7/2 for a Grand National favourite?

[tim_noone]

A cracking run down, rating and pros and cons for each runner in the National

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That's a good effort ...Mullins and Elliot to follow for me on reading the Above.

[Clarets4me]

I read over the weekend that over the years, the Grand National has sent out favourites at both 3/1, and 2/1 back in the mists of time, apparently the former unseated the rider at the 11th, and the 2/1 shot fell at the 1st fence .....the shortest price winner was Pethlyn at 11/4 in 1919 ..

Since the 1st Grand National in 1839, only four horses have ever won consecutive races, Abd-El-Kader ( 1850-51 ), The Colonel ( 1869-70 ), Reynoldstown ( 1935-36 ), and the great Red Rum ( 1973-74 ). For some younger posters, and others, Red Rum ran 5 times between 1973-77, finishing 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd and 1st respectively ....

Best of luck with your selections, one and all, and let's hope 40 horses and jockeys return home safely on Saturday ...

[scouseclaret]

The favourite has won 5 times since 1994.

No outright favourite has won since Hedgehunter in 2005 ( 2 joint favs have at 7s and 10s respectively). 4/1 is totally unbackable in the National.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Last years Scottish National winner Joe Farrell is today's market mover for The National. 50s > 20s (20s in places)

However there has been no Welsh trained Grand National winner for around a century I think

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

That’s because Hugh Taylor has backed it today

[Royboyclaret]

Last years Scottish National winner Joe Farrell is today's market mover for The National. 50s > 20s (20s in places)

However there has been no Welsh trained Grand National winner for around a century I think

Appears to have been some serious money this morning for Joe Farrell, last years Scottish National winner, but surely if that horse is fancied then the third in that race, Trevor Hemmings' Vintage Clouds must have a great chance.

Vintage Clouds has a weight pull of 4lbs for a 4 length beating in that race so must come into the calculations.

[Quickenthetempo]

Tiger Roll edged out to 4/1 and expected to be 5/1 in the morning before getting backed into 7/2 for the race.

I'm taking quite a shine to last year's runner up Pleasant Company. Great finish to the race last year. Knows the fences and got round easy. A nice 16/1 shot.

[Carnsmerry12]

I rarely back a horse in the National but will have some money on Walk in the Mill.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Its not a lottery they said. He wont hit a fence they said. Well he did. But fair play. Great call.

[tim_noone]

Won it like a good un!

[theroyaldyche]

Cleaned up

[tim_noone]

Gordon Elliot estatic ! You dont often see trainers that animated ..well done that man!

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Of course it's a lottery
Tips 1st & 3rd lol

[CoolClaret]

What an incredible horse!

Him and Altior are like the Ronaldo/Messi of horse racing!

[THEWELLERNUT70]

You see I'll never tip horses up until it comes to the National. That's when things become a bit nerdy where I'm concerned. Its something that I do tend to study in depth and follow potential runners in the National throughout the season, hence the backing of Rathvinden at a big price weeks ago.

[Claretuk]

I agree, it will either be pulled up or fall as it had a hard race @ Cheltenham n the national is coming to soon for it to go in again.

Ok I will hold my hands up doh! That was a fantastic performance n fully deserved, let's hope the tiger can return next year to complete the treble!

[Bordeauxclaret]

Can’t believe everyone didn’t pick the winner!!

[Burnleyareback2]

had a good day

[Damo]

Absolutely ridiculous odds for such a race.. Anybody taking 7/2 is throwing their money away as it won't win.. You heard it here first ..Don't waste your money on it..

Cheers. Sons crying

[Carnsmerry12]

An exciting race and a very worthy winner. I thought Walk in the Mill would run a big race and he might be one for the future.

[AlargeClaret]

A good race all in all though the fav was totally in control . The fences provide only a cursory challenge these days having being so heavily shortened /thinned/drops removed etc ( try running 40 horses 4.4m round Cheltenham and see how many make it) Still a superb sporting spectacle though .

[Goobs]

A good race all in all though the fav was totally in control . The fences provide only a cursory challenge these days having being so heavily shortened /thinned/drops removed etc ( try running 40 horses 4.4m round Cheltenham and see how many make it) Still a superb sporting spectacle though .

True the National isn't what it was but then neither is the fatality rate from it which is great.

[AlargeClaret]

True the National isn't what it was but then neither is the fatality rate from it which is great.

That’s a very fair point , nothing can be so sickening in racing than the screens going up around a crumpled horse . Would be nice if they’d perhaps left Beechers though as an ultimate type fence .

[Quickenthetempo]

An excellent ride and you could see the class oozing out at the end when most were struggling.

Let's hope Tiger Roll has at least another season and shot at the National instead of the usual retire early for studding.

[TVC15]

An excellent ride and you could see the class oozing out at the end when most were struggling.

Let's hope Tiger Roll has at least another season and shot at the National instead of the usual retire early for studding.

Not many jump horses retire early for studding - that’s a flat horse thing.
As long as Tiger Roll stays fit and healthy he’ll be back next year. The way he won at Cheltenham and yesterday was incredible - he was travelling at a completely different speed to the other horses...he was cantering and keeping up with the others who were already hard at work. It was only the last 300 yards or so that he actually looked like he was trying yesterday.
Hope he is fit next year as he is a very special horse. Not many horses have won at all distances between 2 and 4 miles and if he can avoid falling at the Grand National next year (which is hard to do and he made a couple of mistakes yesterday) it’s hard to see him getting beaten.

[icu81b4]

That’s a very fair point , nothing can be so sickening in racing than the screens going up around a crumpled horse . Would be nice if they’d perhaps left Beechers though as an ultimate type fence .

It was heartbreaking to see a horse (up for review) writhing in agony after being brought down at the first, I can't understand why anyone who loves horses would risk them in this fashion. .... Well greed I guess!

[THEWELLERNUT70]

1/ Chase runs at least 10

2/ Age 8 to 11

3/ Season Runs 3 or more

4/ Days since last run 20-60

5/ 3m chase wins at least 1

6/ Weight up to 11st 6lb

7/ Season Fall no more than 1

8/ Career Fall no more than 2

9/ Biggest Chase win over 30k

The stats came up trumps again in the "lottery"

Tiger Roll meeting all 9 trends

[tim_noone]

It was heartbreaking to see a horse (up for review) writhing in agony after being brought down at the first, I can't understand why anyone who loves horses would risk them in this fashion. .... Well greed I guess!

I don't think it is tbh...in most sport there's an element of risk and fatalities unfortunately happen.been more than a few in the great north run and London marathon both big fund raising events. I'm sure the majority of racehorses have excellent care and decent Lives.

[LifeafterRobbie]

I think he might struggle if sent to stud

[icu81b4]

I think he might struggle if sent to stud

Unfortunately the only pedigree gained from this horse is dog food.

[dsr]

It was heartbreaking to see a horse (up for review) writhing in agony after being brought down at the first, I can't understand why anyone who loves horses would risk them in this fashion. .... Well greed I guess!

Not greed. Horse lovers don't just love horses because they look pretty - if so, they could be stuffed and kept in the hall. Horses are for galloping, jumping, riding, racing, having fun with. And if some of them die in the process - well, so do some humans when doing what humans enjoy. Which is better for a horse - a short life but a happy one? Or a life standing in a field watching the grass grow, except in winter when there isn't any grass?

But whatever else people go racing for, it isn't to make money!

[dsr]

An excellent ride and you could see the class oozing out at the end when most were struggling.

Let's hope Tiger Roll has at least another season and shot at the National instead of the usual retire early for studding.

There's a very powerful reason why "entire" horses don't like brushing through the fences. Whatever else Tiger Roll may do when he retires, it won't involve fatherhood.

[Quickenthetempo]

O' Leary is still saying it's not likely he will go for a third go at the National as he fears for his safety carrying top weight. That the Cross Country is the main aim again next year.

The 65k prize money is Cheltenham's 2nd lowest of the meeting and the National is 571k.

I hope he is just playing games with the handicapper as such a classy horse should be in the biggest and best races.

Maybe test him out in the Gold cup instead of a nothing race?

[Dyched]

Not greed. Horse lovers don't just love horses because they look pretty - if so, they could be stuffed and kept in the hall. Horses are for galloping, jumping, riding, racing, having fun with. And if some of them die in the process - well, so do some humans when doing what humans enjoy. Which is better for a horse - a short life but a happy one? Or a life standing in a field watching the grass grow, except in winter when there isn't any grass?

But whatever else people go racing for, it isn't to make money!

These horses won’t even have a life in the first place without racing. Nevermind standing about eating hrass all day.

[TVC15]

O' Leary is still saying it's not likely he will go for a third go at the National as he fears for his safety carrying top weight. That the Cross Country is the main aim again next year.

The 65k prize money is Cheltenham's 2nd lowest of the meeting and the National is 571k.

I hope he is just playing games with the handicapper as such a classy horse should be in the biggest and best races.

Maybe test him out in the Gold cup instead of a nothing race?

The fact O ‘Leary is saying it won’t happen makes it even more likely to happen in my book.
The guy is a born liar and his ego is way too big to resist the opportunity to go down in the history books.