnley computer centre or something with owned by well known local "entrepreneur" and wild west enthusiast stephen knackers. Think phil, flange and paul of P3 fame worked there as well?

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:26 pm

shame

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:29 pm

Where will Ben Mee go after the End Of Season Awards?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:42 pm

Nooooooooooooooo, always excellent in there for a breakfast before an early kick off as well as being on the where to get a decent pint circuit. I'd blame Brexit but Tim Martin won't have it.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:00 pm

It'll put a hell of a lot of pressure onto The Boot, especially on match days.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:00 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:As well as 15 more.

Is two in the town too many?
https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Art ... _UsPv13q4s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The link doesn’t work QTT.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:08 pm

I was in there on a Friday night a few weeks back and it was really quiet. Blame it on the young uns who either don't go out anymore or drink at home till midnight then go out. The council allowing places like Mode and Blu Bar to stay open till 8 o clock in the morning have also helped kill off Burnley's nightlife.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:59 pm

South West Claret. wrote:The link doesn’t work QTT.

Strange, it still works for me.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:12 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Strange, it still works for me.

Tried it again and it does work now.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:27 pm

It’s a commercial decision relative to the sales in their other pubs being the reason that all these pubs are up for sale and little else.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:54 pm

Their pubs have individual operating margins. They aren't measured across the JDW estate. It would be folly to do so because there are so many variables at play.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:54 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:Their pubs have individual operating margins. They aren't measured across the JDW estate. It would be folly to do so because there are so many variables at play.

I don’t disagree but Timmy boy does get Around his pubs as you may know, so I might ask him when i see him again if he’s been to Burnley himself.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:27 am

Property
During the period, we opened two new pubs and closed six, bringing the number open at the period end to 879. Following a review of our estate, in recent years, we placed around 100 pubs on the market, most of which have now been sold.

A quote from this mornings Preliminary Results.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:50 am

Falcon wrote:Can anyone remember what the building was before it was Spoons?

Definitely Burnley Computer Centre before Spoons - BCC moved to Network 65 and became Lanway

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:33 am

Profits down 19% in the 6 months to January.

Business model is struggling

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:40 am

Loads of businesses struggling - scaremongering Remainers talking everything down and so people spending less.
On the business model how many closing are Spoons versus Lloyds? Not analysed the list.
Tim will steer a steady course through it.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:33 pm

basil6345789 wrote:Loads of businesses struggling - scaremongering Remainers talking everything down and so people spending less.
On the business model how many closing are Spoons versus Lloyds? Not analysed the list.
Tim will steer a steady course through it.

Think I've found Tim's UTC username