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Volkswagen

Post by Blackrod » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:37 pm

VW boss makes a nazi gaffe. Considering the company’s foundation stone was laid by Hitler and manufactured German army vehicles using slave labour from camps, along with V1 rockets, it’s disgraceful. Should this company have been allowed to continue under the Volkswagen banner?

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:39 pm

A re-branded Nazi is still a Nazi

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:39 pm

So what did he do??

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by cbx750 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:53 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:So what did he do??


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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:38 pm

Anyone who buys a Volkswagen, Audi, Seat or Skoda is complicit, and is a Nazi .... ;)

Still haven't stumped up a penny in compensation to the UK Government to help combat the diesel emissions that their cheating management imposed on us, but report $10bn or so profits for this year ...

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:40 pm

Oppps.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by thatdberight » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:42 pm

Ill-judged but you've got to remember that "Arbeit macht Frei" is in itself a twist on another phrase and he may equally have been harking back to that.

I'm more worried he forgot the old saying, "Umsatz ist Eitelkeit, Gewinn ist vernünftig, aber Bargeld ist Realität"
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Re: Volkswagen

Post by basil6345789 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:39 pm

Nazi fokkers.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Bosscat » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:49 pm

thatdberight wrote:"Umsatz ist Eitelkeit, Gewinn ist vernünftig, aber Bargeld ist Realität"
Surely that was for a different thread .... contactless payments v Cash is king ;) on the concourse
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Re: Volkswagen

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:15 pm

Reading that link I see they're cutting 7k jobs due to switching to the manufacturing of electric vehicles.

Food for thought.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Vino blanco » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 pm

VW to get rid of 7,000 jobs: bloody Brexit eh?

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:20 pm

Vino blanco wrote:VW to get rid of 7,000 jobs: bloody Brexit eh?
I nearly made a similar joke :lol:

Just shows how the industry is changing everywhere, but hey ho.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:42 pm

thatdberight wrote:Ill-judged but you've got to remember that "Arbeit macht Frei" is in itself a twist on another phrase and he may equally have been harking back to that.

I'm more worried he forgot the old saying, "Umsatz ist Eitelkeit, Gewinn ist vernünftig, aber Bargeld ist Realität"
Roughly translated as, " Sales are for vanity, profits are for sanity and cash is king " ....

Or as they probably still say in the motor trade, " Any fool can give cars away or sell at a loss, try and keep your margin in the metal, and try and direct a cash customer to overage stock and shift that, if you can ! " :D

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Belial » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:10 pm

Clarets4me wrote:Anyone who buys a Volkswagen, Audi, Seat or Skoda is complicit, and is a Nazi .... ;)

Still haven't stumped up a penny in compensation to the UK Government to help combat the diesel emissions that their cheating management imposed on us, but report $10bn or so profits for this year ...
It's not necessarily that they haven't stumped up, it's because the Government haven't pushed it. Besides, there were a lot more than just VW up to no good

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:34 am

Belial wrote:It's not necessarily that they haven't stumped up, it's because the Government haven't pushed it. Besides, there were a lot more than just VW up to no good
BMW (Barvarian Motor Works) originally made planes and their symbol represents a moving propeller.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:49 pm

The Quandt family in Germany still own a major shareholding in BMW and are still actively involved in its operations. The founder of the Quandt industrial dynasty, Gunther Quandt, was a member of the Nazi party after it came to power. His companies, including BMW, used slave labour including many of the inmates from Dachau. Gunther's second wife, Magda, divorced him and became a certain Magda Goebbels: I wonder whatever happened to her?

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:54 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:BMW (Barvarian Motor Works) originally made planes and their symbol represents a moving propeller.
Isn’t the propellor Mercedes? BMW are the blue & white quarters which are taken from the Bavaria flag.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:58 pm

The Blue and White quarters are indeed the basis of the Bavarian flag. BMW started producing air craft engines before cars and this idea that the logo represents a propeller is not confirmed by the BMW company. The first car they made was an Austin 7 under licence from the English car maker.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:01 pm

The Mercedes logo is not a propeller, it is a three pointed star to indicate the company could dominate in all engineering domains of land, sea and air.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by claret59 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:33 pm

On the subject of slave labour during WW2 how on earth did Albert Speer avoid the noose and go on to be fated and welcomed in the TV studios of the UK? Similarly the Nazi rocket makers who used thousands of slave workers in building the V1's and V2's went on to live lives of luxury in the US.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Claret Till I Die » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:51 pm

Clarets4me wrote:Anyone who buys a Volkswagen, Audi, Seat or Skoda is complicit, and is a Nazi .... ;)

Still haven't stumped up a penny in compensation to the UK Government to help combat the diesel emissions that their cheating management imposed on us, but report $10bn or so profits for this year ...
A little like the Clarets who seem to ignore the 500mile club people who gave when they needed it most

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:56 pm

claret59 wrote:On the subject of slave labour during WW2 how on earth did Albert Speer avoid the noose and go on to be fated and welcomed in the TV studios of the UK? Similarly the Nazi rocket makers who used thousands of slave workers in building the V1's and V2's went on to live lives of luxury in the US.
The rocket makers went to work for the Americans thanks to operation Paperclip and helped get man to the moon originally, including on particular nasty nazi who apparently became a director of NASA's Space Flight Centre.

The Nazi scientists were well ahead of the Americans in many areas, including weapons, so that's why they were well rewarded for their work in the US

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:38 pm

The Dr. Strangelove character was loosely based on Wernher von Braun.

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Re: Volkswagen

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:57 pm

The Nazi scientists weren't ahead of the Americans when it came to producing atomic bombs.

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