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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:49 pm

We really are a poor side.
TBH we've been rewarding failure and poor performance far too long.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:55 pm

When we came up I commented how well we had done to fill the side with experienced players who had promotions to their name, Shackell, Wallace, Jones,etc., and young hungry players, Ings, Trippier, Mee.
We now have a side of championship players. Nearly all have relegation on their cv and Brady is a master at it, 3 times if we go.
I’ll not say we are down until the figures prove it but something has to change.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by claretnproud » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:55 pm

burnley007 wrote:A blinkered keyboard warrior.
Excellent stuff mate
blinkered ? thats rich coming from you who thinks we are nailed on to go down. No it aint pretty but it doesnt mean you have to creact a clearly ridiculous thread. Have a word with yourself man.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:55 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:£30m spent on bench players
Wasted not spent !!!

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:57 pm

bumba wrote:It wasn't the board that played those tactics or made those substitutions today.
Today was all Dyches fault. Bringing his mate Crouch on was laughable Morgan can't run get Vydra running running behind him instead for last 20 minutes.
Too play long ball in that weather is a joke.
8 decent games in over a year isn't a good manager
Dyche gets out coached almost every match. The other side make changes that affect the game, we just make changes. Usually to late and ineffective.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:57 pm

Imagine being Vydra. He must be utterly bemused. Gets 2 minutes a game max and sits on bench watching Peter freaking Crouch . Bet he cant wait to get the hell out of Burnley. Dyche has clearly lost the plot

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by ArmchairDetective » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:58 pm

We played well and were a bit unfortunate. Not 'hopeless', 'devoid of ideas' or 'pathetic'.

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Post by Wembley09 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:03 pm

We played as well as you can expect for a squad of our quality.
Leicester are by far better on paper, and sometimes that's the way it proves.

Strange about Vydra though, all that money we spent on him and he's hardly featured. Even being overlooked by the static 38 year old Crouch today says a lot.

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Post by exilecanada » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:13 pm

Very depressing loss! The fat lady is warming up her vocal chords.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Paddy1882 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pm

Some days Tottenham at home being a perfect example i love the fact we play more direct. Today.... lashing down and blowing a gale, making every ball hold up in the wind or change direction etc.... keep it on the floor and pass the ball. Got it wrong today but need to move on quickly

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Post by nyclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:16 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:We played well and were a bit unfortunate. Not 'hopeless', 'devoid of ideas' or 'pathetic'.
:lol: :lol:
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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by burnley007 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:19 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:We played well and were a bit unfortunate. Not 'hopeless', 'devoid of ideas' or 'pathetic'.

Wow

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:23 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:Dyche gets out coached almost every match. The other side make changes that affect the game, we just make changes. Usually to late and ineffective.
We played against 10 men for over 90 minutes,today was very embarrassing

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:24 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:We played well and were a bit unfortunate. Not 'hopeless', 'devoid of ideas' or 'pathetic'.
jeez you aren't much of a detective

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:24 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:We played well and were a bit unfortunate. Not 'hopeless', 'devoid of ideas' or 'pathetic'.
Stick to detecting armchairs :lol:
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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by ArmchairDetective » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:jeez you aren't much of a detective
There was plenty of hope until the 90th minute. We dominated much of the game. Losing is depressing, but it's not the end of the world.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by SGr » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:27 pm

Burnley vs Cardiff is shaping up to be the biggest game in a long time. The absolute definition of “must win”.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Foulthrow » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:28 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:Some days Tottenham at home being a perfect example i love the fact we play more direct. Today.... lashing down and blowing a gale, making every ball hold up in the wind or change direction etc.... keep it on the floor and pass the ball. Got it wrong today but need to move on quickly
The only time we kept on the ground we scored.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by burnley007 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:28 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:There was plenty of hope until the 90th minute. We dominated much of the game. Losing is depressing, but it's not the end of the world.
Are you one of those people who say 'It's only a game'?

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:28 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:There was plenty of hope until the 90th minute. We dominated much of the game. Losing is depressing, but it's not the end of the world.
nothing football related is the end of the world, that's no reason for me not to be furious at our manager and his lack of tactical ********

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:34 pm

NickBFC wrote:We have become stale, predictable and the things we were so good at last season, have gone. We're conceding soft, sloppy, late and goals at critical times. It's difficult to see where we'll pick up the, probably, required two more wins to stay up on current form. Very disappointed tonight.
Exactly right.
Knock it high into the area,
Wood offside.
Knock it high into the area,
Wood offside.
Repeat & repeat again.
Bring on Crouchy,
Hit it higher.
Repeat.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Right_winger » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:39 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:We played well and were a bit unfortunate. Not 'hopeless', 'devoid of ideas' or 'pathetic'.
Wow to come up with this I have decided that you are;

a) very drunk
b) on drugs
c) Sean Dyche
d) a professional happy clapper
e) all of the above
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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:42 pm

They lost one of the best centre backs in the division after 3 minutes, then substituted one of their most creative players for an ageing slow defender, and we did the square root of f##k all to exploit this huge advantage.
We deserve to go down given such inept management.
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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Paddy1882 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:47 pm

Foulthrow wrote:The only time we kept on the ground we scored.
Exactly. The tactics from the 4th minute should have been to move the ball from one side of the pitch to the other, keep the ball and keep them chasing looking for the gaps that will appear as they tire especially 60mins onwards... not leather it to the head of Morgan for 86 minutes

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by scouseclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:28 pm

I’m not one of the Dyche Out lot (whom I seem to remember were queuing up to apologise a few weeks ago) but I am finding his attitude to substitutions incredibly frustrating.

Wood and Barnes were terrible today - as they have been for the last few games - and yet when he makes the change he changed nothing. Dyche signed Vydra, and for me Vydra has shown he can change games on the rare occasions he’s been used. Why not give him 30 mins rather than 3?

As for Crouch, the swap with Vokes in January was a cynical exercise in bringing in another £10m which won’t help keep us up. He brings nothing to the party.

Really worried after today.

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Post by scouseclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:32 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:Exactly. The tactics from the 4th minute should have been to move the ball from one side of the pitch to the other, keep the ball and keep them chasing looking for the gaps that will appear as they tire especially 60mins onwards... not leather it to the head of Morgan for 86 minutes
Disagree. I think we did move the ball from side to side and try to stretch them a bit. It was the total lack of quality in and around the box that cost us.
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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Longsidebogs » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:41 pm

Whatever league we are in next season Dyche needs to go. One trick pony has been found out. New ideas required.
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Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:51 pm

And only three weeks ago people on this board were moist with giddy excitement as we were on a roll , Dyche was a god amongst men and

We’ll stay up just about but the squad needs a good clearing out . People still don’t get it that apart from Heaton and Tarky ( and maybe McNeil for the future ) no one in our squad would get anywhere near a prem starting XI. Dyche has wrung every last drop from this squad of championship journeymen and it’s a job I don’t believe any other prem manager could have done
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Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:53 pm

And only three weeks ago people on this board were moist with giddy excitement as we were on a roll , Dyche was a god amongst men and people were openly apologising for slagging him off.

We’ll stay up just about but the squad needs a good clearing out . People still don’t get it that apart from Heaton and Tarky ( and maybe McNeil for the future ) no one in our squad would get anywhere near a prem starting XI. Dyche has wrung every last drop from this squad of championship journeymen and it’s a job I don’t believe any other prem manager could have done

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by bumba » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:56 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:And only three weeks ago people on this board were moist with giddy excitement as we were on a roll , Dyche was a god amongst men and

We’ll stay up just about but the squad needs a good clearing out . People still don’t get it that apart from Heaton and Tarky ( and maybe McNeil for the future ) no one in our squad would get anywhere near a prem starting XI. Dyche has wrung every last drop from this squad of championship journeymen and it’s a job I don’t believe any other prem manager could have done
Warnock would get the same if not more from this team.
Ward, Brady, Gibson, Vydra, Hart, Westwood, Cork, Wood, Crouch, Bardsley, Walters off the top of my head had all played premier league football an most international football before we signed them so no excuses to say they aren't good enough.
Dyche signed them it's dyche's tactics that's killing them then his shocking use of subs
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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:57 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:And only three weeks ago people on this board were moist with giddy excitement as we were on a roll , Dyche was a god amongst men and people were openly apologising for slagging him off.

We’ll stay up just about but the squad needs a good clearing out . People still don’t get it that apart from Heaton and Tarky ( and maybe McNeil for the future ) no one in our squad would get anywhere near a prem starting XI. Dyche has wrung every last drop from this squad of championship journeymen and it’s a job I don’t believe any other prem manager could have done
To be fair, he signed most of them

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Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:03 pm

He did indeed with chump change at this level . If we stay up the board need to dig deep simple as that

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by buzzclarets79 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:38 pm

SD is going no where, the board don’t have the balls to get rid so if we stay up or drop into the championship we have at least another 12 months of SD min.
If we stay up all we will hear over the summer is how hard it is to get the right players in, the same as last window and the window before that. Anyone that thinks all of a sudden we are going to bring in 7/8 players is delusional.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:42 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote:SD is going no where, the board don’t have the balls to get rid so if we stay up or drop into the championship we have at least another 12 months of SD min.
If we stay up all we will hear over the summer is how hard it is to get the right players in, the same as last window and the window before that. Anyone that thinks all of a sudden we are going to bring in 7/8 players is delusional.

that line will be thrown out no matter what division we are in and always will be whilst we have our current board, that's not a criticism just a fact

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Post by Royboyclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:55 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:But what about the bumper profit ?
Tell you what, randomclaret, if we're in this same sorry mess when the accounts are revealed in three weeks time, this forum will explode. And rightly so.
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Post by Pstotto » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:19 pm

I take a bit of my critique back. We would have been 1-0 up after 4 mins. If Maguire hadn't done our player. If it's like that it should be a penalty wherever. That would have changed everything.

We should have had another penalty to make it 2-1 to us.

Heaton froze for their winning goal.

Pope back, I think.

We were cheated out of a win and that has a psychological affect on the team and fans and mojo.
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Post by Vino blanco » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:25 pm

Don't worry, we have a new Director of Football to sort it all out.b

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:39 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote:We are stuck with SD, get used to it. There is no way the board will get rid, even if we do go down. We’ve at least another season of this.....get used to it.
If we do go down, why on earth would we ask him to leave?

We would need to ask him to stay.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by South West Claret. » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:50 pm

burnley007 wrote:We look desperate, hopeless and totally devoid of any ideas.
We look the pure definition of a relegation side.

Ok I only saw the highlights tonight but I didn’t think we looked to bad at all going forward it’s the defending that needs sorting out.

I’m not comfortable with Taylor’s defending at all so time to get Ward back pronto!

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Post by Uwe Noble » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:56 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:We played well and were a bit unfortunate. Not 'hopeless', 'devoid of ideas' or 'pathetic'.
Thank you for a fair comment. I thought we were unlucky today. I cannot believe some of the headless chickens on this board.

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Post by Murger » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:00 am

Uwe Noble wrote:Thank you for a fair comment. I thought we were unlucky today. I cannot believe some of the headless chickens on this board.
Unlucky? Wow.

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Post by nyclaret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:06 am

South West Claret. wrote:Ok I only saw the highlights tonight but I didn’t think we looked to bad at all going forward it’s the defending that needs sorting out.

I’m not comfortable with Taylor’s defending at all so time to get Ward back pronto!
So let me get this right... you want to replace our most in-form player (alongside McNeil) with Stephen Ward, a player who has played 230 minutes of Premier League football all season? Ok...

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:25 am

What's that saying ? the definition of madness is doing the same thing but expecting a different outcome !!!

it's not down to effort they are walking off the pitch shattered..


Mr Dyche we need to change it up and fast..

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Post by taio » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:34 am

South West Claret. wrote:Ok I only saw the highlights tonight but I didn’t think we looked to bad at all going forward it’s the defending that needs sorting out.

I’m not comfortable with Taylor’s defending at all so time to get Ward back pronto!
Our best player yesterday. He was fine defensively and even better going forward.

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Re: Relegation is imminent

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:07 am

Dyche has done so much for us and I do think we’ll finish above Cardiff, but I cannot believe how much we have regressed this season. The football is unbelievably primitive. I bet Leicester (Morgan in particular) couldn’t believe their luck.

We had a striker on the bench precisely suited for games like these and he ignores him and brings on a 38 year old novelty act who couldn’t get a game for a dreadful Stoke side. Who just encourages even more aimless launches ‘into the mixer’. And to have one shot on target in the second half (from Vydra, in one of his allotted three minutes) against 10 men is utterly indefensible. A damaging day for us and Dyche yesterday.

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Post by bumba » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:45 am

Uwe Noble wrote:Thank you for a fair comment. I thought we were unlucky today. I cannot believe some of the headless chickens on this board.
Unlucky? We were hopeless and clueless! Played 90 minutes against 10 men an for the first 45 they controlled the game we are that bad.
It's a relegation fight we should of took the game to them after the 4th minute an dominated til the 94th!
Would of been at least 5 clear by Cardiff its out of our hands now I'm embarrassed by what we showed yesterday and by this season

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Post by Jimmymaccer » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:00 am

They just put up two banks of four yesterday, and we have no pace (or flair) to get round them. We resort to hoof ball, and in the knowledge we’ll bring on the tall one, they bring on Morgan who will win everything in the air. Sod all shots going in, passes side to side..........

Job done. Gibson, Vydra must wonder what the hells going on, big Sam Vokes made a run for the exit.

A better team would have murdered Leicester yesterday.........good job they only had 10 men as they were probably yet another team who came to just hit us on the break........and win.

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Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:07 am

Uwe Noble wrote:Thank you for a fair comment. I thought we were unlucky today. I cannot believe some of the headless chickens on this board.
Unlucky :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, you’re being serious! :shock: :?

Admit it, we were crap playing the same old long balls time after time. The rare occasion we ran with it at pace, creating overlaps, and put crosses in, were the only times we actually looked decent.
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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:17 am

bumba wrote:Unlucky? We were hopeless and clueless! Played 90 minutes against 10 men an for the first 45 they controlled the game we are that bad.
It's a relegation fight we should of took the game to them after the 4th minute an dominated til the 94th!
Would of been at least 5 clear by Cardiff its out of our hands now I'm embarrassed by what we showed yesterday and by this season
It isn't out of our hands.

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:38 am

Vegas Claret wrote:nothing football related is the end of the world, that's no reason for me not to be furious at our manager and his lack of tactical ********
Absolutely. I’m not questioning your rights. I just don’t necessarily agree with the completely over the top reaction of some people on here after a performance that was maybe underwhelming but not that bad against a pretty decent side.
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