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Leave or Remain

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:55 pm

Will Dyche Leave us at the end of this season what ever happens,took us as far as possible and I think it needs freshening up,what you reckon Leave or remain

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:56 pm

He's been great for us and has given me and lots of others great memories but I've had enough.
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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:58 pm

I thought the question was going to be before the International break.
I've always supported him, but today was pretty indefensible.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by burnleymik » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:01 pm

It's a tough one because if we stay up he will have done his job and if we are relegated I doubt there will be anyone in a better position to get us back up. He has a shedload of credit in the bank, but I do agree that some of these performances have been poor and it's his inability to change things when needed that seems to frustrate most people.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Leyland Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:03 pm

He had loads of credit in the bank for what he’s done for our club but he is now into his overdraft so a change is now required.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by DCWat » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:03 pm

If there’s a person at our club who deserves to be in control of such a decision, it’s Dyche.

This season has been riddled with mistakes, Dyche included but he’s enough credit to show he has learned. Hopefully the recruitment begins to improve in the summer, as a starter for ten and from there, the style becomes a little more pleasing on the eye.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Safron » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:05 pm

Definite leave and take that useless money pinching woam with you goodbye

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:06 pm

DCWat wrote:If there’s a person at our club who deserves to be in control of such a decision, it’s Dyche.

This season has been riddled with mistakes, Dyche included but he’s enough credit to show he has learned. Hopefully the recruitment begins to improve in the summer, as a starter for ten and from there, the style becomes a little more pleasing on the eye.
That is why I think Dyche will walk away at the end of the season,he's running out of credit and ruining a fantastic legacy.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:06 pm

Hasn't he got 4 years left of a 5 year deal worth in excess of £3million a year?

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by DCWat » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:06 pm

Safron wrote:Definite leave and take that useless money pinching woam with you goodbye
Why is he money pinching? I know little about him and wonder how you’ve arrived at such an opinion?

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:07 pm

I just want to see us try and play decent football, I couldn't care less who the manager is that makes us do that

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Claretuk » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:10 pm

Leave or Remain? I'm having this thought @ the moment on next season's renewal of season ticket! @ the moment I'm leave n if I feel the same Monday morning I'm sending email to cancel.. absolutely shocking performance today from the boys n dyche.. :(

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by DCWat » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:11 pm

Steve1956 wrote:That is why I think Dyche will walk away at the end of the season,he's running out of credit and ruining a fantastic legacy.
I’m not sure he is ruining his legacy. I think he will still think he can push us on further and that recruitment is the next step in that process.

If he leaves us with a good scouting network, recruitment team, academy and new training facilities, it’s some legacy and one we will benefit from, for years to come.

I hope he’s not finished his journey with us yet, although must admit I was hugely disappointed with his approach today.
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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:13 pm

DCWat wrote:Why is he money pinching? I know little about him and wonder how you’ve arrived at such an opinion?
I wondered that ...it Woan's fault now :lol:
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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by SGr » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:13 pm

Who’s taking him? That’s what may keep him here. Probably still the best available option for a return anyway - exceptional championship record.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Right_winger » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:13 pm

I’d like him to leave but feel he will remain. No doubt all the scaremongering will come out telling us that leave is a fantasy and unworkable but I feel the long term future is better off without the restrictive framework.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:13 pm

Steve1956 wrote:That is why I think Dyche will walk away at the end of the season,he's running out of credit and ruining a fantastic legacy.
Not a chance in hell of Dyche walking away from his 3.5 million quid a year deal! Can't see anyone else coming in for him either so think he'll be with us for a while yet.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:16 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Not a chance in hell of Dyche walking away from his 3.5 million quid a year deal! Can't see anyone else coming in for him either so think he'll be with us for a while yet.
Quite a lot of water to flow under the bridge before the end of the season,lose at home to Cardiff and it will get toxic.....time will tell it's going to be some ride.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Safron » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:20 pm

It's not just dyche in charge it's a management team ,it's just dyche who fronts the club ,I watch the 3 of them on the touchline and it's like watching the 3 f##kin stooges ,shall we sharnt we ,what would you do ,I don't know what would you do,f##kin embarrassing

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:20 pm

nothing lasts forever and nor should it. History is exactly that

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Top Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:21 pm

If we stay up he stays. If we get relegated he goes.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:25 pm

Best manager we have ever had, you lot need to wobble your heads.
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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:30 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:Best manager we have ever had, you lot need to wobble your heads.
No he isn't

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:32 pm

boatshed bill wrote:No he isn't
You know when you disagree, you really need to put forward your alternative.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Blyclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:33 pm

With out a shadow of doubt he has to got it a Burnley are to progress.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:36 pm

If we stay up, he stays. If we get relegated, he stays. There's one thing for sure though - he will need a substantial war chest if we stay up.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by beddie » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:37 pm

I'm on the fence with this one. My own view is that we've neve properly replaced Barton, I thought he was such an influential player for the group.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:41 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:You know when you disagree, you really need to put forward your alternative.
Harry Potts, no doubt in my mind.
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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:48 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Harry Potts, no doubt in my mind.
So you think you could have been the same manager in this time, with player power. The money they earn and power they they have.
Two very different times.

However if your going back that far, that kinda tells me it would take that long to find another Dyche.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:53 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:So you think you could have been the same manager in this time, with player power. The money they earn and power they they have.
Two very different times.

However if your going back that far, that kinda tells me it would take that long to find another Dyche.
No, but I seriously believe that Potts was a better manager in his era than Dyche is in his.
Dyche may very likely be my second best though.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:55 pm

Go to be honest here, if we go down from where we are, I'd probably think its time for a change.

Still not 100% sure, but that was a million miles below what we is required

EDIT

Can't decide to be honest and its not a good time to comment on these sorts of threads after a performance like that.
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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:59 pm

no player or manager is bigger than a football club, some of you would be wise to remember that

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:02 pm

Today I felt the anxiety of the crowd transmitted onto the pitch.
Second I thought the players relaxed a bit when they went down to ten men and just thought it would happen that we would win.
Wood was hiding by standing offside all game. Players looked to play a long ball and saw he was offside and could not play that ball and then made bad decisions.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:04 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:no player or manager is bigger than a football club, some of you would be wise to remember that
Curbishley kept Charlton in the premier till the fans got him removed. Look what happened after. Learn from history, it has a habit of repeating itself

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:05 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:Curbishley kept Charlton in the premier till the fans got him removed. Look what happened after. Learn from history, it has a habit of repeating itself
aye, Charlton played decent football though - that's the difference

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:aye, Charlton played decent football though - that's the difference
And ended up in. League one

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:no player or manager is bigger than a football club, some of you would be wise to remember that
Who said they were?

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Royboyclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:08 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Will Dyche Leave us at the end of this season what ever happens,took us as far as possible and I think it needs freshening up,what you reckon Leave or remain
You mean like you did in moving to Scotland ?

Dyche, also, is well past his sell by date.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by MACCA » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:09 pm

I'd rather Garlick left, but to be fair if Mr Dyche did leave I wouldn't lose much sleep as long as we appointed a pro active forward thinking manager.
I'm not going to lie, I would like to see a better brand of football, with maybe 1 or 2 young exciting players playing.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:11 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:You mean like you did in moving to Scotland ?

Dyche, also, is well past his sell by date.
:lol: I've been well past my sell by date for years Roy,life's great up here,the beach is a minutes walk away,and Scotland is beautiful.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Royboyclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:15 pm

Steve1956 wrote::lol: I've been well past my sell by date for years Roy,life's great up here,the beach is a minutes walk away,and Scotland is beautiful.
So you don't miss Burnley Football Club that much ?

But just enough to pass comment ?

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:16 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:So you don't miss Burnley Football Club that much ?

But just enough to pass comment ?
Supported the club all my life mate.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:20 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:So you don't miss Burnley Football Club that much ?

But just enough to pass comment ?
What are you saying? If you don't live in England you can't support your club? :lol:

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Royboyclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:23 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Supported the club all my life mate.
As have we all.

You should have been there today to realise just how disappointing it was.

But you were in Scotland, near the beach.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:29 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:As have we all.

You should have been there today to realise just how disappointing it was.

But you were in Scotland, near the beach.
Please forgive me .....



For having a life :roll:

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:33 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:As have we all.

You should have been there today to realise just how disappointing it was.

But you were in Scotland, near the beach.
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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by summitclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:34 pm

What's happening is sod's law now. The seeds were sewn in the last 2 transfer windows when we were woefully poor. We have no options in cm.

If we go down with a fortune in the bank it will be utter madness.

All we can do us get behind the team and hope.

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:40 pm

I’ll be honest, I’ve just bought a house that’s way out of my price range but if I make cuts I’ll be ok. I’ve decided not to renew next year because I’ve stopped enjoying it, haven’t enjoyed it for a few years... never thought I’d get like this because I lived and breathed Burnley. To be fair this doesn’t really have much to do with Dyche, I just don’t enjoy watching us anymore. I still support us massively and I’ll pick and choose games (probably end up on most) if we go down Dyche is definitely the man though

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Royboyclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:42 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
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Looks glorious, not a bit like Rawtenstall.

Don't see Turf Moor in the distance ?

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Re: Leave or Remain

Post by Long Time Lurker » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:47 pm

REMAIN

If we stay up or if we go down Sean has to stay, because we need somebody to keep Rigg in check for the time being.

Handing over the strategic reins to Rigg, along with whatever patsy of a Head Coach he might choose to bring in, would seal our future fate and allow misfortune the opportunity to dance on our grave - like QPR or Fulham.

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