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Re: England

Postby joey13 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:10 pm

Blackrod wrote:Awful from Keane. Players shouldn’t be getting caps before club starts. Just wrong.

What like Hudson-Odoi

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Re: England

Postby Rileybobs » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:13 pm

joey13 wrote:Why ? The lads been outstanding


I wouldn’t go as far as outstanding. He’s been decent. Considering he doesn’t get a game for his club it has been a good debut, but not outstanding.

And I don’t need the commentator to big up every average thing he does as something special.
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Re: England

Postby Funkydrummer » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:16 pm

Kane is useless, he's not been able to get offside once - not once !!!

Needs to speak to Wood, he's got it off to a fine art now.
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Re: England

Postby joey13 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:18 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I wouldn’t go as far as outstanding. He’s been decent. Considering he doesn’t get a game for his club it has been a good debut, but not outstanding.

And I don’t need the commentator to big up every average thing he does as something special.

I take it you not watching his movement off the ball , something England’s been crying out for , for years , he’s been outstanding

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Re: England

Postby Rileybobs » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:20 pm

joey13 wrote:I take it you not watching his movement off the ball , something England’s been crying out for , for years , he’s been outstanding


He’s given the ball away, a lot. Caught out of position defensively on a few occasions. He’s been decent. If you think he’s been outstanding I’d question how low you’re setting the bar.

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Re: England

Postby Bosscat » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:21 pm

Rileybobs wrote:He’s given the ball away, a lot. Caught out of position defensively on a few occasions. He’s been decent. If you think he’s been outstanding I’d question how low you’re setting the bar.

About 8ft :D

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Re: England

Postby FactualFrank » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:22 pm

What a great ball through.

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Re: England

Postby tim_noone » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:22 pm

Very silly sterling

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Re: England

Postby Rileybobs » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:22 pm

Lovely goal

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Re: England

Postby Rileybobs » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:23 pm

Sterling makes some fantastic runs.

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Re: England

Postby Buxtonclaret » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:23 pm

Great goal. 8-)

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Re: England

Postby joey13 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:27 pm

Rileybobs wrote:He’s given the ball away, a lot. Caught out of position defensively on a few occasions. He’s been decent. If you think he’s been outstanding I’d question how low you’re setting the bar.

I’m taking it you know little about football suggesting he’s been other than outstanding along with a few others
Remember the dross served up by Hodgson and Allardyce

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Re: England

Postby BurnleyFC » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:31 pm

Still wasn’t convinced by Southgate, even after the World Cup, but this is really impressive.

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Re: England

Postby Rileybobs » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:31 pm

joey13 wrote:I’m taking it you know little about football suggesting he’s been other than outstanding along with a few others
Remember the dross served up by Hodgson and Allardyce


There is some middle ground between the performances some of the players turned out during Hodgson’s tenure and outstanding. And Allardyce only took charge for one game.

If you think Hudson-Odoi has been outstanding that’s fine, I don’t. He’s probably been slightly above average and considering it’s his debut I’d stretch as far as good. But definitely not outstanding.

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Re: England

Postby nyclaret » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:32 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I wish this commentator would stop banging on about Hudson-Odoi.

Commentators tend to mention the players who have had a very good game?
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Re: England

Postby Spijed » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:33 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:Still wasn’t convinced by Southgate, even after the World Cup, but this is really impressive.


Going forward they look impressive. Defending is very poor at times though.

They'll have to do a lot better against more accomplished sides next summer.

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Re: England

Postby expoultryboy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:34 pm

Still think alli is overrated
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Re: England

Postby nyclaret » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:37 pm

expoultryboy wrote:Still think alli is overrated

He may not have set the world alight for England (he's still only 22) but you can't really argue against his Premier League stats for a midfielder.

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Re: England

Postby Buxtonclaret » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:39 pm

Well done again!
All of a sudden, England seem to have loads of top-end young players.
You'd think they can only get better.
Things really are looking good.
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Re: England

Postby jrgbfc » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:45 pm

Not sure why Rose played tbh unless Chilwell has a knock.
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Re: England

Postby BOYSIE31 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:02 pm

Some great talent going forward and Odoi was outstanding and sterling just seems to get better and better

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Re: England

Postby Joe14 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:24 pm

Looks promising.......... till the big tournament comes up and we bottle it :roll:

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Re: England

Postby Vino blanco » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:01 pm

We certainly look good going forward and you can't argue with ten goals in two games. However, it will be interesting to see how we perform against better attacking teams, who retain the ball, like Spain etc. I'm not sure if that back four/five is competent enough.

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Re: England

Postby Tall Paul » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:10 pm

Vino blanco wrote:We certainly look good going forward and you can't argue with ten goals in two games. However, it will be interesting to see how we perform against better attacking teams, who retain the ball, like Spain etc. I'm not sure if that back four/five is competent enough.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45780621

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Re: England

Postby Tricky Trevor » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:20 pm

Rileybobs wrote:And Walker is almost as poor defensively.

Walker is our best defensive RB but he had no help from C H-O and should have played his position more. We had enough forwards bombing on we needed him at the back.

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Re: England

Postby CBT » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 pm

Lets be honest
England for the first time in over 20 years are worth Watching
Bravo to Southgate he looks a boring sod but we're really good to watch
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Re: England

Postby RVclaret » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:33 am

Vino blanco wrote:We certainly look good going forward and you can't argue with ten goals in two games. However, it will be interesting to see how we perform against better attacking teams, who retain the ball, like Spain etc. I'm not sure if that back four/five is competent enough.

Hahaha we literally just beat Spain on their own park.

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Re: England

Postby houseboy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:21 am

I like Southgate, he picks youngsters and doesn't seem to have 'favourites'. We are playing attacking stuff and certainly look great going forward. We had a decent World Cup and if this is anything to go by then we could have a good Euros. It's early days but the way things are shaping up Southgate could possibly wind up being one of the best managers we've ever had (and he's still young himself). Playing a player that hasn't even played a league game shows that he is willing to take risks and that is just what we need (and it seems to have paid off). Southgate is definitely the mand for the job.
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Re: England

Postby FactualFrank » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:22 am

I don't think Hudson-Odoi was outstanding. He looked pretty average on the right (didn't try to take his man on enough), and then had a good run at the defence which led to the goal when he was switched over. He had a decent game though, but wouldn't surprise me if he moved back to the under 21s for a while.

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Re: England

Postby FactualFrank » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:24 am

CBT wrote:Lets be honest
England for the first time in over 20 years are worth Watching
Bravo to Southgate he looks a boring sod but we're really good to watch


Under Southgate is the best England have played since before Italia 90 - as I don't remember the World Cup in 86. We didn't play well enroute to the semi-finals in 1990, so I'd say it's the best we've been since at least 1986. So at least 32-33 years. It's been a while waiting!
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Re: England

Postby taio » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:28 am

Euro 96 was ace.
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Re: England

Postby Imploding Turtle » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:40 am

taio wrote:Euro 96 was ace.



It was the first footie tournament i remember vividly. I was obviously gutted that Scotland went out on goal difference (because of you ***** letting the Dutch have a goal) but i was genuinely gutted for England too. That extra time v Germany is probably the most exciting 30 minutes of football I've ever seen.
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Re: England

Postby tiger76 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:43 am

taio wrote:Euro 96 was ace.


Yeah! on home soil though,and Euro 96 had some stinkers,the Switzerland and Scotland games weren't great if Scotland had scored that penalty,it could have been squeaky bum time against the Dutch,the Spanish game was a backs to the wall exercise,and Seaman produced a masterclass in the shoot-out,England played well in the SF and should have progressed but for missed chances.

Euro 96 in hindsight was the one that got away,ditto Russia 2018,the signs are promising under GS,i thought last night could be tricky especially when they opened the scoring but what an emphatic response.

P.S i hope the book is thrown at Montenegro regarding the racial abuse.

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Re: England

Postby Spijed » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:47 am

As has been said, it's just a shame we don't have defenders as good as the likes of John Terry, Rio Ferdinand & Ashley Cole.

Then we really would be one of the favourites to win the Euro's and the World Cup.

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Re: England

Postby box_of_frogs » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:59 am

Attack with pace, and score more than they do in a Kevin Keegan managing Newcastle mould!


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