Tramp etiquette.

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Tramp etiquette.

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:19 am

Im just wondering if this is a correct thing to do when people are begging in the shopping centre's ect, sometimes i spare a few loose coins & sometimes rush past avoiding eye contact if cash strapped. What do other people do regarding beggars?

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:25 am

Jakubclaret wrote:Im just wondering if this is a correct thing to do when people are begging in the shopping centre's ect, sometimes i spare a few loose coins & sometimes rush past avoiding eye contact if cash strapped. What do other people do regarding beggars?
Give, or don't. Either is fine. No one cares. Don't worry.
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Post by _Soclaretes_ » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:38 am

Jakubclaret wrote:Im just wondering if this is a correct thing to do when people are begging in the shopping centre's ect, sometimes i spare a few loose coins & sometimes rush past avoiding eye contact if cash strapped. What do other people do regarding beggars?
Sometimes buy them a brew and a pasty from Gregg's. Usually received gratefully, especially in winter.
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Post by Damo » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:29 am

The correct thing to do, is log into Facebook and start live streaming. Buy said person something from Gregg's or subway (dont forget to tell your audience that this is more helpful than giving them money that they will just spend on alcohol or drugs) and get your snotty nosed kid to hand it to the homeless person whilest looking into the camera
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Post by pushpinpussy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:19 am

There are 2 reasons I don't give money to homeless people.
1. They want the money to buy drugs.
2. I want the money to buy drugs.
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Post by Longsidebogs » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:31 am

Most in Burnley are not homeless. Probably make a good amount of money for their particular habit. I have been fooled in the past but no more! I usually buy food, but the last time I bought a hot pie and a coffee on a cold day, the response I received from the recipient was “cheers mate, is it meat and potato”?

I don’t doubt there are deserving cases, but haven’t seen any locally. Manchester seems overwhelmed with genuine homeless people. All appear to have a habit, so until that is addressed there is little hope. Give clothes and food probably best option.

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Post by Claretmatt4 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:36 am

Manchester has a real issue with it. I must see over ten on my 20 min walk through the town centre each morning.

I'll always stop and say I don't have any change (usually true) rather than ignore them. I have given food in the past but should do it more often.

I think ignoring them is rude but can understand why people do it.

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:52 am

And the inevitable, depressing reply regarding the homeless in Burnley pops up - albeit a little later than usual - at #6

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Post by harpers_perm » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:59 am

About 6 months ago I was walking through Preston town centre. I was going home from the train station when I nipped into Tesco for a bottle of red.

When entering I passed a scruff outside with a maingy old dog so on the way out did my morale duty and gave him £1, he said ‘I’m not a f***cking tramp you pr1ck, my wife’s inside’, true story.

I work in Manchester and from Salford Central to my office 300 yards away I pass 3 or 4 homeless folk each time I’m there.
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Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:08 am

I mean don't refer to them as tramps that's one etiquette. The rest is up to you.
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Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:12 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:I mean don't refer to them as tramps that's one etiquette. The rest is up to you.
Would you prefer the American Argo of ‘Bum’? It’s takin from the German ‘Bumler’ which translates equivalently to ‘Loafer’.

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Post by Steve1956 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:12 am

harpers_perm wrote:About 6 months ago I was walking through Preston town centre. I was going home from the train station when I nipped into Tesco for a bottle of red.

When entering I passed a scruff outside with a maingy old dog so on the way out did my morale duty and gave him £1, he said ‘I’m not a f***cking tramp you pr1ck, my wife’s inside’, true story.

I work in Manchester and from Salford Central to my office 300 yards away I pass 3 or 4 homeless folk each time I’m there.
:lol:

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Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:15 am

Vast majority,certianly in Manchester are just junkies so unless your're offering them a couple of crack rocks or some spice not much point. They're neevr short on food though as everyone gives em half eaten burgers pasties etc etc

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Post by Inchy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:18 am

If they have a dog I tend to shoot it in the head. It’s better than giving them a quid because caring for a dog cost more than that

If they look hungry I buy a disposable bbq and tell them to lob the dog on it
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Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:19 am

Inchy wrote:If they have a dog I tend to shoot it in the head. It’s better than giving them a quid because caring for a dog cost more than that
You carry a gun, day to day?

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Post by Inchy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:20 am

Lord Beamish wrote:You carry a gun, day to day?

High calibre nerf gun
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Post by Inchy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:21 am

Error

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Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:26 am

Inchy wrote:High calibre nerf gun
That’s not going to kill a dog, is it? I’m beginning to think that you don’t really kill their dogs, as a matter of course. I think you were just making a facetious remark. I just can’t figure out why?

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:26 am

harpers_perm wrote: When entering I passed a scruff outside with a maingy old dog so on the way out did my morale duty and gave him £1, he said ‘I’m not a f***cking tramp you pr1ck, my wife’s inside’, true story.
I might start doing that just for the craic.

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Post by Blackrod » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:26 am

You could give them some flour or icing sugar wrapped in cellophane as an alternative gift.

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Post by CaptJohn » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:55 am

My wife always gives to the lad on the underpass to the bus station after the match. He gets a quid for the total number of goals scored in the match.

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Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:05 am

A well known Burnley fan maybe 15 yrs back went from normal regular guy to tramp living on the streets in Manchester and I think he got himself back to normality eventually . His name escapes me but possibly something like “ Ant” or Enty?

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Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:21 am

Giving or not giving, it's entirely up to you, but I suspect that urinating all over them whilst they are sleeping is probably poor etiquette tbh.

Actually, I know full well in most cases it's simply funding some sort of habit and I also agree that most if not all those around Burnley are not genuinely homeless, but for a few years now I've been in the habit of giving a couple of quid if I see one on my walk to the Turf from town, as I did it once and I convinced myself it brought us good luck! If I don't see any before I'm on the match, I always think it's going to be bad day!! (Yeah,weird innit!?)

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Post by dsr » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:48 pm

If one person in a hundred gives them a couple of quid before/after the match, that's £4,000 being shared out among the sitters. No wonder they're congregating at the Turf!
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Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:01 pm

dsr wrote:If one person in a hundred gives them a couple of quid before/after the match, that's £4,000 being shared out among the sitters. No wonder they're congregating at the Turf!

Good for them, the smart, enterprising individuals that they are.

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Post by tim_noone » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:05 pm

Longsidebogs wrote:Most in Burnley are not homeless. Probably make a good amount of money for their particular habit. I have been fooled in the past but no more! I usually buy food, but the last time I bought a hot pie and a coffee on a cold day, the response I received from the recipient was “cheers mate, is it meat and potato”?

I don’t doubt there are deserving cases, but haven’t seen any locally. Manchester seems overwhelmed with genuine homeless people. All appear to have a habit, so until that is addressed there is little hope. Give clothes and food probably best option.
You obviously wanted him to "Bow" instead of saying Thank you? My preference would be meat n potato preferably Hafners.cheers mate!

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Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:18 pm

dsr wrote:If one person in a hundred gives them a couple of quid before/after the match, that's £4,000 being shared out among the sitters. No wonder they're congregating at the Turf!
Crumbs, I never thought of it in those terms!! So the thing is, should I now stop giving to them and risk relegation??? :roll:

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Post by paulus the woodgnome » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:38 pm

harpers_perm wrote:When entering I passed a scruff outside with a maingy old dog so on the way out did my morale duty and gave him £1, he said ‘I’m not a f***cking tramp you pr1ck, my wife’s inside’, true story.
Was he wearing a Blackburn shirt?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:41 pm

I'll give money to those selling the Big Issue, that's it for me.

After becoming away of numerous 'homeless' people going home at the end of the day I stopped giving away my loose change.

Same with a couple near to me who moved back to sleeping on the street from a house they'd been given via social, because they preferred it on the street, they'll get a fair amount of food from people in my town, but not so much money anymore.

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Post by aggi » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:24 pm

dsr wrote:If one person in a hundred gives them a couple of quid before/after the match, that's £4,000 being shared out among the sitters. No wonder they're congregating at the Turf!
Only if we're getting crowds of 200,000.

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Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:36 pm

dsr wrote:If one person in a hundred gives them a couple of quid before/after the match, that's £4,000 being shared out among the sitters. No wonder they're congregating at the Turf!
Did you study Math alongside Diane Abbott :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by dsr » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:41 pm

aggi wrote:Only if we're getting crowds of 200,000.
:roll: I usually use a calculator for factors of 10. As Randolph Churchill (Chancellor of the Exchquer) once pointed out, "I never could make out what those damned dots meant".

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Post by Pstotto » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:48 pm

Perhaps you should consult the I-Ching. It was developed for the ancient Chinese court regarding diplomatic decisions for the emperor and his entourage.

It COULD be Charles Saatchi dressed as a tramp with a sack of coca-colas tins under his sleeping bag and with a special £50,000 gold ring-pull on one of them.

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Post by exilecanada » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:51 pm

I misread the title, I thought it was “Trump etiquette”………which is an oxymoron. :lol:

But seriously folks……There’s an unkempt character often lurking outside my local booze store asking for loose change from store patrons. One day I spotted him walk around the corner and get into a taxi, I guess he’d finished his ‘shift’. :D

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Post by Pstotto » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:53 pm

I did too. I was going to write HELL YEAH but on closer inspection of the screen....

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Post by Longsidebogs » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:24 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:And the inevitable, depressing reply regarding the homeless in Burnley pops up - albeit a little later than usual - at #6
Not sure what you are talking about mate. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

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Post by Longsidebogs » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:29 pm

tim_noone wrote:You obviously wanted him to "Bow" instead of saying Thank you? My preference would be meat n potato preferably Hafners.cheers mate!
You miss the point completely I’m afraid. Never mind....I can’t be arsed explaining. Just think about it, if that’s possible?

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Post by tarkys_ears » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:40 pm

Why, I thrash them with my umbrella whilst shouting "be gone peasant!"

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Post by theroyaldyche » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:46 pm

Different people
Same.spots
Make a killing

Dont give em a tap

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Post by tim_noone » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:41 pm

Longsidebogs wrote:You miss the point completely I’m afraid. Never mind....I can’t be arsed explaining. Just think about it, if that’s possible?
It would have been better to explain....But thanks all the same.

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Post by Bfcboyo » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:07 pm

dsr wrote:If one person in a hundred gives them a couple of quid before/after the match, that's £4,000 being shared out among the sitters. No wonder they're congregating at the Turf!
These are not the homeless you fool. They are well travelled pilgrims wanting to visit their Mecca. The birthplace of football. Thet sit outside glum leaving the game early dissapointed.

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Post by Stayingup » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:20 pm

As normal saw a few today in Manchester
All young enough to work. One said Any Change? I said yes its going to snow next week. Seriously the streets of the City centre are littered with them. We have a serious drug epidemic in our country. Blame Brexit.

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