Dwight McNeil

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:55 pm

...been training with the Full England squad today

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:01 pm

some pics here
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -time.html

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:09 pm

He needs to leave us quickly before Dyche starts teaching him how to play properly.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:11 pm

Love that pic of him leaving Danny Rose on the ground. The look on Rose's face

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:25 pm

I never thought I’d see so many Burnley players connected to the England setup. Southgate obviously keeping track of him.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:31 pm

Absolutely brilliant news today - what a boost for Dwight to be included in the training.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:38 pm

Footage out there of him curling a shot into the top corner in a training match and Southgate shaking his hand and patting him on the back

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:43 pm

Can only do him the world of good on a personal level.
Hopefuly that doesnt now give unrealistic or unreasonable expectations.

Seen plenty of posts online from people criticising the setup for him 'only' being in the under 20s.

Not only is it a great achievement, its also sensible. How many players have failed with the pressure of too much too soon?

Its also a system that has worked for France, Germany and Spain.

thelaughingclaret · Post by **thelaughingclaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:45 pm

Why wasn’t he selected for the first team squad? Or at least the U21s?
I think if he was in Chelsea’s reserve side he’d be in the U21s for sure at least?
How many times has this fantastic Hudson-Odoi played in the premier league this season compared to McNeil? If this Odoi can play at ‘the highest level’ why hasn’t he be doing so consistently?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:48 pm

2 opposite viewpoints there...

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:59 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:2 opposite viewpoints there...

I think he will be a great player but he's certainly not as good as those in front of him yet, give him time and hopefully he will get himself a few full England caps eventually.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:03 pm

houseboy wrote:He needs to leave us quickly before Dyche starts teaching him how to play properly.

Yes, I mean it's not as if Dwight has developed because of Dyche and his coaching team, is it ?

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:17 pm

John Murray , Radio 5's excellent commentator, just spoke on "Sport on 5" and said people "were raving about" Dwight after he caught the eye in trying today. Great to hear !!

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:17 pm

BBC5Live just said (7pm) that England players "raving about Dwight McNeil, stole the show" during full England training session.
We have some talent there, credit to Burnley backroom staff for bringing him on.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:29 pm

thelaughingclaret wrote:Why wasn’t he selected for the first team squad? Or at least the U21s?
I think if he was in Chelsea’s reserve side he’d be in the U21s for sure at least?
How many times has this fantastic Hudson-Odoi played in the premier league this season compared to McNeil? If this Odoi can play at ‘the highest level’ why hasn’t he be doing so consistently?

Can't argue with your point about Chelsea reserves but we are little old Burnley.He'll make it one day but for now the U20s will do.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:34 pm

Don't worry, when he's been sold to a top eight club, he will be in the England set up automatically .

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:37 pm

Thank goodness Hendrick, Taylor and Barnes all failed to perform/nail down the LW role or we may not have seen him at all...

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:38 pm

Exactly, Macca.

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:47 pm

That';s often how football goes though isn't it, especially in the Premier League where managers are (justifiably) risk averse ? I mean Rashford only got his chance under Van Gaal because of injuries to established players, Hudson-Odoi can't get into Chelsea's team and many more examples I'm sure.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:17 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:That';s often how football goes though isn't it, especially in the Premier League where managers are (justifiably) risk averse ? I mean Rashford only got his chance under Van Gaal because of injuries to established players, Hudson-Odoi can't get into Chelsea's team and many more examples I'm sure.

Hudson Adoi is 18 ffs!

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:54 pm

OK ....crikey !!! He's in the England squad though and I think my point is valid isn't it. Not sure I merited a "FFS"

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:59 pm

And McNeil’s only 19.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:00 pm

Isn’t it good to see Mr wastecoat In our stand in a lot of home games so he must have been very impressed with the lad.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:04 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Isn’t it good to see Mr wastecoat In our stand in a lot of home games so he must have been very impressed with the lad.

He has renewed his season ticket m8 so obviously has faith

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:09 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Isn’t it good to see Mr wastecoat In our stand in a lot of home games so he must have been very impressed with the lad.

Home in an hour or so up the A59 through Blubber houses

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:24 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:OK ....crikey !!! He's in the England squad though and I think my point is valid isn't it. Not sure I merited a "FFS"

Apologies. A bit OTT. But point stands. People are expecting world beaters at 18

McNeil should be credited for even making the 20s. And should be allowed to develop.

Southgate has shown he is prepared to give youth a chance. Alomg with players from unfashionable clubs.

Just fear there will be even more expectation and pressure on a young kid.

Course many can handle it. And sure McNeil is capable. But fans need to be patient and cautious. Some of his passes got some real groans from around us in the cfs saturday.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:53 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Apologies. A bit OTT. But point stands. People are expecting world beaters at 18

McNeil should be credited for even making the 20s. And should be allowed to develop.

Southgate has shown he is prepared to give youth a chance. Alomg with players from unfashionable clubs.

Just fear there will be even more expectation and pressure on a young kid.

Course many can handle it. And sure McNeil is capable. But fans need to be patient and cautious. Some of his passes got some real groans from around us in the cfs saturday.

Well what do you expect in that stand, some right loons in there I’m told

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:57 pm

Named in Shearer's Premier League Team of the Week.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:59 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:Home in an hour or so up the A59 through Blubber houses

Only on a good day, can be up to 2 hours often.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:03 pm

dougcollins wrote:Only on a good day, can be up to 2 hours often.

Thats a brisk walk!!!

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:27 pm

Everywhere’s in walking distance if you have time.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:36 am

South West Claret. wrote:Everywhere’s in walking distance if you have time.

The Isle of Wight?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:12 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:Yes, I mean it's not as if Dwight has developed because of Dyche and his coaching team, is it ?

What happens on the field of play is a bit different to training mate. Dyche is a fine manager for us (and I was actually having a laugh anyway) but we all know for a fact that he does sometimes tend to stifle creativity, if you think otherwise you've not been going to Turf Moor to watch your football.

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:19 pm

Nice short clip here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWAW8w1QMic

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:09 am

Played the whole 90 minutes last Friday as England lost to Poland but was subbed on Tuesday night in the 63rd minute straight after Portugal scored the only goal of the game.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:17 am

bfcmik wrote:Played the whole 90 minutes last Friday as England lost to Poland but was subbed on Tuesday night in the 63rd minute straight after Portugal scored the only goal of the game.

But he should be starting for England...

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:45 pm

I don’t think he’s good enough for England. He can’t complete 90 mins for Burnley yet

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