Drugs dont hurt

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:37 pm

And according to one poster on here dont affect anyone other than those who take them

Try telling this poor girls family.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/p ... e-14173141" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:42 pm

OK. So if you're going to drag me into this with your opening post then i'm going to reply.
Unlike smoking, the act of consuming drugs or alcohol does not affect those around them.

Also, **** you for using this story to have a dig, and still be wrong.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:44 pm

Pretty low to use a story like this to try and rile up another poster.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:49 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:OK. So if you're going to drag me into this with your opening post then i'm going to reply.
Unlike smoking, the act of consuming drugs or alcohol does not affect those around them.

Also, **** you for using this story to have a dig, and still be wrong.

Im intrigued as to how this wont affect anyone around her...

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:49 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Im intrigued as to how this wont affect anyone around her...

It’s really not hard to grasp.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:51 pm

What about the people whose houses the druggies burgle, or the people, who get mugged or robbed by druggies, or the people, who get stabbed and die because of drug gangs? Are they not affected?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:54 pm

Vino blanco wrote:What about the people whose houses the druggies burgle, or the people, who get mugged or robbed by druggies, or the people, who get stabbed and die because of drug gangs? Are they not affected?

IT said that the actual act of taking drugs doesn’t harm anyone else. Not that the affects of taking drugs don’t harm anyone else. It’s really not difficult to understand.

SonofPog · Post by **SonofPog** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:56 pm

What a sad story,

its completely changed my opinion, before I was all for the legalisation and sale of class A drugs to 13 year olds.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:57 pm

Anything that tosser Turtle says is hard to understand, Good Night and love you all.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:00 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Pretty low to use a story like this to try and rile up another poster.

Not really. I keep reading in here. Drugs are ok. They dont harm and they dont harm anyone else.

Kids also read this forum. And theres this dangerous consensus that drugs are fine. They dont hurt. They dont kill.

I need more than two hands to count people i know who have died directly or indirectly to drugs. And countless more who have had lives affected.

Yet people constantly promote them as fine.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:00 pm

Rileybobs wrote:It’s really not hard to grasp.

Im either a bit wet behind the ears then, a bit thick or both. So explain it to me. How wont this girl taking drugs affect anyone else?

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:01 pm

Rileybobs wrote: It’s really not difficult to understand.

Correct it isn't.

But it's just the way Barry Chuckle likes to get his 'to me, to you' game going.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:02 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:And according to one poster on here dont affect anyone other than those who take them

Try telling this poor girls family.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/p ... e-14173141" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One things certain though, drugs have nowhere near the same damaging affect that alcohol does!

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:03 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Im either a bit wet behind the ears then, a bit thick or both. So explain it to me. How wont this girl taking drugs affect anyone else?

Because the physical act of her taking drugs didn’t have an affect on anyone else. Her death, which is a consequence of her taking drugs clearly does.

Me eating a McDonalds doesn’t have an affect on anyone else but if eating lots of McDonalds led to a fatal heart attack it would have an impact on other people.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Because the physical act of her taking drugs didn’t have an affect on anyone else. Her death, which is a consequence of her taking drugs clearly does.

Me eating a McDonalds doesn’t have an affect on anyone else but if eating lots of McDonalds led to a fatal heart attack it would have an impact on other people.

Ok. Lets say she didnt die. Or anyone else who takes them doesnt. You dont think that just taking them would still cause emotional stress, worry and upset for her family?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:08 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Ok. Lets say she didnt die. Or anyone else who takes them doesnt. You dont think that just taking them would still cause emotional stress, worry and upset for her family?

I thought I’d simplified it enough. I’ll try again but for the last time. The actual physical act of someone taking drugs doesn’t affect anyone else. Unlike the actual physical act of smoking a cigarette which can harm people within the immediate vicinity.

I’m not sure why IT made this point previously but he is right.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:09 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I thought I’d simplified it enough. I’ll try again but for the last time. The actual physical act of someone taking drugs doesn’t affect anyone else. Unlike the actual physical act of smoking a cigarette which can harm people within the immediate vicinity.

I’m not sure why IT made this point previously but he is right.

Evidently not.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:17 pm

i've had an EEEEEE
Oh what a rush

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:59 pm

Rileybobs wrote:IT said that the actual act of taking drugs doesn’t harm anyone else. Not that the affects of taking drugs don’t harm anyone else. It’s really not difficult to understand.

If you want to not understand it then it becomes really easy to not understand it.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:56 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:If you want to not understand it then it becomes really easy to not understand it.

So nobody was affected. Thats ok than. Glad thats cleared up.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:56 pm

Keep popping the pills kids. Its fine. No danger here...

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:02 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:OK. So if you're going to drag me into this with your opening post then i'm going to reply.
Unlike smoking, the act of consuming drugs or alcohol does not affect those around them.

Also, **** you for using this story to have a dig, and still be wrong.

I think I can smell something

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:03 pm

mdd2 wrote:I think I can smell something

It wasn't me

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:04 pm

mdd2 wrote:I think I can smell something

And its not cigarettes.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:09 pm

I'd be interested to see the debate If alcohol was also acknowledged as a drug.

Which it is:
A substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:09 pm

If Imploding Turtle is indeed a drug addict then that would explain a lot of things.

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:18 pm

Havn't a clue what you are all on about, but what a sad story, RIP Eboney, such a beautiful looking young girl.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:18 pm

CombatClaret wrote:I'd be interested to see the debate If alcohol was also acknowledged as a drug.

Which it is:
A substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.

Nobody disputes that.

But what people overlook when they do this comparison is that alcohol is regulated, manufactured in a controlled and managed environment etc.

Its moderation.

You cant talk about drugs in the same way. Because they are produced, and cut and sold in a way that gives no **** about what goes into it. Selling some **** illlegaly based on weight? Just fill it full of ****.

Nobody will pretend alcohol is good for you. But it is lile anything - fine in moderation.

You cant have drugs in moderation as youve zero idea whats in it in the first place.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:23 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Nobody disputes that.

But what people overlook when they do this comparison is that alcohol is regulated, manufactured in a controlled and managed environment etc.

Its moderation.

You cant talk about drugs in the same way. Because they are produced, and cut and sold in a way that gives no **** about what goes into it. Selling some **** illlegaly based on weight? Just fill it full of ****.

Nobody will pretend alcohol is good for you. But it is lile anything - fine in moderation.

You cant have drugs in moderation as youve zero idea whats in it in the first place.

And if drugs were legalised then they could be equally as "regulated, manufactured in a controlled and managed environment etc."

So what exactly is your objection to drugs being legalised, which is where this bullshit thread really started with your uncalled for dig?

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:25 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: You cant have drugs in moderation as youve zero idea whats in it in the first place.

Many people have and are fully paid up functioning members of society.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:26 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:And if drugs were legalised then they could be equally as "regulated, manufactured in a controlled and managed environment etc."

So what exactly is your objection to drugs being legalised, which is where this bullshit thread really started with your uncalled for dig?

But they arent. And they wont be or shouldnt be.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:29 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:But they arent. And they wont be or shouldnt be.

How can you be this stupid? Are you trolling?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:31 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:How can you be this stupid? Are you trolling?

Im on drugs

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:37 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:But they arent. And they wont be or shouldnt be.

So you say alcohol is a drug, but it's control and regulated.

Cannabis and other substances are also a drugs, but should not be controlled and regulated?

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:41 pm

Cant get to grips with this thread. Been out today, too
much beer and saw this.
A young girl dies whilst taking drugs ? And posters saying...... what exactly ?
I lost a close relative through a overdose of prescription drugs 5 years ago, please tell her mum and dad that no one else is affected, they are still devastated and will never recover. DRUGS DO HURT.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:47 pm

Aclaret wrote:DRUGS DO HURT.

Sorry to hear that. Devestating. And you are absolutely right.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:47 pm

Keep the drug taking to grain and plant.

And if you're previously of sound mind, you'll be okay.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:52 pm

You have a pistol in your hand. You load a bullet, point the pistol at your foot and blow your big toe off. You hop around screaming your head off and bump into a passer-by who falls, bangs their head on the ground and dies. Did the bullet kill the passer-by? No. The passer-by wasn't harmed by the bullet, they were harmed by the behaviour of the person with the gunshot would. The bullet is heroin, cocaine, PCP etc.

Now, you have a grenade instead of a pistol. You pull the pin and drop it. The grenade explodes propelling shrapnel into you and the passer by. That is smoking.

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:57 pm

Bit too close to home is this one, will read with interest.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:58 pm

Spiral wrote: Now, you have a grenade instead of a pistol. You pull the pin and drop it. The grenade explodes propelling shrapnel into you and the passer by. That is smoking.

I think someone has been on the drugs tonight.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:11 pm

Spiral wrote:Now, you have a grenade instead of a pistol. You pull the pin and drop it. The grenade explodes propelling shrapnel into you and the passer by. That is smoking.

Partridge.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:19 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Partridge.

Nonsense. Nothing like Partridge. I forgot to add the model number of the grenade.

It's a M67 frag with a standard timed fuse, if you must know.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:24 pm

I guess that I've been whoooshed then.

Reckoner · Post by **Reckoner** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:45 pm

Alcohol, fags, cruise ships and racists are more of an issue.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:07 am

Rileybobs wrote:IT said that the actual act of taking drugs doesn’t harm anyone else. Not that the affects of taking drugs don’t harm anyone else. It’s really not difficult to understand.

That's not entirely true though is it, drug paraphernalia is a by product of drug taking & if I accidentally injected myself with a syringe a addict carelessly disposed off, it could present me with some health problems as part of the actual process, that's not difficult to comprehend surely.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:23 am

Jakubclaret wrote:That's not entirely true though is it, drug paraphernalia is a by product of drug taking & if I accidentally injected myself with a syringe a addict carelessly disposed off, it could present me with some health problems as part of the actual process, that's not difficult to comprehend surely.

I’m imagining a Mr Bean / Frank Spencer style sequence of events that lead up to you accidentally injecting yourself with someone else’s discarded syringe. In Spiral’s pistol / grenade analogy, you’re picking up the fired bullet, eating it, and suffering lead poisoning.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:39 am

Jakubclaret wrote:That's not entirely true though is it, drug paraphernalia is a by product of drug taking & if I accidentally injected myself with a syringe a addict carelessly disposed off, it could present me with some health problems as part of the actual process, that's not difficult to comprehend surely.

You injecting yourself with someone else’s needle doesn’t directly harm anyone else does it?

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:49 am

Well could you say as a major understatement it affects me directly especially with not being a heroin user. Jabbing yourself with a dirty hypodermic syringe might be your idea of fun it certainly isn’t mine.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:54 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:OK. So if you're going to drag me into this with your opening post then i'm going to reply.
Unlike smoking, the act of consuming drugs or alcohol does not affect those around them.

Also, **** you for using this story to have a dig, and still be wrong.

It can certainly have the potential to, people exist who have unfortunately pricked themselves with a needle, binmen not wearing PPE or young children picking 1 up not knowing any better.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:14 am

Rileybobs wrote:Pretty low to use a story like this to try and rile up another poster.

It's a salutary lesson in how harmful drugs are.

The 'other poster', or we could just call him ImplodingTurtle, is advocating for casual drug use.

I think he's wrong and I think the OP is making a valid point.