Why did Nuno take off Traore

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:59 pm

He was running us ragged, didnt look tired or injure, I'm glad he did of course but weird decision and I think it cost them

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:01 pm

beddie wrote:He was running us ragged, didnt look tired or injure, I'm glad he did of course but weird decision and I think it cost them

Think he may have picked up an injury. He was squatting and stretching his hamstrings not long before he was subbed.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:01 pm

beddie wrote:He was running us ragged, didnt look tired or injure, I'm glad he did of course but weird decision and I think it cost them

How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:02 pm

Merson will tell you why

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... s-struggle

Northerner · Post by **Northerner** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:03 pm

He's rapid but doesn't have an end product. He was the same at Boro.
Seems dangerous but yet to see him make a real impact yet.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?

Today or in his career?

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:06 pm

Ran us ragged at times but final delivery was (thankfully) poor.

Probably why he rarely starts for them.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:06 pm

I bet Charlie Taylor was glad to see the back of him, though for all his speed and trickery Wolves didn't trouble us too much.
8 shots but only one on target and even that was a routine save for Tom.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:06 pm

Well there were the crosses where Tarka had to make last ditch challenges

There was the one where Mee did the same

There was the one that needed heroics from Taylor

He was far and away their best player and ran Taylor ragged.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:08 pm

I thought his crossing was ok today. Wasn’t as though he was hitting the first man, massively over-hitting it or shanking them out of play. If anything, they lacked a decent centre forward to capitalise.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?

So you weren't worried then every time he got the ball?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:09 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Merson will tell you why
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... s-struggle

Merson is absolutely spot on with Traore

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:10 pm

beddie wrote:So you weren't worried then every time he got the ball?

Same at Middlesbrough against us two seasons ago, so little comes from him. Of course you are concerned when a team has a winger with pace but he can't deliver a ball. He's got lightening pace and if he didn't he'd be playing his football a long way from the Premier League.

ClaretRock · Post by **ClaretRock** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:11 pm

He was gassed. Knew he wasn't able to last 90mims glad to see him start as you don't want to see him come on with 20mins to go.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?

He wqs a threat all day. Quick. Direct. And constantly stretched the play.

However his delivery is and always has been his downfall.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Merson is absolutely spot on with Traore

and McNeil

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:13 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:I bet Charlie Taylor was glad to see the back of him, though for all his speed and trickery Wolves didn't trouble us too much.
8 shots but only one on target and even that was a routine save for Tom.

Same as Molineux when people were raving about them.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:15 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Same at Middlesbrough against us two seasons ago, so little comes from him. Of course you are concerned when a team has a winger with pace but he can't deliver a ball. He's got lightening pace and if he didn't he'd be playing his football a long way from the Premier League.

But he has got pace? Thats like saying if wood couldnt score...

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:15 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:and McNeil

and Burnley.

Merson was pretty much spot on with all points with what he said. Fair play.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:16 pm

FactualFrank wrote:and Burnley.

Merson was pretty much spot on with all points with what he said. Fair play.

Merson says some ridiculous things at times but he was absolutely spot on with that.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?

My thoughts exactly. His lack of goals or assists must make him one of the most over-rated players in the PL. Handy in a relay squad though.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:17 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:But he has got pace?

What I was trying to say was that's just about the only reason he's anywhere near the Premier League.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:17 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Merson will tell you why
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... s-struggle

Some impressive analysis from Merson there for once on both Traore and McNeil.

He's right about Traore seemingly not bother to practice his crossing because he is not developing as a player despite his pace and power

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:17 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Think he may have picked up an injury. He was squatting and stretching his hamstrings not long before he was subbed.

He was. But he was STILL tagging us down that side. Bizarre sub imo.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:20 pm

Pace is all he has, I'd be happy if we had to play against him every week.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote:What I was trying to say was that's just about the only reason he's anywhere near the Premier League.

Wasn't Dyche keen on signing him before Wolves stepped in.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Merson is absolutely spot on with Traore

I agree. If he had the final ball, he wouldn’t be playing for wolves. His pace is scary tho. Left Taylor (who had a good game really) for dead sooooo many times it was unreal.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:41 pm

Because he was dog sh1t?

His pace got him into all the right areas and positions but can't remember a single good ball or correct option taken.

The one he pulled back to Jack Cork ( I think ) at 1-0, was game changing.
cheers

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:56 pm

beddie wrote:He was running us ragged, didnt look tired or injure, I'm glad he did of course but weird decision and I think it cost them

He ran that was about it. Not the greatest footballing brain!

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:56 pm

He played 3 perfect crosses in the first half which Wood would have gobbled up at the other end. I was relieved when he went off.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:18 pm

He has absolutely no footballing brain, that's why he came off. He's strong and can run, but he has no end product.

McNeil is a far better player.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:28 pm

Didn’t think his end product was all too bad to be honest. He hung up a few decent crosses but thankfully Jimenez wasn’t on the pitch to capitalise. Taylor dealt with him very well.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:33 pm

boyyanno wrote:He has absolutely no footballing brain, that's why he came off. He's strong and can run, but he has no end product.

McNeil is a far better player.

"Absolutely no footballing Brain" I've Heard everything on here now...

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:36 pm

Because Nuno is a tactical genius, whilst Dyche, as everyone on here knows, is a tactical Pygmy!

Seriously, his delivery might not be all that, but Charlie Taylor’s day got a whole lot easier when he went off. In fact, Wolves never really caused us any more problems after the substitutions.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:37 pm

I’d have him over Lennon, any day of the week.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:40 pm

FCBurnley wrote:He played 3 perfect crosses in the first half which Wood would have gobbled up at the other end. I was relieved when he went off.

As were Lots of others.....

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:42 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Same as Molineux when people were raving about them.

Eh?

They absolutely battered us at the custard bowl. The most one sided 1-0 I have seen in many a year. Had it not been for Hart, could’ve been double figures.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:47 pm

Great pace but can't cross a ball - needs to go away and improve that and he would be unplayable

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:49 pm

bobinho wrote:Eh?

They absolutely battered us at the custard bowl. The most one sided 1-0 I have seen in many a year. Had it not been for Hart, could’ve been double figures.

I was thinking the same. History though - we did enough to win today.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:53 pm

I would definitely have him here. But does remind me of a greyhounf with a baloon!

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:00 pm

It’s looks a strange one but a pattern we’ve seen with most managers he’s played under.

Ultimately, whilst he was running us ragged, the crosses into the box were poor in quality. The idea was clearly Doherty and Jimenez on, and put quality deliveries in.

We allowed space on the flanks (as we always do when defending deep), so Traore wasn’t necessarily needed to work the space for a cross. From Nuno’s perspective, I believe he wanted crosses planted on the head of the attacker, instead of just skinning the full back again.

Claretuk · Post by **Claretuk** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:07 pm

ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?

Nice cast, please can you take the claret specs off in future..

keith1879 · Post by **keith1879** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:14 pm

I was strongly reminded of a game against Stockport in the 90s when Tony Hancock was subbed off by them. Everyone was saying how relieved they were ....I was thinking that he had achieved nothing and we might find things getting more difficult.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:17 pm

Burnley fans love a runner

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:20 pm

Taylor and McNeil didn't give him a sniff

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:20 pm

Claretuk wrote:Nice cast, please can you take the claret specs off in future..

He was very average

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:29 pm

Not sure why he was taken off, but I for one was mighty relieved when he was. If we’d had lost that game I can imagine the stick Taylor would be getting on here tonight. The lack of quality of his crosses was our fortune, but let’s be frank, Taylor never got anywhere near him and I am a big fan of the lad.

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:31 pm

He beat our defence almost every time, and put plenty of crosses in, I mentioned it on the match day thread and was pleased he was subbed.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:33 pm

Work on his end product and he will be some player

corporal jones · Post by **corporal jones** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:07 pm

ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?

What? Are you serious? Which game were you watching? He beat Taylor every time and put in good crosses. The fact that no one could get on the end was just good fortune for us.